The COVID-19 Thread and Hypothetical Boxing Predictions

[smokehouse]

Here in tha Illinois, we're starting to transition back to our offices.

I'm back in the office now, a big bummer, really as I really enjoyed my time working from home. I wish I could do that from now on, truth be told.

As for other businesses here in the state...restaurants are still not allowed to have interior seating. There are other regulations here/there and often them see conflicting. It's a mess.

 

[evil wasabi]

Here in tha Illinois, we're starting to transition back to our offices.

I'm back in the office now, a big bummer, really as I really enjoyed my time working from home. I wish I could do that from now on, truth be told.

As for other businesses here in the state...restaurants are still not allowed to have interior seating. There are other regulations here/there and often them see conflicting. It's a mess.

I like bbq for outdoor seating restaurants in the summer time.

 

[smokehouse]

I like bbq for outdoor seating restaurants in the summer time.

Yeah, depending on the place, I don't mind outdoor seating. This current situation is a mess though. With most places not having true outdoor seating, most just have makeshift picnic tables in their parking lot with a weird fence around the area and besides that they're wide open. You can only have 6 to any table, and if it rains on you...well, tough luck.

 

[evil wasabi]

Yeah, depending on the place, I don't mind outdoor seating. This current situation is a mess though. With most places not having true outdoor seating, most just have makeshift picnic tables in their parking lot with a weird fence around the area and besides that they're wide open. You can only have 6 to any table, and if it rains on you...well, tough luck.

I actually don't advise anyone to take advantage of outdoor seating at restaurants because you can't control how other people interact around you, and you are a bit tied to the table until you pay. If you can smell someone, their breath, their perfume, b/o whatever, they can infect you. And in my area, most people wear masks, but there's always that random wannabe alpha who refuses. Best to limit exposure to them.

 

[LoneSage]

Travel is effectively restricted from Beijing because many places are now requiring a 2 week quarantine once you arrive there from BJ. Fuck me, just a week ago I was thinking it'd be nice to go on a daytrip somewhere.

 

[Arcademan]

And now they're finally clamping down in Arizona. Though the governor did not make wearing a mask mandatory, he left it up to each city government to do so. Tucson, Flagstaff, Mesa and Tempe made it mandatory while Phoenix, Chandler, Gilbert and Glendale will have city council meetings to enact it officially. Scottsdale, which got worldwide attention for their overpacked nightlife and bar scenes and started this mess will be taking a 'wait and see' approach to it. Several restaurants are switching back to carry-out mode and closing dine in service (including my work, which puts my job back in furlough mode) and the three local casinos shut down overnight and will re-evaluate and open back up in two weeks.

 

[evil wasabi]

And now they're finally clamping down in Arizona. Though the governor did not make wearing a mask mandatory, he left it up to each city government to do so. Tucson, Flagstaff, Mesa and Tempe made it mandatory while Phoenix, Chandler, Gilbert and Glendale will have city council meetings to enact it officially. Scottsdale, which got worldwide attention for their overpacked nightlife and bar scenes and started this mess will be taking a 'wait and see' approach to it. Several restaurants are switching back to carry-out mode and closing dine in service (including my work, which puts my job back in furlough mode) and the three local casinos shut down overnight and will re-evaluate and open back up in two weeks.

doesn't sound very effective to have a smoking section (scottsdale) in the hospital.

 

[Lagduf]

We’ve got a mandatory mask order here in effect as of yesterday in California.

Needed for when in most indoor public spaces.

 

[StevenK]

We’ve got a mandatory mask order here in effect as of yesterday in California.

Needed for when in most indoor public spaces.

3/4 months or whatever we are in to this and still there's no mask culture here. Apparently they've now been made essential on public transport (I haven't had to use public transport since this kicked off) but other than that, I might see one face mask a day if I'm out and about.

Britain was asked if they wanted to look slightly odd for a short period of time, or die, and the answer has been unequivocal. I'm also guilty of the same.

 

[Arcademan]

doesn't sound very effective to have a smoking section (scottsdale) in the hospital.

And in a complete about face, Scottsdale made wearing masks mandatory beginning at 5 pm tonight...especially since their infamous 'Whiskey Row' clubs and bars were wall-to-wall people once again last night. Mesa, Tempe, Tucson, Flagstaff all jumped on the mask train. A few other cities were voting on it today, Phoenix most likely will pass it after the weekend and in the far east valley, Apache Junction will NOT enforce a mask policy period.

 

[Lagduf]

3/4 months or whatever we are in to this and still there's no mask culture here. Apparently they've now been made essential on public transport (I haven't had to use public transport since this kicked off) but other than that, I might see one face mask a day if I'm out and about.

Britain was asked if they wanted to look slightly odd for a short period of time, or die, and the answer has been unequivocal. I'm also guilty of the same.

I see about 1/2 the people in the grocery store with masks. Store i go to all employees where masks at this point.

I haven’t really gone anywhere store wise other than groceries or the gas station in about 3 months

 

[Lagduf]

Just went to the store, was impressed. I’d say about a good 2/3 to 3/4 of the people there had masks.

Plenty of ppl still only having them cover up their mouth

 

[wyo]

https://thehill.com/changing-americ...fauci-why-the-public-wasnt-told-to-wear-masks

Fauci admitted he knowingly lied about the efficacy of masks in the beginning. Probably led to thousands of unnecessary deaths and undoubtedly contributed to ongoing confusion and misinformation. Thanks, faggot!

 

[evil wasabi]

https://thehill.com/changing-americ...fauci-why-the-public-wasnt-told-to-wear-masks

Fauci admitted he knowingly lied about the efficacy of masks in the beginning. Probably led to thousands of unnecessary deaths and undoubtedly contributed to ongoing confusion and misinformation. Thanks, faggot!

I don't blame Fauci. The writing was on the wall by January, during which time I sent my sister in Hong Kong a box of masks and medical supplies; and you didn't even need to read between the lines. You either got the science of virus spreading or you didn't bother to read into it. A lot of people just didn't want someone else to be right, I guess.

 

[SonGohan]

I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone here in Oklahoma. People have politicized wearing masks to the point of ridiculing others in public. I've actually heard a guy say "fucking liberals and their stupid masks, go ahead and try to make me fucking wear one." I went to Medicine Park last weekend (tourist place where you can swim, hike, etc), and there wasn't ONE person wearing a mask. There were signs everywhere asking people to practice social distancing (outside and inside of every store) and nobody cared. It seemed to be there only to point to if somebody questioned why people weren't doing it ("you can see the sign, right? I can't make people do it.").

I live in the reddest state in America, and it doesn't help when Trump says shit like wearing masks are a criticism against him. I'm absolutely baffled by how people are acting. I talked with one of my old professors last weekend and he said they're going to be having a meeting about the upcoming semester and it doesn't look good. They're probably all going online. I'm pretty sure my kid will have to resume distance learning as well. It's really fucking weird out here, man. If you walked around my town (Lawton), you'd have no idea that a pandemic is going on.

 

[evil wasabi]

I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone here in Oklahoma. People have politicized wearing masks to the point of ridiculing others in public. I've actually heard a guy say "fucking liberals and their stupid masks, go ahead and try to make me fucking wear one." I went to Medicine Park last weekend (tourist place where you can swim, hike, etc), and there wasn't ONE person wearing a mask. There were signs everywhere asking people to practice social distancing (outside and inside of every store) and nobody cared. It seemed to be there only to point to if somebody questioned why people weren't doing it ("you can see the sign, right? I can't make people do it.").

I live in the reddest state in America, and it doesn't help when Trump says shit like wearing masks are a criticism against him. I'm absolutely baffled by how people are acting. I talked with one of my old professors last weekend and he said they're going to be having a meeting about the upcoming semester and it doesn't look good. They're probably all going online. I'm pretty sure my kid will have to resume distance learning as well. It's really fucking weird out here, man. If you walked around my town (Lawton), you'd have no idea that a pandemic is going on.

Have you tried online teaching? It's pretty good. If you have a good ear and can advise your student to play higher or lower, spot hand placement issues, and posture through video, then you can teach online. I mean, for guitar it's way better than piano, which I don't have faith in the online viability of. But strings? Strings are good online.

 

[SonGohan]

Have you tried online teaching? It's pretty good. If you have a good ear and can advise your student to play higher or lower, spot hand placement issues, and posture through video, then you can teach online. I mean, for guitar it's way better than piano, which I don't have faith in the online viability of. But strings? Strings are good online.

This is entirely dependent upon the student. I've done a lot of it. I don't think strings are necessarily easier if they're a beginner. It can be hard to see their hand placement, and the minutia of playing on the fingertips can be hard to convey. If their overall technique is good, the lessons can go a lot smoother, because then you're just going over application and theory. I used backing tracks in almost all of my in-person lessons, and that's just not possible over something like Zoom, which sucks (or maybe it is, and I just haven't figured it out yet).

I think piano could be viable if the camera placement is right and you had a copy of the music they're trying to play. Piano doesn't have the sort of problems strings does (ie: having to have a good technique just to make good tone), as long as their wrists are curved, they're playing on the tips, and using correct fingering, you're pretty much just listening to them play as you read the music to make sure they're playing it correctly.

My classical guitar teacher in college would just sit and watch me play and analyze/correct me as I played. She never had a guitar in her hands. Over the years I've learned to do the same (teach using my words instead of playing for people), which has prepared me for online teaching. During this pandemic I've learned that there are a lot of ways to make money teaching online, which I may consider to supplement my income. I've taken a hit this year because nobody is hiring session players (because nobody is recording or putting on live shows), so I may turn to more online work.

 

[LoneSage]

https://thehill.com/changing-americ...fauci-why-the-public-wasnt-told-to-wear-masks

Fauci admitted he knowingly lied about the efficacy of masks in the beginning. Probably led to thousands of unnecessary deaths and undoubtedly contributed to ongoing confusion and misinformation. Thanks, faggot!

The leader of the United States saying it was a hoax by the Democrats and that it would blow over by spring did more damage than anything Fauci will ever do by making it political and not leading by example (never wearing face masks). Fauci has been transparent and has given us the facts and what precautions we need to take, it is up to the people to listen and abide by those.

THAT SAID, the whole world got spanked by this virus. I shudder to think of the reaction if Hilldawg was in office.

Also, where does it say in that article Fauci lied? I don't see where you're getting at.

 

[wyo]

The leader of the United States saying it was a hoax by the Democrats and that it would blow over by spring did more damage than anything Fauci will ever do by making it political and not leading by example (never wearing face masks). Fauci has been transparent and has given us the facts and what precautions we need to take, it is up to the people to listen and abide by those.

THAT SAID, the whole world got spanked by this virus. I shudder to think of the reaction if Hilldawg was in office.

Also, where does it say in that article Fauci lied? I don't see where you're getting at.

"masks weren’t advised to the public from the start because of the anticipated PPE shortages"

"Masks are not 100 percent protective. However, they certainly are better than not wearing a mask. Both to prevent you, if you happen to be a person who maybe feels well, but has an asymptomatic infection that you don't even know about, to prevent you from infecting someone else"

"masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE"

“We wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected"

The article is framed to justify the lies. Basically, Fauci is saying the he bullshitted America because we didn't want people hoarding PPE, masks in particular, despite KNOWING THEM TO BE EFFECTIVE AT THE TIME.

 

[evil wasabi]

I don’t get why you bother to focus your ire at Fauci.

Any rational person with a modicum of intelligence would have worn a mask, understood it wasn’t a complete defense to the virus, and not need to hear anything Fauci had to say beyond the severity, infectiousness, and lethality of the virus.

 

[LoneSage]

The article is framed to justify the lies. Basically, Fauci is saying the he bullshitted America because we didn't want people hoarding PPE, masks in particular, despite KNOWING THEM TO BE EFFECTIVE AT THE TIME.

I was telling Americans to wear face masks around March 11 and got downvoted to hell with people telling me, "we need to save them for the medical workers," and "masks aren't effective against the virus you can still get sick." I ended up mailing mom a couple hundred face masks from here. Certainly there were multiple layers of failure at the American response but the federal level failed the hardest.

 

[wyo]

I don’t get why you bother to focus your ire at Fauci.

Any rational person with a modicum of intelligence would have worn a mask, understood it wasn’t a complete defense to the virus, and not need to hear anything Fauci had to say beyond the severity, infectiousness, and lethality of the virus.

The average person is going to follow a leader, any leader, in a time of crisis. I can definitely agree with the argument that no one in their right mind is going to follow medical advice from Trump. Fauci, OTOH, was hailed as a reliable source of information and few in the media questioned anything he said until now. It's another failure in a long line of failures to question anything that doesn't fit the anti-Trump narrative. All we heard for weeks, months even, was LOL Trump got owned by Fauci again. Make no mistake, the Trump administration completely botched the virus response and their was a massive leadership vacuum. However, instead of stepping up to the plate for the good of the country, I think the Democrats figured they would rather sit back and cynically use Trump's failings to their political advantage.

I was telling Americans to wear face masks around March 11 and got downvoted to hell with people telling me, "we need to save them for the medical workers," and "masks aren't effective against the virus you can still get sick." I ended up mailing mom a couple hundred face masks from here. Certainly there were multiple layers of failure at the American response but the federal level failed the hardest.

Agreed. You were right! Unfortunately, there was so much misinformation here, most people were confused. It's not like China. Trust in government has been eroded to historically low levels. If everyone had worn masks from the start, N95 or a bandanna or whatever, I strongly believe the country would have fared much better.

 

[evil wasabi]

The average person is going to follow a leader, any leader, in a time of crisis. I can definitely agree with the argument that no one in their right mind is going to follow medical advice from Trump. Fauci, OTOH, was hailed as a reliable source of information and few in the media questioned anything he said until now. It's another failure in a long line of failures to question anything that doesn't fit the anti-Trump narrative. All we heard for weeks, months even, was LOL Trump got owned by Fauci again. Make no mistake, the Trump administration completely botched the virus response and their was a massive leadership vacuum. However, instead of stepping up to the plate for the good of the country, I think the Democrats figured they would rather sit back and cynically use Trump's failings to their political advantage.

Even taking Trump out of the equation, I don’t understand why anyone cared what Fauci was saying or who he was. There was an entire scientific community on hand, at least a majority thereof, telling people what to do and how to act. We even had Mrmjmjr here for a little bit telling us what was happening, which I guess is just our bubble, but again, Fauci was so insignificant for me and my lifestyle changes under the shadow of Covid 19.

 

[LoneSage]

Even taking Trump out of the equation, I don’t understand why anyone cared what Fauci was saying or who he was. There was an entire scientific community on hand, at least a majority thereof, telling people what to do and how to act. We even had Mrmjmjr here for a little bit telling us what was happening, which I guess is just our bubble, but again, Fauci was so insignificant for me and my lifestyle changes under the shadow of Covid 19.

Because in the end we are animals and we need a person, not a faceless team or organization, to tell us what to do and how to act in times of emergency. This kicks our lizard brains into paying attention to The Leader who has dedicated his life into studying coronaviruses and to work together to listen. I am constantly asked here why Americans still aren't wearing face masks and all I can respond with is "because for some people it's not a pandemic until it affects them personally." The propaganda of showing the worst of America in news here is in full force, it's annoying.

 

[wyo]

Even taking Trump out of the equation, I don’t understand why anyone cared what Fauci was saying or who he was. There was an entire scientific community on hand, at least a majority thereof, telling people what to do and how to act. We even had Mrmjmjr here for a little bit telling us what was happening, which I guess is just our bubble, but again, Fauci was so insignificant for me and my lifestyle changes under the shadow of Covid 19.

The people seriously discussing this stuff here were paying attention and thinking critically. Mjmjr's posts were a better source of information than the vast majority of news articles. Maybe it was different in your area but maybe only 10-20% of people were wearing masks around here for months. That's changed now but the cat's already out of the bag.