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Xavier

Ikari Warrior
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Anti masker today.

I cannot believe this is America. I can't.

Hopefully she doesn't know Steve but would feel bad about killing somebody.

A lot of them don't seem to care though, Lilthy thinks it's LOL.

My ex wife thought it was a joke until she wanted to travel and not get sick. When four people at work tested + she seemed disturbed for a moment. I don't know how things turned out.
 

LoneSage

A Broken Man
20 Year Member
TonK's Return has made him a Christ-like figure. It's so epic. Like when Gandalf died and came back as Gandalf the White.

TonK the White.
 

Xavier

Ikari Warrior
20 Year Member
The chief scientific adviser to the UK advocated for it. Sweden are doing it. These are real, significant opinions.

But let's be clear, if one single medical professional thought it was the way to go that would be worth more than your opinion. You are literally 'just any old fucking guy' in all of this.

The whole planet struggles to find an answer to this impossible puzzle and you continuously fart out '100%' this, 'certain' that, 'I know I know' blah blah blah.

No. You don't know shit. You've been doing this for months and you sound like a fool.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/22/coronavirus-vaccine-wont-bring-about-a-fairytale-ending-expert-.html

Coronavirus vaccine won’t bring about ‘fairytale’ ending to pandemic, expert warns

Published Tue, Sep 22 2020

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration, for instance, said at the end of June that it expected “a Covid-19 vaccine would prevent disease or decrease its severity in at least 50% of people who are vaccinated.”

“The WHO is hoping to be able to vaccinate 20% of the world by the end of 2021, and that’s already quite ambitious, it’s a huge exercise to vaccinate the world,” he added.

It’s statistically very unlikely that the first one will be the best and what would concern me is that everyone would say: ‘Oh, it’s 50% effective, or 60%, let’s do it,’ and a few months later you might find one that’s 80% effective, or you find that the first one wears off after six months and you need to do boosters again,” he said.
 
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SML

NEANDERTHAL FUCKER,
20 Year Member
I'm still not clear on how you "advocate" for letting a pandemic become endemic. You're kind of taking the position that "disease control" isn't really something to pursue. At that point, what exactly is your job?
 

StevenK

ng.com SFII tournament winner 2002-2023
10 Year Member
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/22/coronavirus-vaccine-wont-bring-about-a-fairytale-ending-expert-.html

Coronavirus vaccine won’t bring about ‘fairytale’ ending to pandemic, expert warns

Published Tue, Sep 22 2020

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration, for instance, said at the end of June that it expected “a Covid-19 vaccine would prevent disease or decrease its severity in at least 50% of people who are vaccinated.”

“The WHO is hoping to be able to vaccinate 20% of the world by the end of 2021, and that’s already quite ambitious, it’s a huge exercise to vaccinate the world,” he added.

It’s statistically very unlikely that the first one will be the best and what would concern me is that everyone would say: ‘Oh, it’s 50% effective, or 60%, let’s do it,’ and a few months later you might find one that’s 80% effective, or you find that the first one wears off after six months and you need to do boosters again,” he said.

We already discussed that no one was talking about the vaccine eradicating the disease.
 

Xavier

Ikari Warrior
20 Year Member
We already discussed that no one was talking about the vaccine eradicating the disease.

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Theres no long lasting immunity so far and none in sight

Infecting & vacinating 40-70% of the population so it doesn't spread as easily and is easier to contain is a formula for disaster.

By the time you reach that threshold of 40-70% everyone will have lost any immunity.
 
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evil wasabi

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Theres no long lasting immunity so far and none in sight

Infecting & vacinating 40-70% of the population so it doesn't spread as easily and is easier to contain is a formula for disaster.

A formula for reducing payments for social security, medicare, medicaid, NHS, NIS, etc.

This virus was, tinfoil hat time, probably a culling.
 

Xavier

Ikari Warrior
20 Year Member
A formula for reducing payments for social security, medicare, medicaid, NHS, NIS, etc.

This virus was, tinfoil hat time, probably a culling.

Yeah that's what I've been thinking, or that this president is just THAT incompetent.

I'd rather be happy go lucky and live in ignorant bliss and believe Trump is just a total moron.

With all this pandemic reliefs funds, the loss in taxes and other revenues it will be awhile be the government gets a return on investment.
 
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evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
Yeah that's what I've been thinking, or that this president is just THAT incompetent.

I'd rather be happy go lucky and live in ignorant bliss and believe Trump is just a total moron.

it's more likely that early on, advisors in each country brought up the potential for massive deaths, which groups would be affected, and a footnote on every one of those presentations was the net economic windfall.
 

TonK

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Theres no long lasting immunity so far and none in sight

Infecting & vacinating 40-70% of the population so it doesn't spread as easily and is easier to contain is a formula for disaster.

By the time you reach that threshold of 40-70% everyone will have lost any immunity.

Was talking about this with my wife.

Are we just supposed to brace ourselves for WHEN we get it?

Granted, nobody knows if it's going to cause me health issues down the road.

I don't want it. What can be done?

That's why Trump should (IMO) be held accountable for lying to us about the severity.
 

StevenK

ng.com SFII tournament winner 2002-2023
10 Year Member
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Theres no long lasting immunity so far and none in sight

Infecting & vacinating 40-70% of the population so it doesn't spread as easily and is easier to contain is a formula for disaster.

By the time you reach that threshold of 40-70% everyone will have lost any immunity.

I don't think I know what you're trying to say anymore. You don't even agree with the attempt to find a vaccine?
 

StevenK

ng.com SFII tournament winner 2002-2023
10 Year Member
I don't want it. What can be done?

You can sit in your house all day and on the rare occasion that you do have to go out you can wear a full hazmat. Nobody has to get it if they are prepared to make huge sacrifices.
 

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
I don't think I know what you're trying to say anymore. You don't even agree with the attempt to find a vaccine?

I think he's making sense. Telling people to get infected and then offer a vaccine is recklessness. It's like telling south africans to get fucked and get aids, and then they will offer a solution (which is exactly how it went, still no solution yet - but we have been CLOSE for years).
 

StevenK

ng.com SFII tournament winner 2002-2023
10 Year Member
I think he's making sense. Telling people to get infected and then offer a vaccine is recklessness. It's like telling south africans to get fucked and get aids, and then they will offer a solution (which is exactly how it went, still no solution yet - but we have been CLOSE for years).

I agree that a vaccine is unlikely to be the silver bullet, it's for that reason that I think we have no choice but to learn to live with this. If I thought one of these vaccines would be a full cure and was going to be available within the next couple of months I'd be all for lockdowns.

Does anyone seriously think we could test and trace this disease out of existence globally?
 

deez_nutz

moest promoenent moember of chat
15 Year Member
A formula for reducing payments for social security, medicare, medicaid, NHS, NIS, etc.

This virus was, tinfoil hat time, probably a culling.

I’m sold. Was disproportionate impact on poorer (black) communities part of the plan...or just dumb luck?
 

Xavier

Ikari Warrior
20 Year Member
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Does anyone seriously think we could test and trace this disease out of existence globally?

What's a disturbing thing is that the Whitehouse and everybody in Trumps orbit goes through the proper procedures.

It's what Asia did and it worked out pretty well for them.

You can sit in your house all day and on the rare occasion that you do have to go out you can wear a full hazmat. Nobody has to get it if they are prepared to make huge sacrifices.

Wear a face covering, stay several feet away from others, wash your hands and use proper hygiene cleaning procedures. If somebody sneezes on you don't rub it in your eyeballs. That should stop almost all of it.

I just went to the gas station behind my house and saw around 20 people and no masks.

it's more likely that early on, advisors in each country brought up the potential for massive deaths, which groups would be affected, and a footnote on every one of those presentations was the net economic windfall.

I can't picture some shadowy puppet-master pulling Trumps strings. He's the one who said it's a Democrat hoax, it'll go away in April. it's just the flu, people wear masks just to make him look bad...it's all on him.

Look at Japan they could really use the deaths. Here in a bit they are going to need to import a million Filipinos to babysit grandma and grandpa at the nursing home. 79,438 cases, 1508 deaths.

Teh AZianzs are all about the collective too so if anybody would have jumped on the kill the useless people bandwagon it would have been them. Instead they used that energy to wear masks, screen, test, trace and isolate.
 
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TonK

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Wear a face covering, stay several feet away from others, wash your hands and use proper hygiene cleaning procedures. If somebody sneezes on you don't rub it in your eyeballs. That should stop almost all of it.

I just went to the gas station behind my house and saw around 20 people and no masks.

We'll never get people to wear masks who haven't already. End result of DJT.
 
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