Lagduf said:
I was thinking if I ever owned body armor, maybe get some Type II (the kind that is supposed to stop 9mm + .357 mag) though i'm not sure how big of a vest this would be.
Do you know what the most common arms are being used by american criminals these days? Is it still 12 gauge shotguns and junk pistols in 9mm or .25?
#1> Yeah that's right, I keep saying LV 1 body armor, but it's actually LV 2 body armor that stops most pistol ammo. I have one personally that I use for my job as a Commissioned Security Enforcement Officer [SEO], but I got if off a Constable I used to work with, and it's a LV 2 type that is made to be worn OVER a uniform and/or Tactical "Raid" uniform. It's shit for wearing underneath the standard Class A uniform. That DragonSkin type is what I want, but that'll set you back about $1,000 bucks easily, but it's form fitting and can be worn under the shirt. I had an incident last week (last Tuesday to be exact) where I stopped (2) individuals from breaking into a woman's car, and the two would be thieves in this supermarket parking lot jumped into a Suburban, drove up on me and stared me down making threats. I dismissed them and told 'em to leave... they decided to pull around and make a play.
I waited for the last possible second from the passenger, and sure enough... the bastid had a cell phone in his hand pointing it at me. Thus I never drew my M1911 on them. I would've been within the legal right to have drawn the weapon for their criminal activity and intent, and ordered them out the vehicle, but I stick by my BSG (Brown Shoe Grunt) upbringing that taught,
Be sure, when sure, clear holster and discharge weapon immediately. But these guys weren't done. They told me "it ain't over" and I realized things weren't going to be normal, so I walked out to my car and put on that LV 2 vest, then my winter duty coat (it was cold outside last week). Could barely move from the waist up but I wasn't taking any chances. They did come back, but it was all bullshit.
It's times like this when I feel everyone should have that extra protection. But in my case I'd have rather had a form fitting type. ***As for "criminals" with body armor, yeah man... it was that Los Angeles bank robbery that more or less got the laws changed.
#2> As for what dirt bags on the street mainly carry these days? In truth it varies greatly, but I along with all my LEO buddies on SAPD are damn glad that they don't run around with 12gauge shotguns. For whatever reason, most gang banger types and wreckless youth don't bother with shotguns, which would make hell for Security & Police types.
The main weapons I see on the street are .9mm pistols of various makes and models, shitty revolvers of .38 and .357 calibers, and the occassional .40 and .45 calibers, usually of the GLOCK make on the last part. However, some of the more violent types are running around with AK-74SUs and MAC-10s, and I was there on the East Side (here in SATX) the night a raid was made on the housing project I worked and saw at least 4 Uzis, 10 AR-15s and five AK clones being seized. So the gang banger types do have access to more than just pistols, but it's rare to see them in large use.
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