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StevenK

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The Terror (Season 1)- I watched a couple episodes of this when it was originally airing and then just kind of lost interest for some reason. I have heard a couple people mention it positively since it's showed up on Netflix so I thought I'd give it another shot. I actually had no idea it was an anthology series and that the other season(s) are totally separate stories.

It's an interesting but extremely flawed show. It has an absolutely incredible cast, some outstanding performances and nice production values. (Aside from one thing in particular) The premise is also just really cool. The famous Franklin Expedition to find the Northwest Passage has a lot of potential for a horror story. It starts off really well and has excellent character development but it shows it's hand too early then bounces between a couple different types of horror and culminates in an unbelievably dumb mess that just does not work. I have to give props to the actor that played Hickey though, he is an amazingly despicable character but what they do with him in the last couple episodes is really, really dumb. Everything just goes completely off the rails and not in a satisfying or interesting way.

There is also some absolutely embarrassing CG for a certain element that for some reason they decide to introduce much earlier than they need to and then double down on by showing it a lot. It's honestly baffling why they would choose to do this and that it was approved at any step of the process.

Honestly I think it's still worth watching for the incredibly strong performances and unique setting but be aware that there are some serious issues. It's like some weird combination of Master & Commander, The Edge and Saint Maude.
I know exactly what you're talking about with this.

My thoughts were that the true elements of the story are interesting enough to not require any of the weird shit they threw in, but even taking that into account the captain makes it worth sticking with. Been a while since I saw it though.
 

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Daryl Dixon- I can only blame myself for watching this.

I'll start with the only positives:

1.) It's Daryl being Daryl.
2.) France is an interesting setting and they make good use of it.
3.) It's fairly well paced compared to other TWD stuff. He travels further in 6 episodes than they did in multiple seasons of TWD.

That's it, everything else ranges from bad to straight up terrible. I watched about half of TWD when it was airing and gave up on that after the Neagan arc, so I have no real interest in the universe. But for some reason I decided against my better judgement to check this out just based off wait... WTF? Why is Daryl in France? Turns out it's so they could blatantly copy Last Of Us and The Road. Except they forgot all the stuff that made those actual good stories but remembered all the stuff that made TWD an infuriating muddled slog.

Daryl somehow ended up on some sort of prison ship in Maine and ends up washed ashore on the southeastern coast of France with partial amnesia? Fuck off. Then he meets a nun who convinces him to escort a little gay autistic boy to the west coast. The nun and apparently a ton of other people are somehow convinced that this kid is the literal messiah who is going to somehow rebuild the world. Except the kid is even more useless than Carl ever was. Fuck off. Also some of the zombies now have acid for blood just like Xenomorphs. Fuck you. There's a mid level bad guy that turns into an ally, then a second mid level badder bad guy that turns into an ally. There's also a comically evil fascist woman that runs a revolutionary military organization that's trying to kill the boy so that he can't bring hope to a new world. Fuck off.

Oh yeah and literally everyone Daryl meets speaks english. Everyone. He even meets a group of kids that all speak english because they learned it from watching fucking Mork and Mindy on VHS that is powered by a bicycle generator like some shit out of Beyond Thunderdome or Fallout. Fucks sake.

Daryl, the nun and the kid stupidly meander their way across France in a donkey cart to a magical sanctuary castle on the west coast. It ends with Daryl having to make a decision wether to stay in France or go back to 'merica in what I can only describe as one of if no the dumbest cliffhanger endings ever. Obviously you know there was going to be a cliffhanger but not that the show was literally going to laugh in your face for having sat through all 6 episodes. Seriously, it's just insultingly bad. Almost like something out of a parody.

They had to have known people would see through all this half-baked nonsense so they intentionally stretch out how Daryl got there to trick you into watching. But when you finally get what little explanation they bother to provide you're already in too deep to quit. What really amazes me is that after I finished it I read some reviews to see if anyone else felt duped and to my surprise most of them were really positive. I suspect that says a lot about how low the bar is these days in regards to both the core audience and the content, also just how bad TWD seems to have gotten by the end and in it's other spinoffs.

The worst thing is a lot of the basic premise could have worked, Daryl doesn't feel to out of place in France and he's legitimately a good character. But there's so much stupidity and unoriginality it just goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing.
 

jro

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Penguin is starting to feel like performative art over substance.

Just now on episode 7 S1 of From, first show in a while that's grabbed me.
 

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Daryl Dixon- I can only blame myself for watching this.

I'll start with the only positives:

1.) It's Daryl being Daryl.
2.) France is an interesting setting and they make good use of it.
3.) It's fairly well paced compared to other TWD stuff. He travels further in 6 episodes than they did in multiple seasons of TWD.

That's it, everything else ranges from bad to straight up terrible. I watched about half of TWD when it was airing and gave up on that after the Neagan arc, so I have no real interest in the universe. But for some reason I decided against my better judgement to check this out just based off wait... WTF? Why is Daryl in France? Turns out it's so they could blatantly copy Last Of Us and The Road. Except they forgot all the stuff that made those actual good stories but remembered all the stuff that made TWD an infuriating muddled slog.

Daryl somehow ended up on some sort of prison ship in Maine and ends up washed ashore on the southeastern coast of France with partial amnesia? Fuck off. Then he meets a nun who convinces him to escort a little gay autistic boy to the west coast. The nun and apparently a ton of other people are somehow convinced that this kid is the literal messiah who is going to somehow rebuild the world. Except the kid is even more useless than Carl ever was. Fuck off. Also some of the zombies now have acid for blood just like Xenomorphs. Fuck you. There's a mid level bad guy that turns into an ally, then a second mid level badder bad guy that turns into an ally. There's also a comically evil fascist woman that runs a revolutionary military organization that's trying to kill the boy so that he can't bring hope to a new world. Fuck off.

Oh yeah and literally everyone Daryl meets speaks english. Everyone. He even meets a group of kids that all speak english because they learned it from watching fucking Mork and Mindy on VHS that is powered by a bicycle generator like some shit out of Beyond Thunderdome or Fallout. Fucks sake.

Daryl, the nun and the kid stupidly meander their way across France in a donkey cart to a magical sanctuary castle on the west coast. It ends with Daryl having to make a decision wether to stay in France or go back to 'merica in what I can only describe as one of if no the dumbest cliffhanger endings ever. Obviously you know there was going to be a cliffhanger but not that the show was literally going to laugh in your face for having sat through all 6 episodes. Seriously, it's just insultingly bad. Almost like something out of a parody.

They had to have known people would see through all this half-baked nonsense so they intentionally stretch out how Daryl got there to trick you into watching. But when you finally get what little explanation they bother to provide you're already in too deep to quit. What really amazes me is that after I finished it I read some reviews to see if anyone else felt duped and to my surprise most of them were really positive. I suspect that says a lot about how low the bar is these days in regards to both the core audience and the content, also just how bad TWD seems to have gotten by the end and in it's other spinoffs.

The worst thing is a lot of the basic premise could have worked, Daryl doesn't feel to out of place in France and he's legitimately a good character. But there's so much stupidity and unoriginality it just goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing.
The Walking Dead is now the shambling zombie the characters in the show used to kill.

The TV show turned to shit when they killed Carl.

It's like adding a sex room to the blueprint for an orphanage. A deviation that not only was absolutely unnecessary but is wholly misguided and inappropriate.

The comic book was better by 20 miles.
 

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Penguin is starting to feel like performative art over substance.

Just now on episode 7 S1 of From, first show in a while that's grabbed me.

I still like Farrell's portrayal, but I agree with you. His mom finally called him "Oswald" instead of "Oz." Still goes by "Cobb" instead of Cobblepot which is weird. If you're going to make a show about one of the more stylized Batman rogues (and that's saying something) you need to embrace all aspects of the character, no matter how "goofy" it might feel in this day and age.

My wife is watching it with me and made the comment "this is basically The Sopranos, but set in Gotham and no James Gandolfini."
 
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