Tron Legacy = Awesome??

[Mike Shagohod]

This was what I extrapolated from the conclusion.

Spoiler:

The world of Tron is perfectly fine, it's just Flynn and Clu that are gone. And Flynn's brain, the summation of the data on his identity disc, is on the chip around Sam's neck. Tron is swimming around somewhere and Quora represents a perfect and healthy form of life close enough to humanity that her genetic code could be used to fix the physical human condition-no more infirmity, no more diseases, no more genetic defects. The Flynns can give to the world and 'change everything.' I'm just glad they didn't cock up the hopeful, burgeoning-with-aspirations-and-ideas ending scene of Sam and Quora on the motorcycle with another chase sequence.

So that's how you do the "Spoiler" drop down menu. DOH! ^

We're kind of on the same wave length concerning Quorra and her role in our world.

 

[Setsuna1982]

BTW, this grid... is just inside that computer, without internet, etc, right?

Because it looks like is not connected to anything... that opens an interesting scenario since this grid is kinda "outdated" compared to the "real world" computers.

If this grid is so evolved... how the internet-grid looks like?

 

[Mike Shagohod]

BTW, this grid... is just inside that computer, without internet, etc, right?

Because it looks like is not connected to anything... that opens an interesting scenario since this grid is kinda "outdated" compared to the "real world" computers.

If this grid is so evolved... how the internet-grid looks like?

Grid 2.0 wasn't connected... strangely enough Grid 1.0 from the original WAS only on the predecessor to the INTERNET, most likely TELnet or something, otherwise there'd be no way that the MCP could have accessed the Pentagon, The Kremlin, and appropriated other computers. The MCP was more of a problem than CLU is in the new movie.

Really TRON Legacy is the fantastical voyage of son finding his "lost" father who was lost in more sense than one, inside an ever changing world in it's various *cycles* on a powerful offline server, and the war fought between creator and created being who really wasn't evil at all... "just logical" (as he saw it) carrying out the functions a more vain and not so humbled Kevin Flynn at the time of his incept. The beauty is, that for all his (Kevin's) tinkering around with 2.0 the ISOs came into being, and had he been able to get back out, things would have changed dramatically (probably in the mid 90s) back here, but he was trapped.

 

[Mike Shagohod]

MAN HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THESE...???

Gonna' have to purchase a pair (a bit pricey) and see use them in the cinema before the movie is gone. Hopefully they're still up for grabs. Shoot I might just wear them over my regular shades. *LOL* Oakley makes actual shades but I ain't spending $750.00 on that, I can do the $150.00 for the above TR2N 3-D shades though. Heck the design for the regulars shades doesn't look as cool.

 

[Taiso]

So that's how you do the "Spoiler" drop down menu. DOH! ^

We're kind of on the same wave length concerning Quorra and her role in our world. I just see a "plague/strain" suddenly killing off a good portion of mankind, and while she may well be the next step... a cure would still need to be made in order for her (I'm going to use this term here) > Manifest Destiny to be of any use to mankind at all. They (we... mankind) have to understand it, and even Kevin Flynn genius that he was didn't.

Thus this is why I find it feasible that the next Grid will be opened up using the code of 2.0 in that flash drive necklace, and it would be a "holding ground" for humanity to live inside a digital space while quarantined humans here are working to rectify the problem. Of course it wouldn't be a TRON movie if there wasn't a problem on the grid... so there'd have to be problems in 3.0 that problem would be mass humanity in a digital space who cannot cope with this new world, and our imperfect selves run amock. This time it's not the programs that the problem but rather the human strain. And a war begins between Users and Programs. Think of it as the Pilgrims taking on the Native Americans.

All of this is my thoughts on it of course. But this is the only thing that even remotely seems to make sense for a third one. Simply rehashing the first two movies again wouldn't work. There'd have to be a massive change, and that change would be a mass exodus of humanity, who's own actions are basically like hacking code because all of them are Users. For something like this I'd imagine a much more serious and dark version of the TRON world though. I dunno if it could be done in less than 3 hours, nor could it not be an "R" rated movie (at least on DVD version). This third film (should there be one) would also have to answer unanswered questions from #2. It be nice to see Yori again as well.

Just creative articulation on my part with another TRON fan (you) is all.

In all fairness, you are probably putting more thought and detail into future scenarios than Disney will ever allow for.

As for how Quora could help humanity, there is no need to overly complicate the details. It's enough to know that she exists, and in time the right minds will find a way to apply her genetic code to future generations of humans, thereby wiping out all form of imperfections that shorten lifespans and cause complicated lifestyles.

If they were really ambitious, they'd point out that humanity may not be ready for a society of perfectly healthy specimens. Gattaca was a GREAT example of the pressure different strains of human quality put on society. I'd LOVE for Tron to go to those lofty places in the next installment...but it won't.

BTW, does anyone know if all the 2.0 stuff is canonical? Not that it really matters, but it'd be interesting to know what Disney thinks of Lisberger's many attempts to advance the franchise over the years.

One more thing. I'm SUPER relieved Garret Hedlund didn't accept the role of Captain America.

 

[Nesagwa]

MAN HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THESE...???

Gonna' have to purchase a pair (a bit pricey) and see use them in the cinema before the movie is gone. Hopefully they're still up for grabs. Shoot I might just wear them over my regular shades. *LOL* Oakley makes actual shades but I ain't spending $750.00 on that, I can do the $150.00 for the above TR2N 3-D shades though. Heck the design for the regulars shades doesn't look as cool.

http://www.udreplicas.com/ud-products/tron-legacy/sam-flynn-tron-suit/

 

[Mike Shagohod]

In all fairness, you are probably putting more thought and detail into future scenarios than Disney will ever allow for.

As for how Quora could help humanity, there is no need to overly complicate the details. It's enough to know that she exists, and in time the right minds will find a way to apply her genetic code to future generations of humans, thereby wiping out all form of imperfections that shorten lifespans and cause complicated lifestyles.

If they were really ambitious, they'd point out that humanity may not be ready for a society of perfectly healthy specimens. Gattaca was a GREAT example of the pressure different strains of human quality put on society. I'd LOVE for Tron to go to those lofty places in the next installment...but it won't.

BTW, does anyone know if all the 2.0 stuff is canonical? Not that it really matters, but it'd be interesting to know what Disney thinks of Lisberger's many attempts to advance the franchise over the years.

One more thing. I'm SUPER relieved Garret Hedlund didn't accept the role of Captain America.

#1> You're probably right. Though I guess it couldn't hurt to flesh out my idea and possibly present it for "expanded universe" type book? Everyone I've mentioned this too seems to want to SEE this idea manifest into something that's even beyond my own idea.

#2> I think it make an awesome movie. But yeah. Disney would probably dumb it down too much.

#3> As far as I can tell, Canon is as Disney sees it and not Lisberger (sadly). Though I don't know if he had anything to do with the game TRON 2.0 and as things go, "the movies" are what is canon. Though from what I read TRON Evolution is supposedly cannon and takes place in between TRON and Tron Legacy. ---I'm considering buying the game, but a lot of people are saying it controls like shit. I sadly never had the opportunity to play 2.0 Personally (speaking only for me) Canon concerning movie IPs is usually what a movie is showing. Books in an expanded universe is just that, an alternate continuation. And if one has to PLAY video games to understand the overall scope of the IP then that's just bullshit.

http://www.udreplicas.com/ud-products/tron-legacy/sam-flynn-tron-suit/

If I still rode a motorcycle (I haven't since my accident in 2002 ---made the mistake my father told me not to make: "Get back on it tomorrow, if you don't do it soon you never will... he was right) I'd buy that fucking thing in a heart beat, but only if it also lit up in bright blue neon. Yes I'd be the dork doing 110 lit up at night.



Strangely enough there's a guy in San Antonio who has custmoized his sports car to light up in blue neon along the entire frame of the car and even the damn headlights look like what the light cycles jet walls look like! Totally bad ass. Car has the grid patterns along the doors and everything. If I could have caught up with the guy (I drive a Pathfinder these days) I'd have gotten a picture standing next to it or something. I've seen this person on the freeway three times in the last 2 months.

 

[Deuce]

Though from what I read TRON Evolution is supposedly cannon and takes place in between TRON and Tron Legacy. ---I'm considering buying the game, but a lot of people are saying it controls like shit.

It is canon, and basically fleshes out a few details of the ISO purge and Clu going rogue. There's nothing super-momentous that happens that you couldn't glean or guess at from Legacy, though. As for the control, it's... eh. Kind of like a very twitchy Prince of Persia. I've seen worse licensed games, but I'd suggest waiting for a price drop.

 

[Nesagwa]

#1> You're probably right. Though I guess it couldn't hurt to flesh out my idea and possibly present it for "expanded universe" type book? Everyone I've mentioned this too seems to want to SEE this idea manifest into something that's even beyond my own idea.

#2> I think it make an awesome movie. But yeah. Disney would probably dumb it down too much.

#3> As far as I can tell, Canon is as Disney sees it and not Lisberger (sadly). Though I don't know if he had anything to do with the game TRON 2.0 and as things go, "the movies" are what is canon. Though from what I read TRON Evolution is supposedly cannon and takes place in between TRON and Tron Legacy. ---I'm considering buying the game, but a lot of people are saying it controls like shit. I sadly never had the opportunity to play 2.0 Personally (speaking only for me) Canon concerning movie IPs is usually what a movie is showing. Books in an expanded universe is just that, an alternate continuation. And if one has to PLAY video games to understand the overall scope of the IP then that's just bullshit.



If I still rode a motorcycle (I haven't since my accident in 2002 ---made the mistake my father told me not to make: "Get back on it tomorrow, if you don't do it soon you never will... he was right) I'd buy that fucking thing in a heart beat, but only if it also lit up in bright blue neon. Yes I'd be the dork doing 110 lit up at night.



Strangely enough there's a guy in San Antonio who has custmoized his sports car to light up in blue neon along the entire frame of the car and even the damn headlights look like what the light cycles jet walls look like! Totally bad ass. Car has the grid patterns along the doors and everything. If I could have caught up with the guy (I drive a Pathfinder these days) I'd have gotten a picture standing next to it or something. I've seen this person on the freeway three times in the last 2 months.

One of the guys that makes those posts at the prop forum I visit. He was showing off the prototypes that used EL Wire to illuminate them, but the wiring and logistics of having all of that in a consumer product were just too much so they went with reflective strips.

 

[SouthtownKid]

 

[Mike Shagohod]

man I gotta' post that shit up on my FB page.

 

[ki_atsushi]

The hedgehog still has it.

 

[aria]

Too good

 

[Setsuna1982]

Shit, that made my day

 

[Deuce]

Here's an in-depth interview with the screenwriters about the story of the film, the backstory, and the world as it's conceived. It's packed with spoilers, so click at your own risk.

Link

 

[dullbuoy]

how the internet-grid looks like?

 

[Mike Shagohod]

Here's an in-depth interview with the screenwriters about the story of the film, the backstory, and the world as it's conceived. It's packed with spoilers, so click at your own risk.

Link

Nice to see I was right on a few things speculated on. Hmm...

Thanks for the link man.

 

[fake]

Story: Terrible
Dialogue: Terrible
Action scenes: Meh
Set & costume design: Awesome
Olivia Wilde: !!!!!!!

 

[Comrade Porn King Mikhail]

Anyone wanting to see more of Olivia Wilde will be wise to check out Turistas.

I really enjoyed the movie despite the plot inconsistencies and the tenuous pacing. I would have enjoyed more disc battles, some sexual tension between Sam & Quorra, and less visible CGI Clu close-ups. Had this movie been released by Lionsgate or another dark indie label, it would have been epic instead of just above-average.

 

[Igniz v2]

Agreed. Only in the actual film it was MIND BOGGLING when Daft Punk sounds would come in and out for 20 seconds tops or something, then a fucking strings orchestra would resume the totally played out suspense music. Wtf. There is no cutting edge Daft Punk music in the movie - Derezzed is half a song at best and then the other two legit Daft Punk tracks are background music which you can only sort of hear, much less sonically appreciate.

I haven't seen the movie yet but that is 100% Daft Punk, strings and all, because the 20 track album is exactly the same. I'm not sure why people had such lofty expectations, really. It's music for a movie. The trainspotting approach would have been preferable - A sampler of tracks by today's relevant electronic artists.

DP are honestly so full of themselves, they feel they are beyond making or doing anything "conventional" - Leading to a disaster of an album in HAA, a soundtrack NOBODY wanted them to make this way, and years of wasted time "in the lab" while the dance scene routinely runs circles around them, and the fans - inexplicably - sit on their hands and wait forever for them to give them anything, all while proclaiming "GREATEST EDM ACT EVER SAMPLING IS ART TOO". Despite all the haterade I do love them.. Listened to discovery more times than I can count and saw them in 2007, but come on.. they can't coast on how good the show was forever and not be declared "fallen off".

/rant, I'll get out of your plot analysis now