It is crazy that so many Rural Americans came out for this guy who has never lived in Rural America, has no connection to rural america and looks down on rural america.
With all due respect: Why did 72 million Americans vote to reMAGA? (A thread for healing.)
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Are you describing Reagan?
FDR?
Without FDR, most Tennesseeans would never exist.
You mean all the people that moved to Tennessee right?
Because he definitely tried to make sure the ones that were there already couldn't exist anymore.
Malaria, and cholera before it, was doing that before FDR was elected.
Who can watch the administration/campaign's (is there a difference?) actions in the aftermath of the election and, sincerely, see either nothing out of the ordinary (something that "both sides" would be doing) or a legitimate attempt to fight election fraud?
Who can see either of those things, instead of an incumbent trying to nullify an election in order to remain in power?
If he were to succeed, what could you possibly call that, aside from the end of American democracy?
How myopic would you have to be to dismiss concern over this as "orange man bad?"
Who can see either of those things, instead of an incumbent trying to nullify an election in order to remain in power?
If he were to succeed, what could you possibly call that, aside from the end of American democracy?
How myopic would you have to be to dismiss concern over this as "orange man bad?"
Doesn't 'If he were to succeed' look so unlikely as to be basically just a scare tactic though? He is getting almost nothing as far as I can tell through the various lawsuits. He'll get recounts that he is entitled to ask for sure, but the counts are so far apart that even with significant vote changes, he still won't see a change in outcome. He's throwing a hissy, but until I see something actually happen, this just forestalls the inevitable.
What about the recounts he wasn’t entitled to?
Sorry, you'll have to enlighten me on which ones those are.
Like I said in the 2020 thread, I don't think that the likelihood of success should be how we calibrate our response. The president's entire term was defined by open attempts, not to circumvent or erode, but to end, the rule of law.
I would call those attacks qualitatively and quantitatively more severe than ones we've seen from previous administrations.
The legislature has put the burden of mitigating these attacks on "the courts," all while confirming judicial appointees who make that less and less likely.
That's what we're depending on when we dismiss these schemes.
A legitimately won second term would be terrifying enough on its own. Can you imagine a stolen second term?
As shitty as Biden's going to be, and he is going to be shitty, I can't understand people who think it's pilled to see him as nothing more than a different asshole.
I would call those attacks qualitatively and quantitatively more severe than ones we've seen from previous administrations.
The legislature has put the burden of mitigating these attacks on "the courts," all while confirming judicial appointees who make that less and less likely.
That's what we're depending on when we dismiss these schemes.
A legitimately won second term would be terrifying enough on its own. Can you imagine a stolen second term?
As shitty as Biden's going to be, and he is going to be shitty, I can't understand people who think it's pilled to see him as nothing more than a different asshole.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/automatic-recount-thresholds.aspx
If he's not entitled, then it should be a moot point.
But it seems like it's not a moot point, which makes me wonder about the rule of law in the country.
Judges may be tossing these cases out, for now, but think about how many judges just got sat by this guy who has displayed contempt for the law throughout the election process, and how eventually one of these types of cases will land on the desk of a judge that was sat via contempt of the law.
It's a scary thought.
I relied too much on what people thought about me that I lost focus of my true self.
This can't be more true.
Wait, so it was just a matter of semantics? That's a lot less interesting than I had hoped.
what did you think I was going to talk about?
I thought there was a state where he got a recount when he didn't otherwise qualify. I thought I missed something.
You have been so far behind the 8ball on this authoritarian shitshow going back to 2016.
By the time people like you "see something actually happen", it will be too late.
-When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time
Haha, maybe I'll come back and join the Resistance if that happens.
If your re-election strategy depends on a constitutional crisis, a total disregard for the policies and procedures in place and people you have installed in courts..... You might be a dictator
And yes, 72 million+ people (such as lagduf's friend) are for this.
Authoritarianism works.
People wonder why Joe Biden's support among black people slipped to Willie Horton era numbers.... Black people are authoritarians too (actually a lot more of them than 12%).
Hispanics?
-Lots of Authoritarians
Authoritarianism works. In 1980, people susceptible to authoritarian messaging were pretty evenly split between the major parties. Authoritarian susceptible people have slowly drifted towards the republican party. Donald trump has galvanized, coalesced and empowered them.
And yes, 72 million+ people (such as lagduf's friend) are for this.
Authoritarianism works.
People wonder why Joe Biden's support among black people slipped to Willie Horton era numbers.... Black people are authoritarians too (actually a lot more of them than 12%).
Hispanics?
-Lots of Authoritarians
Authoritarianism works. In 1980, people susceptible to authoritarian messaging were pretty evenly split between the major parties. Authoritarian susceptible people have slowly drifted towards the republican party. Donald trump has galvanized, coalesced and empowered them.
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