I wish MVS people would stop bashing the home system.

[10 in 2010]

RGB is RGB, you cunt.

 

[Zizzer]

Originally posted by Winston Goh:
<strong>

Wow...you want 2 systems??</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hey Winston. Ha ha, no I was referring to the system I bought from you, just waiting for it to arrive

 

[i shot jr]

Originally posted by 10in2010:
<strong>RGB is RGB.</strong><hr></blockquote>

it's not - compare the rgb output from the ps2 with that of the saturn, both rgb but whilst the saturn looks superbly crisp and clear, the ps2 looks ill-defined and washed out.

<strong>you cunt.</strong><hr></blockquote>

agreed on that one, however

[ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: i shot jr ]</p>

 

[ttooddddyy]

Originally posted by Hakkun:
<strong>

ttooddddyy: I avoid everything you say like the plague, so I won't reply to your dumb arguments.


[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: Hakkun ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

But you did my friend, your not on the top of the list for Christmas cards this year, but love you all the same.
Kind regards
Toddy.

 

[candycab]

are you guys still argueing about video stuff ?

If so damn ! give it a rest already guys.

and the only ones I ever see whineing about anything and getting their feelings hurt are AES people , some people like MVS more and think AES is just a plain ripoff , who cares ? get over it already !

Neo is Neo it really doesnt matter how you play it aslong as you enjoy it !

 

[Bishamon]

Wasn't this thread finished over a week ago? *sigh*

 

[EMAGDNIM]

I just want a NGH system <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

 

[m_bish0p]

honestly I went MVS because I already owned two arcade machines. I was OFFERED an MVS...it was the only arcade machine in the area and I bought it after looking on Ebay to see that games were readily available. Then I found this place because GABE from <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com" target="_blank">www.penny-arcade.com</a> pointed at it from his comic.

so, the home system just wasn't really an option for me, but, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, isn't the home system more collectable and geared more for people who want to collect a RARE and KICK ASS game system? Since I've been here, I FELT SECOND RATE.

I thought the AES people were always talking about how cool thier collections were, when all I have is a neo candy 29" and a stack of loose carts. It suites me as a gamer, but it's not collectable.

So, I guess maybe only the people that own both are really happy, and the only system we can all agree sucks is the neo-CD. At least that's the feeling I get from this place, but maybe I'm wrong about that too.

 

[Briggs]

Originally posted by m_bish0p:
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So, I guess maybe only the people that own both are really happy, and the only system we can all agree sucks is the neo-CD. At least that's the feeling I get from this place, but maybe I'm wrong about that too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yup, you are. I have no desire for an AES/NGH system at all. I think you would find quite a few others here who feel the same way.

But then again, maybe it's me who is wrong.

 

[ttooddddyy]

Originally posted by candycab:
<strong>are you guys still argueing about video stuff ?

If so damn ! give it a rest already guys.

and the only ones I ever see whineing about anything and getting their feelings hurt are AES people , some people like MVS more and think AES is just a plain ripoff , who cares ? get over it already !

Neo is Neo it really doesnt matter how you play it aslong as you enjoy it !</strong><hr></blockquote>

I didnt want to bring this up again but noticed that Hakkan took a personal swipe for some reason, so I returned the compliment.
Its interesting how no one has discussed scan line resolution here,especially using PAL.

 

[Lee Gray]

I own MVS and never bashed AES as use to own it myself, if i could afford to still own it i would, sometimes i see new AES titles released half the price of mvs ones on releases and i wishhhhhhhh i stil had aes

 

[djbomberman]

Originally posted by SonGohan:
<strong>This is fucking stupid. Who cares if you play MVS or homecart, in the end it's all Neo. "Oh no, my MVS's video looks better than the homecart version". People have a name for stupid shit like that;

<a href="http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame59.html" target="_blank">Nitpick</a></strong><hr></blockquote>


Oh man...that whole list of flame warriors is fucking hilarious....what's funny is that there are alot of people who fit those categories....

Back to the topic....I have the best of both....I have an MVS cab...MVS kits ONLY...a Phantom Convertor....and an AES sytem that is fully modded. Who really cares? If you don't have space...go with the AES.....

The MAIN reason I went MVS is because I grew tired of all the KOF 2000 AES US being legit release" bullshit

 

[NickD]

Originally posted by Lee Gray:
<strong>I own MVS and never bashed AES as use to own it myself, if i could afford to still own it i would, sometimes i see new AES titles released half the price of mvs ones on releases and i wishhhhhhhh i stil had aes </strong><hr></blockquote>

But a year later you're going "thank god I have MVS" .

Like I said before it's a matter of taste (well for me and others as I can see) so who cares what you own (NGH or MVS) as long as you are happy with it. Personally I'm sure I wouldn't be very good with a joystick on my laps.

 

[Surly Bob]

The AES snobs here don't care about the troof. They just want to feel all special because they payed too much for an outdated home system with the divorce money their guilty dads gave them. Boo hoo hoo.

MVS:
Games not availiable on AES
Cheaper games
Easier to find games locally (and cheaper still than ebay)
Real arcade equipment
Better image quality
Better sound quality
More reliable
Oyeah, and a full cabinet is cheaper then the home system.

AES:
Oooo! Pretty box art!

Gimme a break. MVS r0xx0rs your b0xx0rs.

 

[VinylBoy]

Originally posted by MKL:
<strong>

I basically said a simple and incontrovertible truth, i.e. that MVS has far superior video output than AES and that this is point alone is enough to make it the superior system, period.

Originally posted by Surly Bob:
The AES snobs here don't care about the troof. They just want to feel all special because they payed too much for an outdated home system with the divorce money their guilty dads gave them. Boo hoo hoo.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fuck that... it's about the games. Period. This isn't a sound system. With the Phantom-1, there are literally no more AES or MVS only titles, so there's no need to 'front" on the AES.

On the flipside, I too want to start getting an MVS setup, only because of economic reasons. I've had an AES for about 6 years, and I'm certainly not complaining. For the games that I want immediately, I can purchase them on the AES and play them till the MVS cart comes down. Then, I can sell my AES cart and purchase the other. Once I get the rooms of my apartment redone, I'm going to see about getting a 2 or 4 slot MVS cabinet for my entertainment room (that and a Bubble Bobble Arcade Machine... MUST HAVE!!). This way, i won't have to worry about "collectors" jacking up prices for games, and I can get titles like Breaker's Revenge, Kizuna Encounter, Magical Drop and many more for normal prices.

But does this mean I think the MVS is "superior" to the AES? Hell no... In fact, I'll probably keep my AES system and a good number of of its carts. I won't sell everything once I go from AES to MVS... having both (or at least a Phantom-1) just allows you to play MORE GAMES. That's the most important thing of all... anyone thinking differently is not focuising on what makes the Neo Geo a great system in the first place.

[ October 26, 2002: Message edited by: VinylBoy ]</p>

 

[Surly Bob]

"Just get both" is not a response, it is an evasion. Most people cannot afford both, and should know that if you can only afford one, the MVS is completely and utterly superior.

If N-G is "just about games", then MVS wins. There are NG games only availiable on MVS. Every game on AES is easier to find on MVS too. Don't think this is important? Well then you are just a spoiled kid. The rest of us want to get the most out of our game buying dollar. (not to mention our valuable time)

Everything AES has, MVS has and better. Wanna use that clunky Neo controller? Go right ahead. Wanna waste 20 bucks on a memory card with no game support? Knock yourself out. At least now you can afford it, since you are paying waaay less then your snobby AES counterparts.

Thats why the AES snobs pretend that MVS owners are no better then rom kiddies. They secretly have buyer's remorse, and think of all those games they could be playing if they weren't so dumb that they bought that ugly buggy famicom.

 

[VinylBoy]

Originally posted by Surly Bob:
"Just get both" is not a response, it is an evasion. Most people cannot afford both, and should know that if you can only afford one, the MVS is completely and utterly superior.<hr></blockquote>

An AES system can be had for about $100-$200. A bare 2-4 slot can be sometimes sold for slightly a little more. If people can afford two AES carts (on release), they can definitely afford both systems. And ideally, this would be the BEST way to go.

Think of it this way... Rage Of The Dragons came out on MVS first at a price tag well over $1500. The price for the MVS doesn't drop to normal levels for at least a year, so you purchase the AES version for $325 and play the game until the MVS cart DOES drop. Then, all you do is sell back the AES cart (which you can get most of your money back for) and purchase the MVS cart instead. The benefits are obvious... you still get your games in a timely fashion to play them when they're new, you get to make most (if not all) of your money back once you sell the AES, and you can purchase the cheaper MVS and continue enjoying the SAME GAME. ESPECIALLY with games like Garou, which somehow went UP in price. If I sold my Garou now, I would make close to double what I originally paid for it. Then, I can buy the MVS version and STILL make a profit.

I'm certainly not evading the issue... I know how to look beyond the things that are presented to me, and can put together a scenario that will show even more benefit.

If N-G is "just about games", then MVS wins. There are NG games only availiable on MVS. Every game on AES is easier to find on MVS too. Don't think this is important? Well then you are just a spoiled kid. The rest of us want to get the most out of our game buying dollar. (not to mention our valuable time)<hr></blockquote>

Son... I'm probably older than you. Take the whole "spoiled kid concept" and shove it.

With the Phantom-1 converter, there are no more "MVS only" titles. You can play these games on the AES with them with little to no problems. As of late, I don't think there were any games mentioned on MVS that can't be played using the converter, so this argument no longer stands.

Everything AES has, MVS has and better. Wanna use that clunky Neo controller? Go right ahead. Wanna waste 20 bucks on a memory card with no game support?<hr></blockquote>

That clunky controller is one of the best ones ever made. I've been through 10 different home video game systems (which all still work), and not once in my seven years of owning an AES have I had to replace any of the joysticks. They were mare properly... all you have to do is get used to laying a controller in your lap instead of holding it like a hand held. That's just an issue of taste.

New games like ROTD also have Memory Card support... so your argument on how the memory card is useless also has no merit as well. Besides, most people NEVER use it.

Thats why the AES snobs pretend that MVS owners are no better then rom kiddies. They secretly have buyer's remorse, and think of all those games they could be playing if they weren't so dumb that they bought that ugly buggy famicom.[/qb]<hr></blockquote>

Heh... keep dreaming. I'm not rich by any means, but trust me... I have enough games in my 22 years of video gaming that I can demonstrate and show which can make your precious MVS look pale in comparison. When you get past the fact that you may have an arcade machine in your home, the deciding factor is the amoung of fun games you have.

I own an AES and do know the benefits of owning an MVS. However, I'm not a "snob" who puts down the other, for ideally having both is the best thing to do. Instead of calling people names for preferring another format, just come to grips that for some people the AES is the way to go for now. When it boils down to it, it's ALL the Neo Geo. And that's more important than any sound output or look.

[ October 27, 2002: Message edited by: VinylBoy ]</p>

 

[Average Joe]

Look people, no need to argue over such a trivial matter.

MVS is better.

Why?

It just is, ok?

 

[MKL]

Originally posted by VinylBoy:
<strong>Fuck that... it's about the games. Period. This isn't a sound system.</strong><hr></blockquote>

hmmm...so when I was talking about the RGB output I was talking about sound, eh?

Oh boy boy <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" />

 

[xzibit190]

I really LOVE my candy cab mvs system its great having an actual arcade system and everything but over all if your into collecting and like to go places the AES is where its at. Yeah sometimes you pay more but hey MVS carts are way more expensive when they first come out. I say they are both great and since Ive got both im never gonna complain or put anyone down. anything NEO is great so who ever puts down someone else for having an AES over an MVS or vice versa is just an ass so screw them...

 

[Galford Forever]

Why isn't this thread dead yet?

 

[VinylBoy]

Originally posted by MKL:
<strong>

hmmm...so when I was talking about the RGB output I was talking about sound, eh?

Oh boy boy <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I never SAID that an RGB output was related to sound. Read that post again. I said that all that stuff is irrelevant for it still boils down to the GAMES. The extras are just icing on the cake to the main purpose of video games.

With your judgement, a system with only 2 good games is better than one with 20 all because the system with fewer games have better sound and video outputs. Youc an see just how ridiculous this sounds.

Focus on the REAL reason why people use an AES or an MVS... the GAMES.

[ October 27, 2002: Message edited by: VinylBoy ]</p>

 

[MarrymeMai]

Originally posted by Galford Forever:
<strong>Why isn't this thread dead yet?</strong><hr></blockquote>

'Cause I create kwality! <img src="graemlins/loco.gif" border="0" alt="[Loco]" />

 

[MKL]

Originally posted by VinylBoy:
<strong>I never SAID that an RGB output was related to sound. Read that post again.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've read it: you quoted a bit where i was talking about the video output and your comment was: "this isn't a sound system" LOL!

Glad to see you know what RGB is... <img src="graemlins/glee.gif" border="0" alt="[Glee]" />

Originally posted by VinylBoy:
<strong>With your judgement, a system with only 2 good games is better than one with 20 all because the system with fewer games have better sound and video outputs. Youc an see just how ridiculous this sounds.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry but I don't see how this would follow from my words. And your comparison (2 vs 20) makes no sense here: the AES and the MVS have practically the same (amount of) games but on the latter they look better than on the former. Simple as that.

Originally posted by VinylBoy:
<strong>Focus on the REAL reason why people use an AES or an MVS... the GAMES.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The GAMES, the GAMES...wow, what a decisive point you have here <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" /> ...but since the AES and the MVS have the same games I think it right to focus on the system that makes them look better.

[ October 28, 2002: Message edited by: MKL ]</p>

 

[VinylBoy]

Originally posted by MKL:
I've read it: you quoted a bit where i was talking about the video output and your comment was: "this isn't a sound system" LOL!

Glad to see you know what RGB is...<hr></blockquote>

Again... you didn't get the point. I wasn't focusing just on your comment about RGB. Throughout this entire RETARDED thread, morons like you are speaking about how the MVS system SOUNDS AND LOOKS better than the AES, which is supposed to make it far superior. What I was saying is that ALL of that is irrelevant. Which is why I quoted more than just ONE PERSON... something else you obviously ignored. I didn't have the time to sit here and copy/paste all of the BS that is coming out of people's mouths in here. But, if you weren't trying so hard to look at the small faults in my paragraphs, you would see what I was trying to get at.

The GAMES, the GAMES...wow, what a decisive point you have here <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" /> ...but since the AES and the MVS have the same games I think it right to focus on the system that makes them look better.<hr></blockquote>

Considering that there are some old 8-Bit games that look, play and sound better than some of the Neo Geo titles out there, I think that's a moot issue. Throughout the history of video games, it has been proven that the system with the best titles beats out their competition. Which is why systems like the GBC, a handheld which hardware is inferior to other competitors like the Turbo Express, Atari Lynx and even the Sega Nomad could still survive... which is why a game for the PC-Engine could be released over 5 years after it's "dead" in Japan for the first time and sell out in hours...

You're desperately trying to make your own precious collection of video games seem so much greater than everyone else's... that's why you're screaming about the MVS and it's "superior graphical output" and it's "clean, crisp sound output". I'm certain that if someone took a completely modded AES system, and set it up with a pristine home entertainment system... you can get sound and video quality that rivals (if not beats) the MVS. But even so, that's all a bunch of "extras". Samurai Shodown II looks, sounds and plays the same way on the MVS or the AES. A person who is truly focused on the games wouldn't care about anything else.

The MVS or the AES. When it boils down to it... it's ALL the Neo Geo. So what you need to do is stop acting like a jealous high school jock who goes into a public shower with a ruler to see if he's the biggest... for anything else besides the games is IRRELEVANT.

[ October 29, 2002: Message edited by: VinylBoy ]</p>