David Garrett is Jason Young - Relative of Ray Young

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Chempop

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Yes, but victims usually aren't $40,000-$60,000(?) ahead. So what is he taking him to court over exactly? FFS...
 
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TonK

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You are yourself a victim then in this fraud scheme he perpetrated. You don't need any of the buyers to step forward then. Have you considered taking criminal or civil action yourself? There are plenty of lawyers on this site (not me, as I stated before Charlie/Xander :) ) that could probably help and advise you through the process. I think this would be the best method of exonerating yourself and probably the most satisfactory.

I should mention that in civil court, you don't need to be 100% sure, just 51% and you've at least now discovered his actual identity.

Yes, I have my family lawyer retained. But the country border is protecting him.

He can simply choose not to show up.

With help from other members, we can use our own court system.

If anyone else is down, let me know. David is easily scared and a pussy. When Chamane asked for a refund, David said he was going to get his dad.
 

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I can't answer that and be 100% certain, but he covered his name and went through a lot to cover his tracks.

But yes, I believe this is a scam.

I'd highly encourage you to see this matter through. As you've stated that you believe Jason Young has perpetrated a scam by misrepresenting himself and hiding the fact he was/is involved in producing counterfeit carts, do you also now concur with the general consensus that the carts are fakes?
 

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I'd highly encourage you to see this matter through. As you've stated that you believe Jason Young has perpetrated a scam by misrepresenting himself and hiding the fact he was/is involved in producing counterfeit carts, do you also now concur with the general consensus that the carts are fakes?

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showt...of-Ray-Young&p=3557669&viewfull=1#post3557669

And I can't keep discussing any action that may be taken against David/Jason in public, I hope you all can understand that.

Please, find out what you guys can on this guy, call phone numbers, get info. If you were seriously vested in this from the start and not just trolling for the fun of it, do so,etching about it.

If you guys really don't care - don't post in this thread.
 

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When Chamane asked for a refund, David said he was going to get his dad.

His dad?

I'm wondering if his dad is Ray. Wouldn't that be some shit...


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http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showt...of-Ray-Young&p=3557669&viewfull=1#post3557669

And I can't keep discussing any action that may be taken against David/Jason in public, I hope you all can understand that.

Please, find out what you guys can on this guy, call phone numbers, get info. If you were seriously vested in this from the start and not just trolling for the fun of it, do so,etching about it.

If you guys really don't care - don't post in this thread.

WHAT TO DO IF YOU DISCOVER YOU ARE
THE MIDDLEMAN TO A FRAUD:

http://www.fraudaid.com/how-to-deal...u-discover-you-are-a-middleman-in-a-fraud.htm

I found that in a quick search, and there are many other sites with such information.

I hope you have looked into this type of information to protect yourself.

If you have secured an attorney already, I think that's a good step.

The only info I can contribute is the address DavidG gave me when I shipped off my converters, Gun Lord and 3 copies of SSII to him:

292 Eastdale Blvd
Stoneycreek, Ontario, Canada
L8E3P4

I believe this is the address that matches your Google Maps picture of his home. I searched for that same address when it was revealed that DavidG was the source of the games in question. (Obviously, I got worried).

The email I was to use for PayPal to pay the balance of the converter mods was:

judithsule@yahoo.ca

I know when I received everything back from DavidG it came from a different address in Canada:

3350 Fairview St, Suite 3
Burlington, ON L7N3L5

Now, on Google Maps I can't say for sure but it does pin a "Radiant Beauty Supplies" which I believe is at that address:

http://www.radiantbeautysupplies.com/?q=node/49

Does that relate to the "PureVixen Cosmetics" group in Jason's Facebook profile?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/PureVixen-Cosmetics/167349379969928?fref=ts

Seems too much of a coincidence if you ask me.

Hope this helps in any way.
 

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Whatever he said, DavidG has no guns. Sure he owns a nice car but he's just a nerd hiding in a warehouse. He's no mafia and nobody walks arround with a M-16 in Stoneycreek. It's Canada here BTW, different laws, different mentalities, different people.
 

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Whatever he said, DavidG has no guns. Sure he owns a nice car but he's just a nerd hiding in a warehouse. He's no mafia and nobody walks arround with a M-16 in Stoneycreek. It's Canada here BTW, different laws, different mentalities, different people.

I think he was trying to intimidate me if I ever went looking for him, it didn't work.
 

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WHAT TO DO IF YOU DISCOVER YOU ARE
THE MIDDLEMAN TO A FRAUD:

http://www.fraudaid.com/how-to-deal...u-discover-you-are-a-middleman-in-a-fraud.htm

I found that in a quick search, and there are many other sites with such information.

I hope you have looked into this type of information to protect yourself.

If you have secured an attorney already, I think that's a good step.

The only info I can contribute is the address DavidG gave me when I shipped off my converters, Gun Lord and 3 copies of SSII to him:

292 Eastdale Blvd
Stoneycreek, Ontario, Canada
L8E3P4

I believe this is the address that matches your Google Maps picture of his home. I searched for that same address when it was revealed that DavidG was the source of the games in question. (Obviously, I got worried).

The email I was to use for PayPal to pay the balance of the converter mods was:

judithsule@yahoo.ca

I know when I received everything back from DavidG it came from a different address in Canada:

3350 Fairview St, Suite 3
Burlington, ON L7N3L5

Now, on Google Maps I can't say for sure but it does pin a "Radiant Beauty Supplies" which I believe is at that address:

http://www.radiantbeautysupplies.com/?q=node/49

Does that relate to the "PureVixen Cosmetics" group in Jason's Facebook profile?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/PureVixen-Cosmetics/167349379969928?fref=ts

Seems too much of a coincidence if you ask me.

Hope this helps in any way.

Thanks man. Keep the posts like this coming.

Yes, the cosmetics company is attached.
 

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How about contacting this Detective Bruce Lemcke of the Peel Regional Police fraud squad and ask him about Jason Young and Daniel Vassaro?

Detective Bruce C. Lemcke #851
Officer-In Charge Labour Liaison Bureau
(905) 453-3311 ext. 3606
 

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I couldn't resist. We need some comedy relief from the drama right?

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I found your post in the past few days to be quite amusing, Mike.

Let me get right to the point. Jason Young and David Garrett are two different people (and yes I am aware I just spoke of myself in the 3rd person) and I am not Jason, Ray, Livu, General Hanzo and a patridge in a pear tree. Also, I didn’t make Aero Fighters 3 or Power Spikes 2. What I have said about them have been the truth and neither Jason, Ray, !Arcade! nor myself/DGE had any hand in the games creation. This has been proven already.

You can take any !Arcade! release and when compared to another cart they made, they match. It’s been checked many times over and AF3/PS2 do not match anything !Arcade! has ever done. My work (being the 161 multicart and the converter) has also been compared to AF3 and PS2 and they do not even come close.

Let’s go over a few things the community may or may not know.

Firstly, Mike knew from day one that there were more than 3 Aero Fighter 3’s and at no time was 3 ever the limit. Mike, being Mike, ended up digging a hole for himself by saying only 3 copies were available.

Secondly, Mike also went out of his way to keep everyone on a very short leash in an attempt to keep total control over the buyers... and his cut of course!

For the first sale, I offered to have the buyer and Mike meet in Toronto (giving the buyer all the time he wanted to check out the game). However, Mike vehemently turned this down because he wanted total control of every present and future transactions and of course, Mike wanted the spot light (what’s new?).

When Mike first got his hands on AF3 he called me and said he didn’t like what he saw. Mike has purposely withheld the fact that I asked him to return the game to me and it goes back to the box. Mike refused to return the game and instead send it to John hoping for a more positive second opinion.

What only a few people know is that I was asked how much I wanted for the game, and my answer was $8000. Mike told me he could sell each one for $30,000+. Of course I had no problems with that number... if Mike believed he could do so, then why not leave everything in his hands?

Mike is very secretive about the fact that, in his quest to keep total control over everyone, he insisted that all monies pass through his hands. This means that the buyers pay Mike the entire amount and he simply took his cut... or... they paid his cut directly to him. This means that he is 100% on the hook for his entire cut as, at no given moment in time, did I handle Mike’s payment. The fact remains that there isn’t a court of law that will let this piece of information slide. If this should ever go to a court of law... then, Mike, You are 100% “liable”.

Also, whenever the buyers paid Mike the total lump sum for a sale, he would not only take his agreed percentage but would nickel and dime me to death with imaginary fees. Oh! and let’s not forget the many times he would call crying for a bonus to “help him sleep at night”. Did you ever buy that Mac Book Pro you said you wanted last time you stuck me for an additional $2,000 Mike?

Let me say this again... If this goes to court, Mike, and I show exactly how much money you really sent my way, then believe, you’re on the hook for every cent you took. Every cent Mike...even the hundreds you took for your “Steak Dinners”.

While we’re talking about facts, lets not forget that Mike talks a good game online. Everything went awry, where did he go? Mike all but disappeared. There is no need to even try and defend this one, Mike ol buddy, the proof is in the pudding.

Thirdly, Mike, You claim to be close friends with the buyers. The phone calls I had with them after you ran and hid under your bed says otherwise. Besides, if you were a true friend then you shouldn’t have a problem giving back everything you took from your “friends”. Let get this straight, You’re not a victim. Never have and will never be.

I took quite some time and worked out why you do what you do Mike. See, Mike here needs to be part of this community. Here on neo-geo.com he is (was) a big shot, a real somebody. Outside in the real world he’s a nobody, so, when the neo door was closed on him, he just couldn’t take it and resorted to pulling every stop.

This issue is between myself and the buyers... as well as Mike. If any buyer has a problem or concern they can reach me using the same method that has been made available to them from the beginning.

Oh! and Mike, just because you think you’re so clever. .. I’ll let you know that once John pulled that stunt with AF3 (you know what stunt I’m referring to) I proceeded to recorded all future conversations... and I just so happen to have one recording where I specifically informed you that I would be recording my calls going forward, and your exact response was: “That’s a good idea” (making my evidence admissible in a court of law... bet you forgot about that one.. lol. )

This will be my last post on these forums as I refuse to partake of this debacle. Going forward, I will only be communicating directly to the buyers.
 

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David (Jason), I see you viewing the thread right now.

You'd better post something.
 

CORY

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Holy shit.

I found your post in the past few days to be quite amusing, Mike.

Let me get right to the point. Jason Young and David Garrett are two different people (and yes I am aware I just spoke of myself in the 3rd person) and I am not Jason, Ray, Livu, General Hanzo and a patridge in a pear tree. Also, I didn’t make Aero Fighters 3 or Power Spikes 2. What I have said about them have been the truth and neither Jason, Ray, !Arcade! nor myself/DGE had any hand in the games creation. This has been proven already.

You can take any !Arcade! release and when compared to another cart they made, they match. It’s been checked many times over and AF3/PS2 do not match anything !Arcade! has ever done. My work (being the 161 multicart and the converter) has also been compared to AF3 and PS2 and they do not even come close.

Let’s go over a few things the community may or may not know.

Firstly, Mike knew from day one that there were more than 3 Aero Fighter 3’s and at no time was 3 ever the limit. Mike, being Mike, ended up digging a hole for himself by saying only 3 copies were available.

Secondly, Mike also went out of his way to keep everyone on a very short leash in an attempt to keep total control over the buyers... and his cut of course!

For the first sale, I offered to have the buyer and Mike meet in Toronto (giving the buyer all the time he wanted to check out the game). However, Mike vehemently turned this down because he wanted total control of every present and future transactions and of course, Mike wanted the spot light (what’s new?).

When Mike first got his hands on AF3 he called me and said he didn’t like what he saw. Mike has purposely withheld the fact that I asked him to return the game to me and it goes back to the box. Mike refused to return the game and instead send it to John hoping for a more positive second opinion.

What only a few people know is that I was asked how much I wanted for the game, and my answer was $8000. Mike told me he could sell each one for $30,000+. Of course I had no problems with that number... if Mike believed he could do so, then why not leave everything in his hands?

Mike is very secretive about the fact that, in his quest to keep total control over everyone, he insisted that all monies pass through his hands. This means that the buyers pay Mike the entire amount and he simply took his cut... or... they paid his cut directly to him. This means that he is 100% on the hook for his entire cut as, at no given moment in time, did I handle Mike’s payment. The fact remains that there isn’t a court of law that will let this piece of information slide. If this should ever go to a court of law... then, Mike, You are 100% “liable”.

Also, whenever the buyers paid Mike the total lump sum for a sale, he would not only take his agreed percentage but would nickel and dime me to death with imaginary fees. Oh! and let’s not forget the many times he would call crying for a bonus to “help him sleep at night”. Did you ever buy that Mac Book Pro you said you wanted last time you stuck me for an additional $2,000 Mike?

Let me say this again... If this goes to court, Mike, and I show exactly how much money you really sent my way, then believe, you’re on the hook for every cent you took. Every cent Mike...even the hundreds you took for your “Steak Dinners”.

While we’re talking about facts, lets not forget that Mike talks a good game online. Everything went awry, where did he go? Mike all but disappeared. There is no need to even try and defend this one, Mike ol buddy, the proof is in the pudding.

Thirdly, Mike, You claim to be close friends with the buyers. The phone calls I had with them after you ran and hid under your bed says otherwise. Besides, if you were a true friend then you shouldn’t have a problem giving back everything you took from your “friends”. Let get this straight, You’re not a victim. Never have and will never be.

I took quite some time and worked out why you do what you do Mike. See, Mike here needs to be part of this community. Here on neo-geo.com he is (was) a big shot, a real somebody. Outside in the real world he’s a nobody, so, when the neo door was closed on him, he just couldn’t take it and resorted to pulling every stop.

This issue is between myself and the buyers... as well as Mike. If any buyer has a problem or concern they can reach me using the same method that has been made available to them from the beginning.

Oh! and Mike, just because you think you’re so clever. .. I’ll let you know that once John pulled that stunt with AF3 (you know what stunt I’m referring to) I proceeded to recorded all future conversations... and I just so happen to have one recording where I specifically informed you that I would be recording my calls going forward, and your exact response was: “That’s a good idea” (making my evidence admissible in a court of law... bet you forgot about that one.. lol. )

This will be my last post on these forums as I refuse to partake of this debacle. Going forward, I will only be communicating directly to the buyers.

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