I wish MVS people would stop bashing the home system.

[MKL]

Originally posted by Hakkun:
<strong>To me putting a cab into my room is a pain, while a simple console is the perfect way to enjoy my games. This applies to many other people.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Man, I respect what you say...but let me tell you that it's an immaterial objection to my point because it is based on a preconceived idea, i.e. that a cabinet and a motherboard are inseparably tied together like body and soul. A MVS motherboard CAN be viewed and used as home-console: multi-slot models have joy ports, so you can play with AES sticks, the 2-slot even has the memory card reader and headphone jacks, i.e. all the features an AES has. No surprise that !Arcade! adapted them for home use (the Shadow 4).
And when all is said and done there still remains my original point, which is a fact and not an opinion: their RGB video output is superior to that of an AES.

 

[Galford Forever]

Originally posted by MKL:
<strong>

Man, I respect what you say...but let me tell you that it's an immaterial objection to my point because it is based on a preconceived idea, i.e. that a cabinet and a motherboard are inseparably tied together like body and soul. A MVS motherboard CAN be viewed and used as home-console: multi-slot models have joy ports, so you can play with AES sticks, the 2-slot even has the memory card reader and headphone jacks, i.e. all the features an AES has. No surprise that !Arcade! adapted them for home use (the Shadow 4).
And when all is said and done there still remains my original point, which is a fact and not an opinion: their RGB video output is superior to that of an AES.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm still cheerfully pointing out that my AES system hooked up to an X-RGB2+ and a nice monitor produces a clearer picture than my cab. That is a fact, and not an opinion.

 

[MKL]

Originally posted by SonGohan:
<strong>sure, it's a video game, but I care first and foremost about gameplay, not whether or not '*gasp*, it has jaggies!'</strong><hr></blockquote>

LOL! Countering your "arguments" is a joke! Like arguing with a 5 y/o child... Tell me one thing: why don't people just use an RF cable then? Why do they want a S-Video mod? Why do Europeans want an RGB scart cable? the gameplay remains the same...so come on, let's all use the good ole RF!

Man, you're a joke!

 

[Galford Forever]

<a href="http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame29.html" target="_blank">http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame29.html</a>

I love how you've managed to select only the arguments you wish to fight. He's just trolling the boards guys.

 

[ttooddddyy]

Originally posted by Hakkun:
<strong>"$1.500 for a Metal Slug??? I got my MVS copy for $20!"...

Seems like AES collectors are totally stupid while he is the smartest guy in the world!

<img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

The first sentence is purely a statement of fact. Take it or leave it.

The second is open to debate. Which is what we are doing.

 

[SonGohan]

Originally posted by MKL:
<strong>

LOL! Countering your "arguments" is a joke! Like arguing with a 5 y/o child... Tell me one thing: why don't people just use an RF cable then? Why do they want a S-Video mod? Why do Europeans want an RGB scart cable? the gameplay remains the same...so come on, let's all use the good ole RF!

Man, you're a joke!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sigh, I guess I'll bite since I have nothing else better to do

I use an RF cable and A/V cables. It makes no difference to me. I've never cared about a/v cables. I'm not anal enough to argue about it on a bbs either. The gameplay does remain the same.

I guess you argue with a lot of 5 year olds since you're so keen on identifying them right away.

 

[MKL]

Originally posted by SonGohan:
<strong>I use to eat shit and chocolate. It makes no difference to me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

 

[SonGohan]

 

[BeefJerky]

MKL who the fuck are you? You aren't good at arguing (obviously) because you have to stoop low enough as to edit other people's posts. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

As for the whole homecart vs. MVS argument... Hey, I'm just happy to own a NeoGeo in some form.

 

[MKL]

Originally posted by Matt Semmel:
<strong>MKL who the fuck are you? You aren't good at arguing (obviously) because you have to stoop low enough as to edit other people's posts. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I have argued enough, just read my other posts, you lazy sod.

What am I supposed to say to someone who denies the difference between an awful video output and a good one? What??? That's exactly like claiming that shit tastes as good as chocolate. So my editing was totally appropriate. Get lost, you prick!

 

[SNKJorge]

Well the MVS people are cool most of the time, those ports fuckers are the most annoying ones, it hurts my stomach everytime they say a DC port is better than its AES daddy. FUCK OFF.

[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: xtoo_short20x ]</p>

 

[SonGohan]

I didn't deny anything you retard. I just said it doesn't matter to me. My main argument is about you and your "well it has better video so it automatically makes it a superior system". You can't even argue your point without side-stepping other people's posts and avoiding what they say only to attack something else".

<a href="http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame60.html" target="_blank">http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame60.html</a>

Read it good.

 

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by SonGohan:
<strong>This is fucking stupid. Who cares if you play MVS or homecart, in the end it's all Neo. "Oh no, my MVS's video looks better than the homecart version". People have a name for stupid shit like that;

<a href="http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame59.html" target="_blank">Nitpick</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

Nitpick? I disagree!

I don't care about video output quality and all this other shit. I care about PRICE. Moolah, Cash, Denero, $$ Cha-Ching, G-Money-Cash!

When you get THE SAME GAME for a fraction of the price, well then um yeah, I'm going to with MVS.

Peace

JHendrix

 

[SonGohan]

price isn't nitpicking
in fact I would say that's a major factor that plays into the role of somebody buying anything

however using the "mvs has better video than homecart so it's superior" is nitpicking
regular homecarts do not look so bad as to be unplayable
having the crisp, clear, enhanced graphics is a luxury (one that can be had with both systems), but is not the basis for one being better than the other

even so, with all this being said, you are getting the same game for a fraction of the price with MVS, as you have stated.. however, you're paying a lot more for the homecart games because of their presentation.. nice artwork, manual, and cart.. something that looks like it belongs in your home

mvs is cart, label, and a little marquee.. looks like something that's being advertised.. not saying one is better than the other either.. in fact, I plan on dipping into the MVS scene as well in the near future.. both formats have great things to offer, but if we all were only interested in playing the games, we'd sit and play roms all day because it's the same game for free.. we all like owning SNK products, and obviously in different formats as shown here.. and there's nothing wrong with either one of them

 

[NGT]

I have an AES, just spent $338 on ROTD, which is more then I have ever spent on a game in my life!!

When I finish college and get a real job, I should easily be able to pick up a RED ORIGINAL MVS stand up machine with a 4 or 6 slot MVS motherboard in it....

but I am not getting one because my AES is not as good, I am getting one because I want an ARCADE machine....with some great games! I will only get the games for the MVS that I can't afford for the AES...like Ninja Masters, Mark of the Wolves, Waku Waku 7, Metal Slug, and a few others....

other then that, I am more then happy with my AES!

and like the fact that it fits in my entertainment system

In the end, they are both great! and both have plus's.....

...and my AES blew my friends minds!!! They love it!!!! My girl plays it with me every once in a while, and she likes it as well.....

all the bashing is simply done by those who want to feel better about themselves or make themselves feel better then another neo owner...

whatever, I don't care.....

 

[Hakkun]

Originally posted by ttooddddyy:
<strong>

The first sentence is purely a statement of fact. Take it or leave it.

The second is open to debate. Which is what we are doing.</strong><hr></blockquote>

ttooddddyy: I avoid everything you say like the plague, so I won't reply to your dumb arguments.

I don't give a fuck if MS MVS costs less than the AES counterpart and I don't give a fuck if you paied it only 20 bucks. You obviously are not better or more intelligent than me. But you think so! AMAZING.

[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: Hakkun ]</p>

 

[Hakkun]

Originally posted by MKL:
<strong>

Man, I respect what you say...but let me tell you that it's an immaterial objection to my point because it is based on a preconceived idea, i.e. that a cabinet and a motherboard are inseparably tied together like body and soul. A MVS motherboard CAN be viewed and used as home-console: multi-slot models have joy ports, so you can play with AES sticks, the 2-slot even has the memory card reader and headphone jacks, i.e. all the features an AES has. No surprise that !Arcade! adapted them for home use (the Shadow 4).
And when all is said and done there still remains my original point, which is a fact and not an opinion: their RGB video output is superior to that of an AES.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ok, this is what you think. I'm into AES but I will never say AES is better... this because no one can say it for sure.

What I'm trying to point out is that there's no need to say this is better than that. Take what you like and/or suits your needs the most and live happy.

Then let's talk about the games...

 

[SNKJorge]

MVS and AES owners shouldn't fight!!!!!!!! come on guys!!! PORT idiots should fucking fuck off.

 

[ForeverSublime]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x:
<strong>MVS and AES owners shouldn't fight!!!!!!!! come on guys!!! PORT idiots should fucking fuck off.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I no longer dislike you.

 

[RabbitTroop]

Originally posted by MarrymeMai:
<strong>Yeah, so I've got an AES. I'd rather have an MVS, but I don't have the space. The AES isn't nearly as impressively massive as the MVS. I know very well that I am paying more for less; why does it have to be rubbed it? I never get any positive comments on my AES from friends. I'm sure they would freak over an MVS. I could have Puzzled running on MVS and everyone would love it, whereas I could have KOF 98 running on AES, and everyone would be, "MY PS2 could mop the floor with this thing!" Virtually all I ever hear here is anti-home system, and I feel as though home system owners are thought of as "second rate," and it just pisses me off. I have to tell myself that I am not a second-rate Neo gamer, because I have the "vastly inferior in every way" home system. I feel kinda bad about my AES as it is; it's just not impressive at all, and I've spent a fortune on it. Hearing more inflammitory stuff here doesn't help. At least I'm going to get a Phantom-1 for it. That should make it far more economical.

Just expressing my feelings.

[ October 05, 2002: Message edited by: MarrymeMai ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


No way... if anything it is the MVS people who are called second rate. I think 95% of the people here believe AES is the true sought after thing... they will say the artwork, and the price alone of carts makes it a collectible. I have always felt like MVS was referred to the poor mans Neo Geo... The bastard people here. Whatever, sorry you feel that way, in the end be happy with what you have and go on with it.

I have to agree with the cab vs system thing though when impressing friends. I am sure my friends would laugh their head off if I bought a $200 - 300 game and was playing it on my TV.... But in the cab I could have the crappiest game and people thing it is incredible (case in point, burning fight). So... You get the idea. But again, as long as you like it, tell them to fuck off

-Nick

 

[SNKJorge]

<<I no longer dislike you.>>

Yes help me, to let these people see that the MVS and AES are like brothers!!!!!! ports are something different they are not bad, but not better.

[ October 07, 2002: Message edited by: xtoo_short20x ]</p>

 

[MVS Fanboy]

!"Enter the MVS Fanboy"!

 

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by MVS Fanboy:
<strong>!"Enter the MVS Fanboy"!</strong><hr></blockquote>

The Force is strong with this one...

You must train hard my young Padawan.

Peace

JHendrix

 

[Wan-Fu]

Originally posted by Galford Forever:
<strong>

I'm still cheerfully pointing out that my AES system hooked up to an X-RGB2+ and a nice monitor produces a clearer picture than my cab. That is a fact, and not an opinion.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think this was a good counter argument.

By the way, what kind of monitor are you using? I have an X-RGB2+ on the way and would like to use it with an LCD instead of the standard CRT monitors. The LCD monitor I am thinking of getting pivots to portrait mode so it will be perfect for playing vertical shooters.

 

[BeefJerky]

Originally posted by MKL:
<strong>

I have argued enough, just read my other posts, you lazy sod.

What am I supposed to say to someone who denies the difference between an awful video output and a good one? What??? That's exactly like claiming that shit tastes as good as chocolate. So my editing was totally appropriate. Get lost, you prick!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Okay dipshit, only casual gamers care about graphics. As long as no gameplay is lost (like with ports), then it doesn't matter! <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" />