SNKPlaymore give up Atomiswave

Fygee

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Its likely the reason they went with the Atomiswave instead of the Naomi was SNKP turning in a favor from Sammy, as was hinted at earlier.

Sammy, at the time, was trying to push itself into the arcade/video game world, and what better way to do so than with an arcade flagship brand like SNKP? They knew that they wouldn't need crazy hardware requirements (or, to be honest, ones that were even on the middle end at the time), and could therefore make popular games with hardware that's cheap to make. The bonus is advertising Sammy's name on every game/board that's sold, either through the Sammy or Sega name.

SNKP benefits from not having to spend a lot of money in R&D for a successor to the Neo-Geo, they get to move to hardware they're reasonably familiar with, piracy no longer becomes an issue, and they get the benefit of Sammy/Sega's as a stable international distributor (sorry Europe, you got the shaft on that one). No doubt there's a lot of financial deals made between the two that have allowed SNKP to get out of debts incurred from the name, and to pour money into the development of more mainstream console games which they likely wouldn't have had.

As a result, the death of the Atomiswave is just a means to an end of the original deal of the relationship. I'm sure SNKP will either jump over to whatever new hardware Sammy/Sega develops, or develop their own Neo-Geo successor to be supported by Sammy/Sega brands.

That said, they've only made 5 Atomiswave games (NeoWave, NGBC, Tenka, KOFXI, and MS6), and they're contractually obligated to at least 6. That means there's at least one more game coming before the AW gets the chop.
 

J0e Musashi

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Fygee said:
That said, they've only made 5 Atomiswave games (NeoWave, NGBC, Tenka, KOFXI, and MS6), and they're contractually obligated to at least 6. That means there's at least one more game coming before the AW gets the chop.

MOTW 2, gotta be a Fatal Fury title anyway.
 

Stifu

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J0e Musashi said:
MOTW 2, gotta be a Fatal Fury title anyway.
Or SS6 Special. :p

SS6 is just not good enough to end the series (or at least the part of the series that uses those character sprites, in case they ever make a brand new 2D SS game afterward)... Plus they hinted at the fact they plan to make more SS games...
Wishful thinking.
 

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The Neo is dead. Dead. Dead. Dead. Let it stay dead.

The days of developing a game projected to bring in $2-300+/unit only to have it dumped and stolen by thousands on the Internet the next day are over, and they need to stay over. SNK could try to better copy-protect its carts, but that would eventually get cracked too. Pirates would hack through any protection, because for most people, especially on the Internet, the name "Neo*Geo" is basically synonymous with "old, dead, emulated games to download for free." They think they're entitled to free Neo games, because they've had easy access to them via ROMs and emulators for years. You expect me to pay money for new Neo*Geo games? That's an outrage! They won't admit it, but that's how a bunch of people on these very forums would react.

The Neo as a hardware platform for new games would be worse than a money pit at this point. Setting cash on fire would be more profitable, because that would at least help keep the offices warm in the winter.

To stay profitable, SNK needs to find another decent 2D hardware platform for arcade games and keep pumping out console ports. The company cannot look back.

Signature worthy quote. If there ever was a Neo-Geo bible this quote would be revelations.
 

ironish

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Stifu said:
Or SS6 Special. :p

SS6 is just not good enough to end the series (or at least the part of the series that uses those character sprites, in case they ever make a brand new 2D SS game afterward)... Plus they hinted at the fact they plan to make more SS games...
Wishful thinking.

For sure they will make more SS games. I can't see them just giving up on one of their largest IPs. The demand for SS is small, but it's still there. Now if they were to tell me that they're never going to make another 3 Count Bout I would believe them more.
 

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well the AW has a nice lineup even if it dies right this minute.

thing is they (Sammy and co.) scrapped way too many games along the way (Capcom vs Sammy,Sushi Bar, Premier Eleven, Ken Ju, Force Five, etc.), left too many holes and traps (as good as the games where on the AW, they where not superior to what what existed on the neo geo - no AW game looks as good as Garou, LB/LB2, RB2 - that's not progress).
in the end Sammy failed to make a real go of it.

and SNKP...

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Dunno, only thing im sure of is that it was distributed by Sega, at least to that location anyway.
 

Amano Jacu

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BIG BEAR said:
ZERO MVS support, just independent mobo's.
-BB

Yeah, I know what you mean, I just said that if the system was not cart based many people here would bitch and moan about having to swap boards in their cab. The "MVS" mention was just a reference to the polemic about the SvC pcb being "MVS" or not.
 

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I'm not suprised at all by this..
 

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Another summarization by remukhan @ CX

- KOF98 and KOF2002 will come out as singles games (presumably as Rebouts) instead of Online compilations.

- KOF NESTS Hen is delayed because SNK wants to add both NeoGeo and DC versions, plus a bonus.

- World Heroes, Kizuna Encounter/Savage Reign and other NeoGeo games will come out as NeoGeo Online Collections as planned.

- Samurai Shodown Tenkaichi Kenkyakuden was planned to be last 2D Samurai Shodown game, but it all depends on the fans which way they want SNK to take the series.

- NeoGeo Battle Coliseum 2 is not currently in plans, but SNK will develop it if there is enough demand to continue the series from fans.

- Garou: Mark of the Wolves story will continue, but SNK is still looking at the possibility whether to develop MOTW2 or take the story into a new series.

- SNK Playmore is also looking at the possibility of releasing its portable (mobile phone) games outstide Japan, as some of dating sim games with SNK characters have had great success.

- After the success of Playstation game 'Athena' and a portable game 'Athena on Stage', SNK will release another action based game on KOF heroin, tentateively titled 'Athena: Full Throttle". This portable game is expected to come out in July.

- SNK would also like to do a 3D fighting game based on SNK ladies only. (DOA???)

- Yumeji Kurokochi of Samurai Shodown is likely to be a man. But SNK is in midst of verifying it (what the??!)

- In NBC, Mizuchi's original form is not some clone of Chris. But its some kind of weapon created by WAREZ.

- SNK will also port its KOF Pachinko (Slot) Machine games to Portable (mobile) platform.

- It may be possible to renew their collaboration with Capcom, to release (fighting) games with characters of both companies.

- SNK is also looking forward to the next generation console wars before deciding their strategy, since success of each console also varies from country to country.
 

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DevilRedeemed said:
well the AW has a nice lineup even if it dies right this minute.

thing is they (Sammy and co.) scrapped way too many games along the way (Capcom vs Sammy,Sushi Bar, Premier Eleven, Ken Ju, Force Five, etc.), left too many holes and traps (as good as the games where on the AW, they where not superior to what what existed on the neo geo - no AW game looks as good as Garou, LB/LB2, RB2 - that's not progress).
in the end Sammy failed to make a real go of it.

and SNKP...

middle_finger_flame.jpg


I'd generally agree with the sentiments of not a lot of games looked that great over the neo-geo games that were mentioned; with the exception of KOFXI and Hokuto No Ken, but I'd expect no less from Arc System Works.

It's not surprising that the system is pretty much dead, but blows either way for those who wanted to see a little more life left in system that they purchased for console use.
 

aria

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DevilRedeemed said:
well the AW has a nice lineup even if it dies right this minute.

thing is they (Sammy and co.) scrapped way too many games along the way (Capcom vs Sammy,Sushi Bar, Premier Eleven, Ken Ju, Force Five, etc.), left too many holes and traps (as good as the games where on the AW, they where not superior to what what existed on the neo geo - no AW game looks as good as Garou, LB/LB2, RB2 - that's not progress).
in the end Sammy failed to make a real go of it.

and SNKP...

middle_finger_flame.jpg

Let's go retro:
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ResO

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Newsflash: SNKPlaymore gave up before they even started fucking the corpse of the original real SNK.
 

kernow

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ResOGlas said:
Newsflash: SNKPlaymore gave up before they even started fucking the corpse of the original real SNK.

so true
 

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Actually the atomiswave was a real mess on sales on Mexico, were snk consoles had strong sales on the golden years, maybe other reason why to drop off the system, I mean, lots of people lost money trying to buy the system at 900 us or more, no sales, no games, lack of interest on it, well, it had to happen :oh_no:
 
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