Genesis VS SNES - which was the best?

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lol That's the exact opposite of what I was going to say. The Genesis is like a post-SNES nintendo console. 90% of anything good on Genesis was first party.

That does not work as a description of SNES, though. The third party support was phenomenal. And on a side note, if you think Landstalker is better than Zelda, you are probably legally retarded.

So, was the third party support on the Genesis lacking, or was it that the third party games were just not good? :scratch: On either count, I think this is incorrect. The SEGA games were top notch, but the Genesis library is big and quality and a lot of that is because of the third party titles.

Maybe the third party games on the Genesis didn't come from some of the more notable developers, like on the SNES, but the quantity was certainly there, and so was the quality. Hell, the Genesis even got it's own versions of some of the more notable franchises that were previously Nintendo exclusive.
 

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Genny got 3rd party support by companies such as Wolf Team, 8ing/Raizing, Data East, a bit of Taito, Namco, Capcom, Acclaim, Konami or Telenet, that's good enough for me. Less sweetstuffs, more mindless action, you know. That was what I wanted and the Genny delivered, RPGs and Mario I gladly left to others. To say that the majority of the good games in its library were first-party is a bit of a stretch. Different tastes, you know.
 

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I always felt wrong that "adult-oriented" definition.
Now that I'm definitively adult, I find the Snes/Sfc's library deeper and more mature.
MD completely lacks in titles like Front Mission or Clock Tower...

That's a very interesting point (BTW I'd also add Beam Software's Shadowrun into this pot) and tho the Mega Drive did not feature one knockout game in terms of maturity, it had this aspect scattered and camouflaged over more than one game:

Alien Soldier with its totally reduced hardcoreness, Kujaku Oh II with those gruesome Makai/Junjikai babies, Crying with that bare bone electronic OST & dystopian setting, Bare Knuckle III -- again an FM inferno that no child could understand or accept. Gynoug, that's homoerotic Makai at its best or X-ZR II with an actual genuine antagonist as a hero.

There's also Landstalker with the nude bath scene & a casino to fill an empty public purse. There's The Story of Thor with its autistic gameplay: no shops, scarce communication & a Mahler-like Koshiro OST. There's the better port of Flashback, too.

Well, Sonic did have his spikes, you know ;).
 

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Anyone find it funny that Sonic games aren't really fast when compared to Mario?

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Bro, please don't talk out your ass.

Konami made some good games for the Mega Drive:

Junction (1990)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist (1992)
Sunset Riders (1992)
Tiny Toon Adventures: Buster's Hidden Treasure (1993)
Lethal Enforcers (1993)
Rocket Knight Adventures (1993)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Tournament Fighters (1993)
Nigel Mansell's World Championship Racing (1993)
Zombies Ate My Neighbors (1993)
Hyper Dunk: The Playoff Edition (1994)
Castlevania Bloodlines (1994)
Sparkster: Rocket Knight Adventures 2 (1994)
Contra: Hard Corps (1994)
Tiny Toon Adventures: Acme All-Stars (1994)
Animaniacs (1994)
Lethal Enforcers II: Gun Fighters (1994)
International Superstar Soccer Deluxe (1996)

Better versions of all those on snes plus more.
 

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Rocket Knight Adventures is legit and Sparkster is shit on Genesis and SNES.

I'm also pretty sure Rocket Knight was Genesis/MD exclusive, so was Ristar, and Pulseman, and Vectorman; all quality platformers, which is apparently one of the genres where the Genesis is not as strong in.

What I have to give credit to both consoles on is that even for the same game franchise, sometimes even for the same exact game, both consoles offered up unique and great games. One of the more notable examples is Aladdin; a great game on both consoles, but completely different for each. Of course the Genesis version is better, but the SNES game is still really good.
 

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I'm also pretty sure Rocket Knight was Genesis/MD exclusive, so was Ristar, and Pulseman, and Vectorman; all quality platformers, which is apparently one of the genres where the Genesis is not as strong in.

What I have to give credit to both consoles on is that even for the same game franchise, sometimes even for the same exact game, both consoles offered up unique and great games. One of the more notable examples is Aladdin; a great game on both consoles, but completely different for each. Of course the Genesis version is better, but the SNES game is still really good.

It is, I'm pointing out that Sparkster was on SNES and Genesis and both of those versions were shit. There is no RKA version on SNES and that game is hella good.
 

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lol That's the exact opposite of what I was going to say. The Genesis is like a post-SNES nintendo console. 90% of anything good on Genesis was first party.

That does not work as a description of SNES, though. The third party support was phenomenal. And on a side note, if you think Landstalker is better than Zelda, you are probably legally retarded.

Yup

I Capcom's output on the SNES alone makes his statement completely false.
 

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Landstalker was a phenomenal game. But Alttp has obviously the upper hand.

I'd say, the Big Big Big games on the Snes such as Zelda, Super Metroid, Mario World are untouchable and represent possibly the word perfection in its entire meaning. These games are absolutely flawless and should be on everyone's Top 10 or Top 20 favorite gamelist.
But for the rest, SEGA has more appeal to me.
 

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that both systems had it's own high and low points.
 

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There are some greats on the SNES, but without the few Nintendo developed games, and squaresoft, that console would have had next to nothing.

I went ahead and took out the extremely biased points you made but left this, which garnered a chuckle from me.

So...you're saying that is it wasn't for all of the cheese, sauce, and awesome toppings, pizza would suck?

Gotcha.

BTW, if you want to cut all the top developers for the SNES that made a ton of great games for the thing, don't forget to exclude Konami, Capcom, Acclaim, Enix, Hudson, Jaleco, JVC/LA, Taito, Takara, Tradewest,...leave all of those out and yeah, the SNES pretty much chugs cocks.
 

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Still got both of mine and wouldn't part with either if I could help it. That said, if I had to choose, I'd keep the Sega Genesis, simply because I have almost twice as many Genny carts as SNES ones (184 > 98), and I'd be a fool to take half as many games. Objectively, I do agree that the SNES generally has better graphics/sound than the Genesis though.
 

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I would expect a little less stupidity out of a forum of seasoned gamers.

First of all, you could take every single first-party title out of the SNES library, and it would still be one of the best systems ever released.

The Genesis also had a lot of awesome third-party titles, many times from lesser-known companies. Shooters like Steel Empire, Phelios, Insector X, the awesome Thunder Force series, Tengen games like Gauntlet IV, and Namco titles like Splatterhouse 2 and 3. And look at all of the great non-sports EA games like Starflight, Road Rash, Buck Rogers, etc. The Genesis also had a ton of cool games that were Sega-ported third-party arcade games like Ghouls N Ghosts, Forgotten Worlds, MERCS, Strider, etc.

Having a discussion about which of these systems is "better" is like trying to argue about pizza vs. fried chicken.
 

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The megadrive was my first ever console (spectrum up until then), though I had played on friends master systems before, but christmas day, firing up sonic and altered beast, is probably the single greatest memory of my childhood.

I played sf2 and mario kart on the snes more than any other game before or after and along with a handful of other essential snes games these pretty much held me through my early teen years.

After that I went on to the playstation, which I loved, but the magic of those early 16 bit years never came back to me after that.

In terms of which system I like the best, all I can say is I sold my megadrive and all the games (for almost nothing), but I never sold my snes.

In terms of which was actually the best, I really don't know, I haven't played nearly enough of the games to a significant depth to be able to say, but I can say that the snes controllers were better imo. Also, the snes just felt a bit more polished in many ways, it was kind of like mcdonalds versus burger king, when a BK burger is right it's perfect, but you're more likely to walk into a BK bathroom and find a name written in shit on the wall.

Edit: actually, in terms of a polished product, I preferred the megadrive boxes, plus I loved the manuals with the proper solid spines. Hated those big gay EA carts though with the yellow plastic tab.
 
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what about fried chicken on the pizza?


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favourite genesis/megadrive games:

all the sonic games
revenge of shhinobi
shinobi 3
shadow dancer
streets of rage 1,2
space harrier
musha
battle mania
truxton
thunder force 4
gunstar heroes
phantasy star 2
dragons fury

favourite snes games:

link to the past
super metroid
star fox
donkey kong country 2
final fantasy 4,6
secret of mana
super castlevania 4
castlevania x
final fight
final fight 3
hagane
turtles in time
axelay
r type 3
gradius 3

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