New Star Wars stuff announced

[famicommander]

I can't remember the name of anyone in Rogue 1.

The robot was the best character.

I do recall "I am one with the force and the force is one with me."

Cassian Andor is the main dude, who is also the main dude of the TV series. Jyn Erso was the main chick. K-2SO was the robot. Saw Gerrera was Forest Whitaker, but again, he had a history in the cartoons and novels beforehand.

 

[HornheaDD]

Chirrut.

Dude was a badass Jedi without being a jedi and I'm bummed we wont get to see him again. Plus its Donnie Yen, so fuck anyone who badmouths him.

 

[famicommander]

All he does is repeat the same line over and over until he explodes. Doesn't even qualify as a character.

 

[lithy]

His name was Chinabait.

 

[Taiso]

I can't remember the name of anyone in Rogue 1.

The robot was the best character.

I do recall "I am one with the force and the force is one with me."

Facts. The only thing I liked about that movie.

 

[jeffkun34]

Alan Tudyk was redeeming himself for Sonny in I, Robot.

That reminds me I need to go watch the rest of Resident Alien.

 

[T.A.P.]

I thought Rogue One was ok, at least compared to Episode 7 (the last movie I had seen at the time), although it wasn't that great and I've forgotten most of it now.

It had a nice looking space fight at the end, I guess?

I didn't like that they turned the Death Star's weak point from a simply over-looked mistake to a deliberate design flaw by one guy who openly hates the empire and apparently had no one checking his work for traitorous tendencies.

I dunno, a suposedly invincible foe defeated in part due to their own hubris strikes me as a better narrative choice than 'secret good guy deliberately made a weak spot.'

 

[T.A.P.]

It still just floors me to this day that they knew they were going to make a trilogy of new movies, and didn't at any point bother to plan anything out, not even as a rough outline.

You just spent billions to buy this! You're not going to take even rudimentary steps to set yourself up for success and insure your investment remains safe and productive? Hell, you already plan the shit out of everything for Marvel.

 

[Lagduf]

It still just floors me to this day that they knew they were going to make a trilogy of new movies, and didn't at any point bother to plan anything out, not even as a rough outline.

You just spent billions to buy this! You're not going to take even rudimentary steps to set yourself up for success and insure your investment remains safe and productive? Hell, you already plan the shit out of everything for Marvel.

This is what happens when your corporation is creatively bankrupt.

I wonder if there were suits clamoring for a return on investment as soon as possible after the purchase?

 

[Taiso]

This is what happens when your corporation is creatively bankrupt.

Morally bankrupt as well. A soulless corporation doesn't want to romanticize mythic themes. This is what happens when you hire sycophants and activists to produce your work. There was an agenda and they were going to force feed us that agenda and then weaponize our reaction against us.

I wonder if there were suits clamoring for a return on investment as soon as possible after the purchase?

I would hedge against that theory. Disney paid 4 billion but half of that was in stocks. Disney's revenue was over 42 billion the year that they bought Lucasfilm.

I think it's risky to craft narratives when we don't know anything about the inner workings, but if I had to 'go there', I'd say that it was never about the LFL properties but about the market that they thought came with it.

The ensuing acrimony between Disney and Star Wars fans smacks eerily of a baron upset at the peasants for not just falling in line with the mandate.

 

[Lagduf]

I’m watching Mando season 3 right now and they mention Grand Admiral Thrawn. If I’m not mistaken Thrawn has been in one of the animated series?

It’s just wild to me they poached a beloved character from the Extended Universe novels, stated the EU was not canon, and then inserted him in to the main continuity.

Does Timothy Zahn make any money from Thrawn appearing in subsequent Star Wars projects? I’m not sure how the rights like that would work.

Anyway, creatively and morally bankrupt.

Mando S3 not bad otherwise. I have one or two more episodes I think.

 

[famicommander]

I’m watching Mando season 3 right now and they mention Grand Admiral Thrawn. If I’m not mistaken Thrawn has been in one of the animated series?

It’s just wild to me they poached a beloved character from the Extended Universe novels, stated the EU was not canon, and then inserted him in to the main continuity.

Does Timothy Zahn make any money from Thrawn appearing in subsequent Star Wars projects? I’m not sure how the rights like that would work.

Anyway, creatively and morally bankrupt.

Mando S3 not bad otherwise. I have one or two more episodes I think.

Zahn himself published two new Thrawn trilogies set in the new continuity beginning in 2017. And yes, Thrawn has appeared as a major character on both the animated series Rebels and its live action follow-up Ahsoka, and also in the animated Tales of the Empire anthology. Zahn had input on the visual design and voice for his appearance in Rebels and the creators of Rebels sent him all their scripts in advance so they could coordinate on continuity with his books.

 

[Lagduf]

Did not know about the new Thrawn books. So they’re canon?

I had not considered that people were writing books in the new continuity. Are these canon or like the old EU just canon until Disney says otherwise? lol

 

[Lagduf]

I guess I was on the last episode lol.

Honestly I enjoyed the season and I think it was a perfect ending for the entire series.

Not sure what they hope to explore via a movie.

 

[famicommander]

Did not know about the new Thrawn books. So they’re canon?

I had not considered that people were writing books in the new continuity. Are these canon or like the old EU just canon until Disney says otherwise? lol

The overwhelming majority of the TV shows, books, video games, and comics they release are canon. They have retconned a few minor details here and there but otherwise it's canon unless they tell you up front it's not. Whenever there's conflict obviously the movies and TV shows win out but it's not like the old EU where stuff is just constantly retconning older stuff.

 

[Lagduf]

@famicommander so what’s the story in the Mando movie even going to be about?

 

[famicommander]

@famicommander so what’s the story in the Mando movie even going to be about?

They're keeping it pretty close to the vest. They wrote a fourth season of the show but the 2023 writers strike made them pivot to a movie. All we know about it really is the cast. Mando and Grogu are in it, Sigourney Weaver has an unknown role, Jonny Coyne is playing some Imperial dickhead, and a couple of CGI aliens from the animated shows (Zeb Orrelios from Rebels and Rotta the Hutt, son of Jabba, from Clone Wars) will appear.

 

[Lagduf]

They should have just stopped at the end of season 3.

Mando and Grogu outside the cabin was the perfect ending.

 

[famicommander]

They should have just stopped at the end of season 3.

Mando and Grogu outside the cabin was the perfect ending.

Most of the rest of us could've done without season 3 as it is.

But they're doing a movie because it's the safest movie they can make right now. Which is probably a bad reason to make a movie.

 

[Lagduf]

Season 3 was fine though it felt like the plot to a video game or the retelling of a Tabletop RPG campaign.

In some ways the season wasn’t even about Mando and was just a vehicle to tell the story of the Mandalorians but it wasn’t quite as well done as say Road Warrior or Fury road in using a character to tell a story about someone else.

I have other criticisms but honestly I just don’t care that much I guess. I know more Star Wars garbage will be pumped out.

I just really liked the damn ending though and wish it stopped there. Less is more/let us use our imagination.

And most importantly thank fucking Crom they only went to tattooine one fucking time for a single scene.

Also I’m still hard gay for Katee Sackoff.

 

[famicommander]

Andor, Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, Tales of. That's the Star Wars you should be watching.

 

[Lagduf]

I’ll probably watch Andor next.

But give me a show about the separatists and how they were actually right that the new Republic and Jedi were dogshit.

Was Count Dooku actually a true believer in the separatist movement? Or was he in on the whole thing with Palpatine?

I really don’t want to rewatch the prequels.

 

[famicommander]

I’ll probably watch Andor next.

But give me a show about the separatists and how they were actually right that the new Republic and Jedi were dogshit.

Was Count Dooku actually a true believer in the separatist movement? Or was he in on the whole thing with Palpatine?

I really don’t want to rewatch the prequels.

Dooku's motivations are covered extensively in both Clone Wars and Tales of. He starts out with genuine gripes about the Jedi and the Republic and genuine concern for his people but is slowly corrupted by his anger which eventually turns into lust for power.

His plan was to recruit Obi-Wan as his own apprentice and use him to overthrow Palpatine, but he was already evil by that point and would've just ended up Emperor himself had he succeeded.

There are good and honorable Separatists portrayed in Clone Wars, as well as many that are just as evil as the Sith.

 

[Lagduf]

Ugh.

You’re convincing me I need to watch Clone Wars, fuck you.

Might have to do it just for that.

 

[famicommander]

Ugh.

You’re convincing me I need to watch Clone Wars, fuck you.

Might have to do it just for that.

Just make sure to watch it in chronological order instead of release order:

Star Wars: The Clone Wars Chronological Episode Order | StarWars.com

Lucasfilm presents the official sequential order for the beloved animated series, including all 121 shows and the original feature film.

www.starwars.com

And remember that each successive season is substantially better than the previous one in terms of both storytelling and technical presentation, with the end of season 7 being some of the best Star Wars out there. It can drag a bit for parts of season 1 but they figure it out pretty quickly.