King of Fighters 94: Team Edit hack

[city41]

I've been working on adding team edit to KOF94. This has proven to be a monster of a change, holy cow. I still have a very long ways to go.

Here is a demo of what I have so far

The awesome news is KOF94's engine already supports custom teams, so it's mostly about a new character select screen. The continue screen and win screens do not though, I think they are going to be tough to crack.

 

[Neo Alec]

This is going to be so much fun! There is still so much untapped potential for fan hacks on the Neo Geo. Hope you wilk share more progress, notes about the challenges along the way.

Those that haven't got a NeoSD will be changing their tune.

 

[HellioN]

This is going to be so much fun! There is still so much untapped potential for fan hacks on the Neo Geo. Hope you wilk share more progress, notes about the challenges along the way.

Those that haven't got a NeoSD will be changing their tune.

ZEH ROMZORZ!

 

[Neo Alec]

ZEH ROMZORZ!

Yes. I like to load the r0mZ0rz and hacks on the real Neo Geo, but an emulator works too if you prefer.

 

[Hattori Hanzo]

94 is underrated and @city41 is good people.

 

[city41]

94 is underrated and @city41 is good people.

It's my favorite KOF. And ironically not being able to edit your teams is one reason why I just think that's an interesting limitation to put on a game.

 

[Hattori Hanzo]

It isn't my favorite but my first KOF on a real Neo. Always liked it.

 

[Ralfakick]

Does KOF 94 Rebout have team edit? Can you do NeoGeo Mode with team edit in that games as well? I need to get my copy out.

 

[kernow]

I wish I had this motivation
Great work

 

[city41]

Does KOF 94 Rebout have team edit? Can you do NeoGeo Mode with team edit in that games as well? I need to get my copy out.

I've never actually played Rebout. But based on this video, it looks like Neo Geo mode is just using emulation

 

[yagamikun]

It's my favorite KOF. And ironically not being able to edit your teams is one reason why I just think that's an interesting limitation to put on a game.

According to the KOF Visual History book, it sounds like this limitation was due to, or at least heavily influenced by, only having two weeks to balance the characters - not just hit strength but also hit box placement, the frame a move would connect on, etc. Basically, because of the time crunch, more work went into overall team balance rather than individual character balance. I think that tracks.

I mean, a team with Terry, Heidern, and Chang would be scary indeed. I guess we'll find out soon enough! Thanks for the good work, dude!

 

[Neo Alec]

In my NGCD days, I really preferred '94 just because it didn't load between rounds.

 

[Ralfakick]

It isn't my favorite but my first KOF on a real Neo. Always liked it.

It was my first AES cart all together. I played 95 first on the PlayStation though so that holds more memories for me, but having that first cart was still cool to me.

 

[The Chief]

This is really cool. I always thought the fixed teams were the biggest detriment to the game. I was very happy when they added team edit in subsequent releases. There’s a lot of flavor being that’s it’s the first on the series and some of the backgrounds are simply beautiful.

 

[BlackaneseNiNjA]

Does KOF 94 Rebout have team edit? Can you do NeoGeo Mode with team edit in that games as well? I need to get my copy out.

Sup Ralfakick. Hell yeah it did In addition to a new arranged version of the ost, fully animated opening, new 3d backgrounds, effects and more, KOF94 Rebout also added a team edit mode which was a blast back in the day:



As city41 stated above, the other “NeoGeo Mode” option is just the original game with no team edit.

 

[Ralfakick]

Sup Ralfakick. Hell yeah it did In addition to a new arranged version of the ost, fully animated opening, new 3d backgrounds, effects and more, KOF94 Rebout also added a team edit mode which was a blast back in the day:

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As another user stated above the other “NeoGeo Mode” option is just the original game with no team edit.

My man, always great to see your posts

 

[HellioN]

I was pretty sure ReBout had team edit in the update.
I was overall disappointed in that game though and didn't play it much.

 

[city41]

Still a long ways to go on this. But I've gotten the hack far enough for people to try out.

You can create it here: https://neorh.mattgreer.dev/

Also check the release notes at that site, this early version has lots of issues. But custom teams, the new character select, and game play all work fine.

 

[Neo Alec]

Really nice to see progress on this! It's working on my NeoSD Pro. It seems like the game determines the team you're playing as based on the first character you choose, is that right?

 

[city41]

Really nice to see progress on this! It's working on my NeoSD Pro. It seems like the game determines the team you're playing as based on the first character you choose, is that right?

The team you are playing against? I'm actually not sure yet. The cpu randomization is something I need to dig into next. The cpu randomization is still the original game's code, all I am doing is moving the cursor around along with it.

Somehow my hack made it so the cpu doesn't keep track of which teams you have beaten. So this basically makes single player mode endless. It's pretty funny how impossibly hard the cpu gets at like fight 20

This will be what I focus on next.

 

[Neo Alec]

No, not the team I'm playing against.

I selected Terry as my first character choice, and I noticed the game correctly used a purple Terry for the CPU side, and the Fatal Fury team was displayed when I won a match.

 

[city41]

No, not the team I'm playing against.

I selected Terry as my first character choice, and I noticed the game correctly used a purple Terry for the CPU side, and the Fatal Fury team was displayed when I won a match.

Ah, gotcha.

KOF94's engine both stores which team you chose (ie Italy, Japan, etc), and which three characters you are using. in normal KOF94 the two are locked together. My hack changes the three characters you chose but a side effect is the team you end up with is now mostly random. There is a logic to the choice, but it's complex and effectively it's pretty random.

Whatever team you ended up with is what shows up on the continue and win screens. And in versus mode it also determins what background you fight on. Oh and if the team you end up with happens to be the team the cpu chooses, the cpu will use alternate colors.

This is temporary, when the hack is done this will all be fixed and you'll never be surprised by strange characters popping up.

 

[city41]

As an example, choose Terry/Chang/Choi. Most of the time you'll end up on Team Brazil.

 

[Neo Alec]

Okay, makes sense, thanks. Sorry for the dumb questions. I'll shut up and enjoy for now. I appreciate this effort.

 

[city41]

Okay, makes sense, thanks. Sorry for the dumb questions. I'll shut up and enjoy for now. I appreciate this effort.

No worries. I don't mind questions.




Woohoo! Still more to figure out but win screens are getting there.