Jack the Ripper Case Solved by DNA of Older Brothers Great Great Granddaughter
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JTR first met Luke Skywalker in the streets of London when Picard and Harry Potter time travelled there to obtain a rare gemstone, silly not to realise this would confuse the timeline for the lord of the ring movies as gandalf became the King of narnia. Still darth vadar did end up ripping luke, picard and harry back to the borg castle on tattooine by way of the stargate portal stolen from the meddling humans on planet earth. First this upset chief medical offier worf but he came to terms with it when captain kirk kicked his ass in the battle for mordor. JTR, having followed luke and the gang all through these charades finally arrived back in london with help of dumbledor and hermoine except this time he had a murderous rage beset upon him. The elves and cardassians powerless to stop him, JTR ripped and ripped cone after cone from his starbong and finally entered the history books as a serial murderer though who can really say it was JTR when all this time it was Spock lurking in the shadows.
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I'm still waiting for a Jack the Ripper game in an open world victorian London. With state of the art graphics and VR support.
I think wandering the dark streets of old london in VR, searching for Jack would make a suspenseful game. Including adventure parts (analyzing evidents, interviewing witnesses etc.) and action parts (when he's still near the crime scene and you try to chase him).
To stay close to reality and not reveal the identity of Jack to the public, maybe you could die in the last fight together with Jack. Or he dies without revealing his identity (falling into the Thames, or into molten steel, something like that).
Any big publisher here to read this? Get it done.
I think wandering the dark streets of old london in VR, searching for Jack would make a suspenseful game. Including adventure parts (analyzing evidents, interviewing witnesses etc.) and action parts (when he's still near the crime scene and you try to chase him).
To stay close to reality and not reveal the identity of Jack to the public, maybe you could die in the last fight together with Jack. Or he dies without revealing his identity (falling into the Thames, or into molten steel, something like that).
Any big publisher here to read this? Get it done.
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"I cannot self rip. You must lower me into the ripping machine."
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This is actually a great idea.I'm still waiting for a Jack the Ripper game in an open world victorian London. With state of the art graphics and VR support.
I think wandering the dark streets of old london in VR, searching for Jack would make a suspenseful game. Including adventure parts (analyzing evidents, interviewing witnesses etc.) and action parts (when he's still near the crime scene and you try to chase him).
To stay close to reality and not reveal the identity of Jack to the public, maybe you could die in the last fight together with Jack. Or he dies without revealing his identity (falling into the Thames, or into molten steel, something like that).
Any big publisher here to read this? Get it done.
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Alan Moore's From Hell is an absolute masterpiece. Total fiction of course, the Royal Conspiracy with Prince Eddy, Sir Gull and ol' Netley is a fabrication by "Hobo" Sickert (Walter Sickert's (the painter) would-be son) and was fleshed out in its current form by Stephen Knight, a journalist from the East London Advertiser who released his highly influental book Jack The Ripper - The Final Solution in 1976.
It's a fascinating tale of higher powers, secret societies, sex and crime and thus became peoples' #1 choice for the old JTR whodunnit.
Moore brought in a mystical element which was new and very inspiring for me. Great stuff.
Too bad the movie based on the book(s) with Johnny Depp is a bit crappy, maybe not in technical terms, the cast ain't too shabby either, guess you simply can't do From Hell the graphic novel justice within the constraints of a normal entertainment movie.
If you want something visual with a similar plot, the two-part BBC miniseries Jack The Ripper with Michael Caine from 1988 is still a pleasure to watch, acting isn't always convincing but it has that British thing going that is almost totally missing from From Hell the movie, despite its UK cast.
Anyone wanna go deeper? Hit me up for some book suggestions.
It's a fascinating tale of higher powers, secret societies, sex and crime and thus became peoples' #1 choice for the old JTR whodunnit.
Moore brought in a mystical element which was new and very inspiring for me. Great stuff.
Too bad the movie based on the book(s) with Johnny Depp is a bit crappy, maybe not in technical terms, the cast ain't too shabby either, guess you simply can't do From Hell the graphic novel justice within the constraints of a normal entertainment movie.
If you want something visual with a similar plot, the two-part BBC miniseries Jack The Ripper with Michael Caine from 1988 is still a pleasure to watch, acting isn't always convincing but it has that British thing going that is almost totally missing from From Hell the movie, despite its UK cast.
Anyone wanna go deeper? Hit me up for some book suggestions.
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Recently rewatched From Hell for you guys. It was Bilbo Baggins the whole time.
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I don't know, guy's a bit weird, never really got his personality but some of his works is really good.
He also is/was friends with Iain Sinclair, an author and overall great guy who is into psychogeography, a rather strange but interesting field. His book White Chappel: Scarlet Tracings is among the most-valued books of my little library. Parts of Sinclair's work influenced From Hell a lot, specially when Gull and Netley drive around London and visit places of importance.
He also is/was friends with Iain Sinclair, an author and overall great guy who is into psychogeography, a rather strange but interesting field. His book White Chappel: Scarlet Tracings is among the most-valued books of my little library. Parts of Sinclair's work influenced From Hell a lot, specially when Gull and Netley drive around London and visit places of importance.
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Don't you feel like Moore just took all of Sinclair's work wholesale and presented it as more or less as his own story? It's a good comic, no question, but it always felt a little dishonest.
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Sinclair's and tons of other stuff which you can find in that big-ass list of references in volume three (I have the Speed Comics three-volume 2nd edition from 2001). Of course the Royal Conspiracy itself is also not Moore's work but the presentation and storytelling is still excellent, it takes Sinclair's psychogeographical findings and puts them into context with Stephen Knight's conspiracy theory and a wealth of early and (then) current Ripper research and even a bit of JTR fiction. The whole was crowned by Eddie Campbell's amazing art which fits like a glove to the dark and gritty topic. His role always gets a bit downplayed in discussions, it would deserve way more attention because it's tricky to depict the deeds of a serial killer in a tasteful way which he definitely managed to do.
This seems to be a bit of a theme with Moore, so let's say, Sinclair's and Campbell's roles in the creation of From Hell were heavily underappreciated by him in his comments in the books and press interviews.
In a way, Moore created the Necronomicon of Ripperology, you have no idea what its publication caused in the Ripper research and armchair detective community back in the day. Even though everyone knew that there was no Royal conspiracy (Gull wasn't even a mason), a whole new generation of Ripperphiles (if I may call them that) was born in that year who flocked to our nice and quiet Ripper forums and started pestering people with inane babble about homicidal doctors, evil queens, hush-ups and conspiracies until the cows came home, and it still goes on and on, basically since 1976 but things usually intensify everytime a new movie or book comes out.
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Yeah, his art fits perfectly, but the shitty Johnny Depp movie they made highlights the fact that the story's twist ending mostly only works because Campbell's scratchy art style makes all the female characters look the same.
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Heh, scratchy art style, guess that's right why I like it. Tastes, eh. I never had a problem with telling who's who, Campbell kept things close to the little visual evidence we have left from the late Victorian period which mostly consists of mortuary photos, contemporary descriptions printed in various papers and one pic taken on the crime scene (Mary Kelly), only one photo exists from one of the victims (Annie Chapman) while they were still alive. All these women led rough semi-nomadic lives, most of them were alcoholics and resorted to prostitution to earn a bit of money for food and lodging so they had lots of physical traits in common. Combined with their mostly black, white and brown clothing made of cheap cloth and the fact they were of a similar height, the similarities in the comic appear to be intentional.
There was a new release of the comic in 2020 called From Hell: Master Edition with pictorial revisions and it's in colour, looks way more clear, maybe that would be something for you.
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I like the style, too. Even beyond From Hell for which his style fit perfectly, I'm a fan of Campbell's art in other comics. I'm just saying they had to go through elaborate hoops to hide the reveal of the twist in the movie version, because the real life actresses were instantly visually identifiable from each other, whereas in the comic, the reveal was easy to hide because you sometimes couldn't be 100% sure who you were looking at anyway.
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I see what you mean, yeah, Campbell had to make sure not to give things away too soon before the last few panels where Gull's ghost sees Kelly, or what could be her and her daughters or Whitechapel friends reincarnates. The escape story wasn't that elaborated in the comic and I also don't think the movie should have dragged in that silly love affair between Abberline (Depp) and Kelly. Oh white knight, take me away from all this, says the damsel in distress... meh. The affair has its moments when they both visit the museum where Kelly sees the painting of Prince Eddy but other than that, it's a rather blunt way of adding content to a movie which could have been much darker and deeper. Well, maybe not with the Hughes brothers, but still.
I also strongly dislike the fact they combined Abberline and Robert James Lees, the clearvoyant who plays an important role in the Royal conspiracy plot. Abberline has flashes of future events, that and his opiate addiction is so far from reality (or a decent idea for a character for that matter) that it kinda hurts me to watch. I like some of Depp's movies but I think he was the wrong choice as inspector Abberline.
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That movie was full of bad choices. It's probably the main case where I agree with Moore not bothering to ever watch an adaptation of his work.