Retro Gamer magazine's terrible Metal Slug feature --reviewed!

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norton9478

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From the mouth of Stu:

The IP thing is super-weird. Firstly, nobody noticed this apparently glaringly obvious ruse for 28 pages, even though nearly all the twats are mods who could see IPs on every post. Secondly, they didn't even bother making the post numbers add up on their fake screenshot. d.


See, he admits to a ruse.... But then tries to say that the screenshot is doctored... Now that doesn't make sense... What would be the point of doctoring a screenshot to show the truth?

And nearly all of us twats are apparently mods. News to me.
 

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Well, I just sat down and read the article. Let me start off by saying I love Retro Gamer. I found out about FunSpot from them and where else can you read about classic games rather then the latest games. I hate how some of you guys are putting the whole magazine down because of one article.

As one of the schmucks said on his site, I do have a problem with the price. 15 bucks and tax is a lot for a magazine. So I only really get it when it looks good, or when something like this happens.

As you'll know, I'm not that good with my grammar and spelling, so your not going to get a nice elaborate post that Bobak did. But I think he summed up the whole thing pretty nicely.

And no, it's not because he's the admin of the site, I could give two shits about that, I could care less if he or another mod banned me off the site because I disagreed with another person's point of view.

The whole thing was a mess for me reading it. I don't care because it's called "The Definitive" because that's just a name of the feature in the magazine, so I'm not going to dock him points because of that. There's not one mention of the company that made it, which I would personally love to know more about, because there really isn't a lot of info about them. (If anybody got some good links, post em' I'd like to read them)

The whole thing with Fat and Mummy mode in Metal Slug 2 was ridiculous. Even when I do get hit and turned into a mummy, I laugh, go on and get the antidote. Then he said X was just used to take a quick buck from everybody? Well call me an asshole, because it's one of my favorites.

With 3, the worst thing about the game is how bad it drags on at the end of the game. I love the branching paths and the first boss fight isn't game breaking as they put it in the magazine. If the end didn't drag out it would have been one of my favorites.

I didn't really care for 4 or 5, but I did like the new Slugs in 5 but not even one mention of the slide feature? It's like he keeps harping on the mummies, zombies and fat mode, but I hated trying to jump and shoot down and sliding off the stage or into something.

He didn't really mention Clark and Ralf and the new combo system that's in 6 or 7, but then again, didn't care much for 6 either, but I really need to sit down and play all of them now that I have the PS2 Anthology.

7's good, but not THAT good. I enjoyed it and it is a lot better then Advance is, but I don't get a whole Pokemon vibe from it like he said. Anytime there's stuff to collect I always think of Rare made games, but that's just me.

I think out of all the "The Definitive" articles, I think this was my least favorite. I know a lot of the later games in the series weren't up to par with the first games, but you don't put the game and fans of the game down from the very start in the first few paragraphs.

So that's my take and I'm sticking to it. I look forward to this getting picked apart by everybody and the rest of the White Knights. :vik:
 

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Crikey.

I am amused that at one point, Stu is described as being the sort of Englishman who would casually use the word 'Paki' in conversation. Firstly because this goes to show that they really haven't done their research. Secondly, because within the first couple of pages, someone casually uses the word 'nigga'. You wacky Canadians!

The thread is only a handful of pages in before the self-congratulatory forumite back-slapping begins, as it always does. I especially liked, "Stu was a writer with a strong rep, but Neo-Geo.Com tore him down. No worries mate, you're not the first, nor the last." I've not seen such a laughably premature call on victory since 2000, in Florida.

It takes only a few pages for the argument to turn from "Stu is unprofessional, he has not done his research", to anal disagreements over what does or does constitute a zombie. This is especially amusing, in light of those accusations of childishness, particularly when later, Stu is taken to task for given an example of a popular movie which supports his argument. How foolish, when Professor Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Zombies" is still so widely available. That Stu did not read every available text-book on zombism before writing his guide to the Metal Gear series ('Yes, I know. But it IS funny' - Ed.), is truly inexcusable - that kind of research is basic, man. Rendered moot of course by mummies being a type of zombies, but still, inexcusable.

To quote 'lithy', "When in recorded history have you seen a bandage wrapped zombie that can be killed by another bandage wrapped zombie with additional contact from their expelled fluids?" Sir, I ask, when you have seen one that cannot? Perhaps some of us have just lived fuller lives than thee.

Apparently Stu should not be disgracing Retrogamer (of which he is suddenly a staff member), because now, see, a group of forumites who admit to not buying the magazine, won't buy it. Those that are aware that magazines are still printed on paper, that is, which seems to not be many, judging by the comments. How ironic that so many of them would throw around accusations of childishness, when they themselves don't seem to have even left the house in years. That would the hyper-obesity's fault I suppose - the only place you'll see more slowdown than Metal Slug 2 is in watching the typical Neo-Geo forumite trying to get out of a chair.

Shut the fuck up.
 

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This asshole goes all over the internet to stir shit up: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/metal-slug-7-review/comments

Look at his shit ass comments on a negative review of MS7. He shits up every site he visits.



lol at the videogame 'champion' who plainly dislikes MS3 because it's just too damn hard.

Anyone who prefers MS7 over 3 is clearly mentally retarded, and their opinion should never be taken seriously. Ever.

Christ, I know newbies to the Neo library that got into the Slug series with the PSX port of MSX, and even they agree that 7 was an average attempt at best. MS3 shits all over it.

:oh_no:
 

Praise the Lard

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I like to make images too, ya know.

stuartcampbell_killscreen.jpg


Represent your love for the Stuart Campbell Defense Force, in style.

In reference to:
"Stuart Campbell first entered the world of videogaming in 1977, when he won a home Pong console in a competition he didn't enter held in a town he hadn't visited. He was the UK's National Videogames Champion in 1988 (having previously won the Scottish title), and a member of the UK's winning European Videogame Championship team in Paris in 1990, subsequently retiring from competition undefeated "to give everyone else a chance"."

http://www.123exp-biographies.com/t/00031178699/

BTW it only makes sense if you've seen King of Kong
 

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Crikey.

I am amused that at one point, Stu is described as being the sort of Englishman who would casually use the word 'Paki' in conversation. Firstly because this goes to show that they really haven't done their research. Secondly, because within the first couple of pages, someone casually uses the word 'nigga'. You wacky Canadians!

The thread is only a handful of pages in before the self-congratulatory forumite back-slapping begins, as it always does. I especially liked, "Stu was a writer with a strong rep, but Neo-Geo.Com tore him down. No worries mate, you're not the first, nor the last." I've not seen such a laughably premature call on victory since 2000, in Florida.

It takes only a few pages for the argument to turn from "Stu is unprofessional, he has not done his research", to anal disagreements over what does or does constitute a zombie. This is especially amusing, in light of those accusations of childishness, particularly when later, Stu is taken to task for given an example of a popular movie which supports his argument. How foolish, when Professor Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Zombies" is still so widely available. That Stu did not read every available text-book on zombism before writing his guide to the Metal Gear series ('Yes, I know. But it IS funny' - Ed.), is truly inexcusable - that kind of research is basic, man. Rendered moot of course by mummies being a type of zombies, but still, inexcusable.

To quote 'lithy', "When in recorded history have you seen a bandage wrapped zombie that can be killed by another bandage wrapped zombie with additional contact from their expelled fluids?" Sir, I ask, when you have seen one that cannot? Perhaps some of us have just lived fuller lives than thee.

Apparently Stu should not be disgracing Retrogamer (of which he is suddenly a staff member), because now, see, a group of forumites who admit to not buying the magazine, won't buy it. Those that are aware that magazines are still printed on paper, that is, which seems to not be many, judging by the comments. How ironic that so many of them would throw around accusations of childishness, when they themselves don't seem to have even left the house in years. That would the hyper-obesity's fault I suppose - the only place you'll see more slowdown than Metal Slug 2 is in watching the typical Neo-Geo forumite trying to get out of a chair.

Here's the thing, it's a bit tough to have a competition when the other opponent, and his doppelganger, have left the building. Though more then likely you are him and he is you. Or you're just one of the surviving members of the white knights.

Stewie has done nothing more then fall to the ground while viciously flailing his arms and legs about like the pretentious and childish twat he is because someone didn't stroke his e-cock. This entire thing started because Bobak didn't like the article and mentioned some glaring oversights. Instead of taking the opportunity to explain himself in a "professional" way, he sinks down to the low level of ankle biting and name calling.

So while you're busy waxing poetically about our obesity and other such mindless chatter, the fact remains, old Stewie owned himself. And that my friend is what makes this all the more humorous.
 

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It would appear Stu spent the last some odd hours researching how to spoof an IP address, or perhaps he simply drove far out of town to use a friends computer.

A shocking turn of events indeed. Welcome aboard nam1972, but more over welcome back Stu!
 

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@ this thread:

:oh_no: :help:

I don't think I've ever seen a bigger waste of time in my life than this... Ever...
 

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@ this thread:

:oh_no: :help:

I don't think I've ever seen a bigger waste of time in my life than this... Ever...
You're sucking the win out of this thread. Go bitch about how "rare" Metal Slug homecarts are.
 

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I don't think I've ever seen a bigger waste of time in my life than this... Ever...

Is it irony that we're reading such a correct assertion from you, of all people?
 
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Even this shitty Gametap retrospective on Youtube, for all its inaccuracies, contains way more pertinent info about this series in 5 minutes. I especially love the voice, bullshitting on about the weapon system and peregrine whatever.
 

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Because it would have been fucking boring. A list of dates and names and tedious shite about one company taking over another one's IP.

And that's it.

I'm a little late but here goes.

Yes, why list dates, names and facts relevant to the history of what you are discussing when people who are really interested in that sort of shite can get it for free on the internet? Which why me and many other people won't buy the magazine. Ever. Because unless you can provide something that we can't already get free in better quality and with new details then people won't buy it.

I think you guys at Retro Gamer have lost sight of why your target market would buy the magazine. While I might be interested in reading it, I'm not going to pay for it, because you offer me nothing I can't get for free. If you leave out silly details like dates, in a magazine about the history of something then you have only one reason to read it and that is for someone's opinion on the games. Once again, you are defeated by the millions of opinions on the internet for free. So before you decide not to include things you consider 'stupid' and 'nerdy' consider this; people who are into retro games obviously don't care about other people opinions, because it's not like having old video games has ever made anyone cool. And that leaves you with one thing to write about, facts. Leave them out and people will get what they really want for free.

It would be nice to get it in a high quality package, but until you get those really nitty gritty details in there, your quality hasn't surpassed what I read here everyday.
 

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I still remember the first time I played 2 and my reaction to seeing those aliens for the first time. It was bliss.
 

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don't know if it's been posted, but is there a scan of the article or something.
I typically believe bobak is good at his word when commenting on things,
and this stu fellow seems to be a pretty caustic guy that shouldn't be allowed on the internet,
but I'd like to see for myself.
 

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I've been reading a good bit of this and I don't have much I can add.

I think though one point that seems to me that should have been considered is that if you have a limited amount of time, words, and space for a piece in a magazine, then it seems that the topic you cover should be one that is small enough that it can be covered well in that space.

The idea to have a section that informs people about a game series seems pretty cool to me. Though if it is a small space them maybe covering a smaller series would be better. Maybe MS was not the best choice for the limited space.

Also I've not gotten to read the article, however from what I have gathered here I should think the idea was it is to be more for entertainment than information. I guess that is how it is with game magazines though these days where there are so many free reviews and information sites about every game out there. One has to write something and make it interesting so having someone with a harsh opinion on something does tend to catch attention.

If the saying is true that there is no such thing as bad publicity, well then I guess all of this may have caused some people to want to go out and get a copy of the magazine, though it may well have caused some people to care less about it as well. Who can say.

As far as what has been going on here. I am a bit confused I guess.

So After reading in a magazine the work of this "Stu" fellow where he gives his opinion about some gameness, one of our members did not much care for what he had read. That member then posted a review of the work and it was rather critical but that was his opinion.
Members on the boards here read the post and gave their thoughts on the matter.

In the normal world that is usually the end of such things.

However, in this case something strange and unusual happened, and this is what throws me off a bit. Call me crazy but I don't quite get it.

This "Stu" fellow reads what our members wrote and decides he does not like their opinion, much in the same way one of our members decided he did not like the opinion given in the magazine article he had read. Mr. "Stu" takes offense to this and then formulates a response and posts it on the boards here.

Now I can understand where he is comming from to a point. I try to take pride in my work. I care about the things I put my effort in and it feels good when the things I do are well recieved, just as it can hurt a bit when they are not. I don't like to fail or fall short of my goal, let people down, or make mistakes. I think that is how most normal and good willed people are. With that being said, I know that I can not please everyone. I try to please the people who are imporntant to me, such as family, friends, customers, and my boss. Though beyond that, when it gets to people I don't know, have not met and may never meet it does become less imporntant. Because everyone has their own opinion of things, I know I can not please everyone and that it is foolish to try. So when people who are imporntant to me are critical of my work, I tend to try and reflect on the matter and see if I was really wrong or not and do what is needed. It may hurt my feelings but, that is a part of life and I get over it. When people I don't know or really care all that much about, (beyond the respect one should have for others) are critical of my work, I honestly don't care much at all.

So If someone on a message board I never met, am not a regular member of, and know nothing about had something harsh, critical, hatefull, or insulting to say about me. I honestly think that after finding out about it, I may be a LITTLE upset and then there would be a small moment where I would be curious as to what the hell it was all about. I may look into it even to see if there is some substance to what they have to say. Though really, and honestly, I can't imagine that I would actually care all that much about it. I would just go on with my life, because what people talk about on some little message board does not really have much if any impact on my quality of life. For the most part it is all just opinions that do not matter to me and this is where I am puzzled by our "Stu" fellow, not that he came here, not that he had something to say in his defense, but because why did our little board even matter to him?

Someone somewhere in another part of the world had something bad to say about something he had done. Someone A thousand miles away had an opinion on his work that was negative and voiced it to people on a message board that he does not frequent or (to the best of my knowledge) even care about, and he took offense to that, to the point where he came here and posted such things. It really does not make any type of sense to me. It does not seem like the workings of a rational or professional mind.

Now mind you that is not what is really upsetting about this whole affair.

It is not so much that he came here and posted but what he posted.
This forum is a community, though I admit it may not be much of one at times but still at least to me it is. That being to some degree, I care about the people here and am interested enough in the goings on here to read their posts and hear their opinions and conduct business with them. I care about my standing in the community here and what goes on here as well. It may only be a web forum, I may not have been here all that long, but none the less I am a part of it and proud of that fact.

Now to Mr "Stu." with your very first post you've come here and addressed me, a person you do not know, who knows nothing of you, who has never read your work, and has never had an opinion of you or your work, as an "Idiot and a dull obsessive nerd" and I say this was directed at me because I am a member of this community and I took the time to read what you had to say here in our community rather than if I were an outsider comming to peek in and see what was going on. I'm not sure what I've done to give you such an opinion of me and under nomral conditions I would not care, however what you have done here is much the same as comming into my house and taking a shit on my floor. Such a thing under normal conditions would not sit well with me. I am offended, but not to such an extent that I would go and make a huge name calling fuss about it. Being a normal person I understand that is quit pointless to get into an argument with people on line about things like name calling, still though I must say that your original post was in very poor taste.

Now I believe there was some form of tiny appology for such language, but It was meaningless and unheartfelt. I only say that because of the tone carried through the later posts, now I can understand it could be that way and one could be bitter due to the prodding that was being given by members here, but once again, comming into someones home and making a stink tends to get people upset.

Yet still, of all things this is not the worst or hardest to understand.

When I read through the posts made by the user named strider. I find myself even more confused.

I find it odd that as a member of the magazine in question would have anything to do with this argument. The idea to come here and clear things up I believe to have been a good honest one but really I don't think it was for the best. (Mind you this is just my opinion) To then stand by a person as he continues to stir up a fuss in a place where nothing should matter that much to him also seems a bad decision.

The magizine in question is an entertainment. It is not one I could get here where I am without a subscription. None of the local places carry it, so I've not gotten to see it. However because it is about retro games and such, I would be interested in reading it. If one were around I would be happy to pick it up and look through it. That being said if it was something I liked then I may subscribe to it. I get a few magazines from time to time, and it is fun to get things in my mail box. It gives me something to look forward to.

However, because of the way Stuart has acted on this forum I have no desire to read his work. I would have no desire to subscribe to a magazine that featured his work as that would be paying for content that I did not want. Much the same as not wanting to see a movie if you don't care for an actor or director. Though he may not be directley connected to the magazine, by comming here to support him it in a way does. I'm not saying I would have ever been a subscriber, but I am saying that I've no reason now to become one. That may not mean much as I am just one person, but chances are there are more that feel the same as myself.
Does and will it make a hill of beans difference, I don't think so.
When comments were made here by Darran, that connected Stuart to the magazine, and that made his rant here seem to go from being an angry venting, to unprofessional actions as a indirect party of the publication. Much the same way that in some lines of work one can have conduct unbecomming of their position in their outside of work hours and it have an effect on their position.

I agree that this is not the proper place for Darran or anyone else envolved on the magazine end to address any issue with his behaviour here, for the same reasons that it is not a place to explain his actions, stance, or approve of his work. That become unprofessional. As the opinion of a few people here, have little to more than likely no effect on the magazine, there is no reason for anone there to become involved, other than to aleinate, current and potential readers.

So would the proper response to all this be for me to go to Stuart's web fourm or the magazine's if they have one, and address everyone as idiots and nerds and then continue to be hateful and rude for a day or two?
How would the members of said forums take to such?

If I were trying to sell a product that you don't NEED. If I came into your home, insulted you, acted rude and hateful, would you buy from me?

I know Stuart is not selling the product, but it is his work that makes up part of the body of what is being sold, and in that sense one would be buying his product, as well as the product of others in one handsome package.

So I ask...

What was there to gain by this?

That is what does not make any sense to me.
 

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Highly unlikely.

The IP address picture was essentially his Hiroshima/Nagasaki.

Oh well. 20,000+ views and nearly 900 replies within 3 days. Epic shit.

Too bad. Who knows? We could've even had the "What color is the sky?" debate with Stu.
 

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This probably is a waste of time but I try it anyway...

Crikey.

I am amused that at one point, Stu is described as being the sort of Englishman who would casually use the word 'Paki' in conversation. Firstly because this goes to show that they really haven't done their research. Secondly, because within the first couple of pages, someone casually uses the word 'nigga'. You wacky Canadians!

The thread is only a handful of pages in before the self-congratulatory forumite back-slapping begins, as it always does. I especially liked, "Stu was a writer with a strong rep, but Neo-Geo.Com tore him down. No worries mate, you're not the first, nor the last." I've not seen such a laughably premature call on victory since 2000, in Florida.

It takes only a few pages for the argument to turn from "Stu is unprofessional, he has not done his research", to anal disagreements over what does or does constitute a zombie. This is especially amusing, in light of those accusations of childishness, particularly when later, Stu is taken to task for given an example of a popular movie which supports his argument. How foolish, when Professor Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Zombies" is still so widely available. That Stu did not read every available text-book on zombism before writing his guide to the Metal Gear series ('Yes, I know. But it IS funny' - Ed.), is truly inexcusable - that kind of research is basic, man. Rendered moot of course by mummies being a type of zombies, but still, inexcusable.

To quote 'lithy', "When in recorded history have you seen a bandage wrapped zombie that can be killed by another bandage wrapped zombie with additional contact from their expelled fluids?" Sir, I ask, when you have seen one that cannot? Perhaps some of us have just lived fuller lives than thee.

Apparently Stu should not be disgracing Retrogamer (of which he is suddenly a staff member), because now, see, a group of forumites who admit to not buying the magazine, won't buy it. Those that are aware that magazines are still printed on paper, that is, which seems to not be many, judging by the comments. How ironic that so many of them would throw around accusations of childishness, when they themselves don't seem to have even left the house in years. That would the hyper-obesity's fault I suppose - the only place you'll see more slowdown than Metal Slug 2 is in watching the typical Neo-Geo forumite trying to get out of a chair.

This thread was done for on page one after Stu's first post. When I read Bobak's original post and then Stu's heated reply, I knew what would happen - dozens of pages of mudthrowing. Call it immature and buddy-buddy all you want, it wouldn't have happened had Stu shown a bit of the professionality he claims to have and addressed the OP's points in a cool and calm way. Besides, the fake account- and calling-friends-to-the-rescue thing wasn't exactly mature as well, maybe it is in England but the rest of the world only was one word for it: Pathetic (or "traurig" in my case :) ).

Call us obese lowlifes all you want, nothing is going to change the fact that Stuart made an idiot of himself.
 

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What a monster post Joe. I actually read it all as I found it to be well worded for the most part. I agree with almost all your viewpoints. While I didn't expect Darran to outright demean Stuart Campbell in this topic, I was genuinely surprised by the lack of a "PR statement" -- something along the lines of "Stuart's views are his own and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of others involved with the magazine." Perhaps I missed it though? I sure as hell don't remember it. I do remember Darran partaking in mummies vs. zombies though.

And even though he did say "I can only apologize for any bad language Stuart uses" back on page 2, throughout this thread he replied to other posters in a matter that I personally thought was beneath someone of his stature. As Jedah pointed out earlier, Darran's silence more or less condoned Stuart's actions. Darran continued posting in the same thread addressing OTHER matters while Stuart's behavior only got worse and worse, so it's not like Darran WASN'T aware of what was going on.

It's like being a teacher and witnessing your teacher's assistant verbally abuse a student. Guess what, if you say nothing to address it, you're pretty much condoning the TA's actions. But maybe that's just me. It's one thing to be Stu's colleague and let his behavior slide (still bad, but at least understandable). It's entirely another to be his superior (which I believe Darran is) and let his behavior carry on for as long as it did without some sort of PR statement.



So I ask...

What was there to gain by this?

That is what does not make any sense to me.


Stuart = raving lunatic with too much ego and not enough common sense. So in his sick twisted mind he saw this as a battle he had to win, and eventually, he turned it into a war. One in which, at the end, he got fuckin' NUKED.
 

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Steve,
I take a different view on this. I believe Darran of Retro Gamer has handled the situation professionally and I don't see his "silence" as a gesture of condoning Stuart's actions in this thread. In contrast, Darran's silence is the best defense to protect his own and his magazine's interest.

Darran is an editor so I don't think it would be wise for an editor to speak on behalf of the owner of Retro Gamer or the magazine as a whole. It would be very foolish to publicly criticize Stuart's MS article or behavior here. Remember, once it's said/written, it's out there.

Darran is certainly aware of what's going on. I am sure the management at Retro Gamer will be informed of the incident as well. Stuart is a freelance writer so we don't know his contract/agreement with Retro Gamer. Anyhow, whatever action Retro Gamer takes/will take doesn't need to be explained- at least in this thread.

While I didn't expect Darran to outright demean Stuart Campbell in this topic, I was genuinely surprised by the lack of a "PR statement" -- something along the lines of "Stuart's views are his own and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of others involved with the magazine." Perhaps I missed it though? I sure as hell don't remember it. I do remember Darran partaking in mummies vs. zombies though.

And even though he did say "I can only apologize for any bad language Stuart uses" back on page 2, throughout this thread he replied to other posters in a matter that I personally thought was beneath someone of his stature. As Jedah pointed out earlier, Darran's silence more or less condoned Stuart's actions. Darran continued posting in the same thread addressing OTHER matters while Stuart's behavior only got worse and worse, so it's not like Darran WASN'T aware of what was going on.

It's like being a teacher and witnessing your teacher's assistant verbally abuse a student. Guess what, if you say nothing to address it, you're pretty much condoning the TA's actions. But maybe that's just me. It's one thing to be Stu's colleague and let his behavior slide (still bad, but at least understandable). It's entirely another to be his superior (which I believe Darran is) and let his behavior carry on for as long as it did without some sort of PR statement.
 
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