Bibliophile (Waseem Daker) Murder Case Update

Lagduf

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Never rely on testimony from children. Never.

It depends. You just have to know the child. Often times they won't lie to you per se. They'll tell you the truth: put it will be their perception of what happened, which might not coincide with actual reality.

The foundation of my job is literally talking to children, albeit ones who are severely emotionally disturbed.
 

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Bird lawyers of NG.com, if Waseem had a retrial and was found not guilty what legal recourse would he have? Particularly against Lottie who recanted her testimony.
Didn't she die a couple years back?

I think I remember reading that. Also seem to recall she and Bibs had some kind if relationship after he went to jail.
 

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It depends. You just have to know the child. Often times they won't lie to you per se. They'll tell you the truth: put it will be their perception of what happened, which might not coincide with actual reality.

The foundation of my job is literally talking to children, albeit ones who are severely emotionally disturbed.
If you're interested, here's an article that came out last week about an American teacher in Shanghai who was convicted of molesting his students and has been in Chinese prison since 2014: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/04/...s-china-shanghai-prisoner-intl-hnk/index.html

It's highly likely the guy is innocent. Thing is, young children are very suggestible, especially when interviewed incorrectly. Honestly reading that made me flash back to when I was in third grade, and during a field trip a teacher's husband playfully jabbed me in the shoulder because I was a funny kid. When I came home and told my parents, my mom freaked out and thought I had been physically abused. Then I believed I was physically abused and cried when I told my teacher. Just remembering the whole experience makes me wonder now if I was borderline retarded at that time.

Anyways just an interesting article. And when parents act serious and ask their 5 year old kids if they were abused while police are in the room, maybe they'll make themselves believe it even if it never happened.
 

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If you're interested, here's an article that came out last week about an American teacher in Shanghai who was convicted of molesting his students and has been in Chinese prison since 2014: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/04/...s-china-shanghai-prisoner-intl-hnk/index.html

It's highly likely the guy is innocent. Thing is, young children are very suggestible, especially when interviewed incorrectly. Honestly reading that made me flash back to when I was in third grade, and during a field trip a teacher's husband playfully jabbed me in the shoulder because I was a funny kid. When I came home and told my parents, my mom freaked out and thought I had been physically abused. Then I believed I was physically abused and cried when I told my teacher. Just remembering the whole experience makes me wonder now if I was borderline retarded at that time.

Anyways just an interesting article. And when parents act serious and ask their 5 year old kids if they were abused while police are in the room, maybe they'll make themselves believe it even if it never happened.
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IIRC, Lottie put her house up for sale to raise money for his appellate case...this was all brought up in the 2nd ABC 20/20 special. Tom Llamas did a great job making her look bat-shit insane for doing so.

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It depends. You just have to know the child. Often times they won't lie to you per se. They'll tell you the truth: put it will be their perception of what happened, which might not coincide with actual reality.

The foundation of my job is literally talking to children, albeit ones who are severely emotionally disturbed.
Kids will lie through their teeth to get approval of adults.


Look at this little shit recite words obviously given to him by his psycho parents to blast Batman Returns. Unforgivable.
 

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Yeah I suppose I mean teenagers. I work with teens primarily, some lower functioning cognitively, most lower functioning with respect to social and emotional intelligence.

I forget Lonesage actually works with little kids. Sometimes I call the youth I work with “kids” even though the average age is 16 lol.
 

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Kids will lie through their teeth to get approval of adults.


Look at this little shit recite words obviously given to him by his psycho parents to blast Batman Returns. Unforgivable.

LOL What the actual fuck?

There is no doubt that things are marketed to children that shouldn’t be...but Batman Fucking Returns?

Wow. Fucking looney.
 

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ok, whether he did it or not, it was fuckin' nuts seeing his amatuer attempt at lawyering. I mean he was being dick. We're not talking about the best character here. He should have gotten a better trial but that was on him.

Also, why was his DNA on the scene? Anyone care to explain that? I don't mean that sarcastically either, like genuinely I'd like to know how it got tied to him in the first place.
 

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Also, why was his DNA on the scene? Anyone care to explain that? I don't mean that sarcastically either, like genuinely I'd like to know how it got tied to him in the first place.
The roommate of the deceased was his gf or ex.
 

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On Monday, the Georgia Supreme Court granted Waseem Daker's habeas corpus appeal, and remanded his case to the habeas corpus court with directions that granted it grant him a new Motion for New Trial and a new appeal, and a new determination of eligibility for court-appointed counsel.

We have always believed that Waseem will be vindicated, and this decision is a huge step towards bringing him home.

You can download and view the decision here:

@richardparker I see you are online, how are things recently
 

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This doc + dramatization was published a few months ago. Obviously from a narrative consistent with his conviction(s).

Sorry @LoneSage for the youtubes. #china
 

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This doc + dramatization was published a few months ago. Obviously from a narrative consistent with his conviction(s).

Sorry @LoneSage for the youtubes. #china
Can't watch it in Japan, either. "Uploader has not made this video available in your country." No idea why people do this. Not like it costs them something to make it available to the whole world.
 

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Can't watch it in Japan, either. "Uploader has not made this video available in your country." No idea why people do this. Not like it costs them something to make it available to the whole world.
summary:
he did that shit, guilty as fuck
 

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Oh, well if a youtube video said it, I guess it's settled.
I'm pretty sure it was settled when he was, you know, put on trial for murder and then convicted in a trial where he chose to represent himself like the nutbag he is.
 

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I'm pretty sure it was settled when he was, you know, put on trial for murder and then convicted in a trial where he chose to represent himself like the nutbag he is.
You are the most shit libertarian of all-time. I mean, you really are horrible at it.
 
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You are the most shit libertarian of all-time. I mean, you really are horrible at it.
Maybe the most obvious thing I've ever seen at this site.

And we call each other gay around here all the time.
 
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