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Same here. I don't mind not being part of the Q1 crop as I would really like to see what people's thoughts are of the unit hands-on and get a proper indication of what the battery life is really like.
 

oliverclaude

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China doesnt pay for games.... There is no market for gaming in china unless it's based on a subscription or is controlled by tencent.
Your "unless" is worth billions to any foreign company that makes it there. Below is a quote from an informative Guardian article. It mainly covers China's censorship, but also offers an insight in their gaming history and... stunning figures:

China is the world’s largest market for the world’s largest entertainment industry. Today, the number of Chinese gamers, about 740 million, is bigger than the entire populations of the US, Japan, Germany, France and the UK combined. Its domestic market is worth more than $45bn a year. Yet, for decades, China has had a stop-start relationship with the entire industry.

Sure, any foreign gaming companies looking to operate in China are legally obliged to have a local partner and besides Tencent, there's also another giant with NetEase. But this seems not to bother those foreign companies. It's defining that even Japanese Big N coupled with Tencent to distribute their Switch there.

According to this article, neither Tencent nor NetEase are in control, though. It's all CCP. That doesn't change the fact, that China is neither all-white nor all-black. It's like anywhere else in the world, all kinds of grey, only multiplied by 1.4 billion. And since there's no way around China, there's an urge not to be biased towards it, but to cultivate what's good there. I admit, it's a tough job with limited chances for success but let us at least be more comprehensively informed about that country. I think that article is a good start, while your reply isn't.
 

NeoSneth

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According to this article, neither Tencent nor NetEase are in control, though. It's all CCP. That doesn't change the fact, that China is neither all-white nor all-black. It's like anywhere else in the world, all kinds of grey, only multiplied by 1.4 billion. And since there's no way around China, there's an urge not to be biased towards it, but to cultivate what's good there. I admit, it's a tough job with limited chances for success but let us at least be more comprehensively informed about that country. I think that article is a good start, while your reply isn't.

Yeah, it's all CCP, and at any moment they can take your market away from you. Especially a digital market. It's happened over and over to foreign companies that entered China without paying the CCP like a mafia boss. Look up what they did to Uber. You make for a terrible argument to promote in china. You absolutely can go around China... Every console has done that for decades. Just because the NBA and film industry are kowtowing to the CCP, doesn't mean it's a requirement to have a viable business.
 

oliverclaude

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You absolutely can go around China... Every console has done that for decades. Just because the NBA and film industry are kowtowing to the CCP, doesn't mean it's a requirement to have a viable business. Just because the NBA and film industry are kowtowing to the CCP, doesn't mean it's a requirement to have a viable business.
You can, theoretically. Except with so much money at stake, my guess is no one will want to, just as nobody did in the past. Your NBA and Hollywood are only the tip of that iceberg. Talking about the latter reminds me of a fitting quote from Ridley Scott's Body Of Lies: "Do we belong there? Do we not? It doesn't matter how you would answer that, because we are there". Foreign automobile, armaments, construction industries... you name it. They're already there. I welcome your optimistic opinion about circumventing China, I'm just not that much an optimist. As always, time will tell.
 

SML

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Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition was rated gold in Wine version 1.5.0. I can only get it to run through proton on systems with integrated graphics.

Now, that's a game that's no longer sold in the steam store, so maybe it shouldn't count, but I really want to see someone test Valve's claims about what the deck+proton will be able to run.
 

RBjakeSpecial

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I did a preorder on this. I really like the idea and if I can hook arcade sticks up via USB when I have to travel for work it might be great. I also have this idea that I'll suddenly play all of my old games I never finished. The idea of having Baldur's Gate II and some of the other old classic RPGs on the go is nice.

I hope it's good.... Crusader Kings III on portable might ruin my life.
 
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