Is the current state of gaming kowtowing to tumblrinas?

[ResO]

Tetris is oppressive. Think about it. Some blocks don't fit it all because they're too fat. It's saying if you're not skinny enough to fit in, you go against the goals of success.

Who hasn't thought dirty thoughts about Tetris, though? That russian music, beads of sweat, biting your lower lip, closing your eyes as you force that long vertical block down the side. Heck yeah!!

I mean, Tetris is OK.

 

[DevilRedeemed]

Well... most of these militant types are also avid consumers and trend setters. They have the money and their point of view is not only tied to feminism and on a broader scale, equality and gay rights - they also represent avant garde arty mindsets. They are the new cool. Like the alternative kids of the 90s. So obviously industry is going to cater for these pampered overgrown babies. I'm not about to judge per se what they are putting forward. Their arguments are valid and in line with their own world view. I think it's all stupid. Big tit and small tits. If you have them just to satiate the male appetite I think you are being a bit pathetic too. I always liked DoA and the tits but only because I have viewed it as silly bizzare and ultimately provocative (not sexually provocative I mean socially provocative). Of course that stopped being fun 15 years ago same as fatalities in Mortal Kombat, when they started to do it for its own sake it became redundant.

So in conclusion fuck it. Money talks and those behind the money these days are a lot more diverse than yesteryear. Personally I find it sad, but also disappointing that gaming is aimed strongly towards younger people, and so all issues are treated pedantically. As gamers have become older there should be a lot more content and even differentiated gameplay experiences to cater for people who grew up in the 80s and 90s. It's definitely a challenge but a more evolved and at the same time traditional experience should be created. But there's no money in it. So we are slaves to the trends and the trend setter is the consumer nowadays. Hardly any mastermind artists behind the curtain remain.

 

[100proof]

Tetris is oppressive. Think about it. Some blocks don't fit it all because they're too fat. It's saying if you're not skinny enough to fit in, you go against the goals of success.

You make jokes but one of those buffoons already tried to cast Tetris as Soviet propaganda. <googles> Yup. Ben Kuchera of Polygon fame. It would be hilarious but I don't like to laugh at the mentally handicapped.

This is the world we've created where the political is personal and the personal is political.

 

[JoeAwesome]

Who hasn't thought dirty thoughts about Tetris, though? That russian music, beads of sweat, biting your lower lip, closing your eyes as you force that long vertical block down the side. Heck yeah!!

I mean, Tetris is OK.

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[Taiso]

this 4chan post pretty much sums up modern feminism:

I blame social media and the greediness of institutions of higher learning the world over for fostering this behavior and turning it into a viral plague amongst the virtue signalers of the world.

Critical theory is garbage and poison.

 

[ChuChu Flamingo]

It has been like this with sjw since around late 2012 to 2013 and gotten extremely bad in the following years. They want to infect everything with their stupid ideologies, and what is worse companies will listen to them even though they don't buy their shit.

Just look at feminist frequency or Anita Sarkeesian stupid videos on this shit to see how fucked we are.

And whats worse is they are teaching this shit in schools and making it mandatory as a class in most colleges. I fucking lol'd when my brother said he has to learn about white privilege in college.

 

[Jibbajaba]

institutions of higher learning

Just wanted to say that I've been on a university campus for the last 15 years, and there has been a very noticeable shift towards creating a "safe space" for students. Anything that might offend someone, hurt someone's feelings, or make them feel "unsafe" is frowned upon, while coddling and sheltering is supported. What's unfortunate is that these highly-sheltered students are the ones who will go on to become the leaders and policy-makers in the world, and they are going to draw on these experiences.

 

[Tw3ek]

What's unfortunate is that these highly-sheltered students are the ones who will go on to become the leaders and policy-makers in the world, and they are going to draw on these experiences.

This is honestly the thing that worries me the most about all of this. This problem doesn't look like it's going to get better, it looks like it's going to get a LOT worse in the near future.

 

[ResO]

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Ha!

 

[lithy]

You know, the long skinny pieces are the most useful pieces in the game.

Neo-geo.com forum knowledge test:

Which is wizkid?

 

[Taiso]

Just wanted to say that I've been on a university campus for the last 15 years, and there has been a very noticeable shift towards creating a "safe space" for students. Anything that might offend someone, hurt someone's feelings, or make them feel "unsafe" is frowned upon, while coddling and sheltering is supported. What's unfortunate is that these highly-sheltered students are the ones who will go on to become the leaders and policy-makers in the world, and they are going to draw on these experiences.

Christina Hoff Summers wrote a fantastic and spot on book called 'Whole Stole Feminism?' and there is a great deal of the book devoted to the safe space culture that has resulted in this paradigm shift.

I'd vet a university BIG TIME before I ever considered sending one of my children to it first. I want them to go and learn and to prepare for the harsh realities of the world so that they can be survivors and successful, not to put their feelings first and ask for the system to change to accommodate their fee-fees.

 

[DNSDies]

What's unfortunate is that these highly-sheltered students are the ones who will go on to become the leaders and policy-makers in the world, and they are going to draw on these experiences.

Not with degrees in Feminists Studies they won't.
A handful of them will learn how to play political games and leverage their victim status for power and privilege, but most will be stuck with huge debts well into their mid 30s with little or no marketable skills or education for real employment.
Even social service type jobs don't want these people, because they tend to ruin offices with their games.

 

[LoneSage]

My noob is showing, I failed lithy's wizkid aptitude test.

 

[xorthen]

i liked gaming a lot better before it was infested by social justice warriors

 

[Jibbajaba]

Not with degrees in Feminists Studies they won't.
A handful of them will learn how to play political games and leverage their victim status for power and privilege, but most will be stuck with huge debts well into their mid 30s with little or no marketable skills or education for real employment.
Even social service type jobs don't want these people, because they tend to ruin offices with their games.

I'm not talking about people getting degrees in "feminist studies", nor am I talking about people trying to leverage some kind of "victim status". I'm talking about the treatment of the student body as a whole by the administration and campus leaders.

 

[tacoguy]

I don't think it's possible to make everybody happy.
A big company like Blizzard would want to protect their image and probably not want that kind of negative attention. Could end up hurting their sales when they are trying to sell as much as they can. So I can understand them playing that fine line.

 

[SpamYouToDeath]

I see a lot of people making noise on the Internet. I don't know that this is having any serious impact, though. Twitter is like a megaphone that only works for stupid people.

 

[Taiso]

Their crying is working.

-Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 not released in the West DESPITE THE SERIES SELLING BETTER IN NORTH AMERICA THAN IN ANY OTHER REGION, INCLUDING JAPAN
-Tracer
-The Pillars of Eternity Kickstarter tribute kerfuffle
-The Baldur's Gate Dragonspear Castle writing
-Idea Factory stating that they will no longer edit their localisations for mature content, meaning the West might not get some of their games.
-The bust sizer being removed from Xenoblade Chronicles X in the west

People also complain about the censoring of games such as Monster Monpiece and the localization of the Fire Emblem games, but I don't necessarily agree with those criticisms. At least, not all the way.

There is still a massive cultural divide between Japan and the West, even with the generational cultural exchange that has helped to soften the blow as a result of the influx of anime, manga and general accessibility to information about the respective societies. The hypersexualization of young women in some Japanese games is simply something Western culture just isn't ready/able to accept as a form of artistic expression just yet, and I'm not so sure that they ever will (or should). It's still unsettling to many people, and for understandable reasons.

When it comes to Nintendo localisations, my complaints are more about the actual content and context of the conversations the characters have.

The touching games and petting games aren't the 'genre subversions' that their defenders want to them to be. They're fucking perverted games.

And you know what? I don't really care because I don't believe that video games correlate to real life re-enactment. I don't play them, but largely because I'd rather play games that have a mechanical reward as well as an emotional reward. Also, I'm a grown ass man and if I want to see sex things, I'll just bypass titilation and go right for porn on the internet.

As it relates to video games indoctrinating systems of skewed normalcy in people, I think it makes people become more strange but they're essentially harmless at the end of the day. Sad and maladjusted, but entirely harmless and should just be left alone.

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My complaint is when people don't just own it and say 'I play these because I like them.'

Just own it, son. Be yourself.

I watched Otaku No Video with my wife last night. Has to have been 15 years since I saw it last and the thing I noticed during the live action interview segments was that the people that had abandoned their inner nerd were normal but miserable and the people that were otaku were offputting weirdos but at least they lived with joy for what they were.

I have a new favorite scene in that anime. It's when Kubo (the main character) is in the elevator at the start of the film and all of the otaku anime nerds come into the elevator and start talking nerd stuff. It was a strangely uncomfortable scene, and they all acted completely different from the 'normal' characters in the show up to that point. You could tell they 'didn't fit' with society's norms and even I, a lifelong nerd, rolled my eyes at how much they were nerding out.

But how many times, in my youth, was *I* among those types, piling into an elevator and weirding out some innocent bystanders as me and my pals talked about the latest episode of Zeta Gundam (or whatever)?

 

[Yoshi]

I made the mistake of reading a few NeoGAF threads today. God bless you for making this thread to wash the bleeding hearts off.

 

[Taiso]

I am being rather aggressive in this thread.

Gaf fucking sucks.

Anonymous needs to nuke that worthless place.

 

[Tanooki]

Christina Hoff Summers wrote a fantastic and spot on book called 'Whole Stole Feminism?' and there is a great deal of the book devoted to the safe space culture that has resulted in this paradigm shift.

I'd vet a university BIG TIME before I ever considered sending one of my children to it first. I want them to go and learn and to prepare for the harsh realities of the world so that they can be survivors and successful, not to put their feelings first and ask for the system to change to accommodate their fee-fees.

Huge fear of mine too, right down to my coming up on five years old little girl. I don't want her growing up thinking it's good to be a whiny bitch who can protest her way through society and trampling anyone who makes her feel in the least bit uncomfortable by gaming the system and changing the rules. No one is entitled to feel safe, create your own safety while not screwing up other peoples lives. If you can't function on a high enough level in society to do that, might as well just take yourself out of society entirely for its betterment.

Social justice warriors suck and are the worst. Type of person who needs to be punched in the face, hard, and when they cry and protest, keep doing it until they get the point in life there should be no public 'safe spaces' from actions or ideals, or they're unconscious due to arrogant self centered stupidity.

 

[ChuChu Flamingo]

But how many times, in my youth, was *I* among those types, piling into an elevator and weirding out some innocent bystanders as me and my pals talked about the latest episode of Zeta Gundam (or whatever)?

Probably not the best time to do it, but lol if they got weirded out. Flexing that power level to break their scouters.

I feel like a lot of the anime hate, even towards japanese video games is grade A nationalism shit.I almost guarantee you the first thing a stranger will say to anime is "why are their hairs black or why don' they look like japanese people" yet never ask the same question about our cartoons. In the eyes of the public anime often times gets lumped into that shit you were talking about (the touching games, which are hilarious, but ultimately boring) or waifu pandering shit. I think we all know "that one guy" irl or online who just gives anime a bad name and reaffirms their stupid ideology.I find it hilarious they want to censor shit as they aren't even consistent about it. The real problem is that censorship should not be tolerated.It is like we are in the comic book code censorship era of the 1950's.

For reals, what normalfag seriously buys mugen souls,Monster Monpiece, or Criminal girls. Look at Monster Monpiece, what is the fucking point of censoring the game.It is like NISA wants to shoot themselves in the foot (and this isn't even counting their localization process and dubbing).


To sum it up, they are essentially saying these fictitious characters are real. With that logic, I should be in prison for all the virtual people i've murked in my various video games. I also concur for a cleansing of neogaf.

 

[Taiso]

Chuchu, I think we could get along famously.

Don't fuck this up

 

[norton9478]

It is clear that the cultural critics are much more successful than the so called "Gamers".

Perhaps it is because they are more constructive. Whereas the cultural critics tend to direct their criticisms towards the publishers, gamers direct most of their criticism towards the critics, often in the form of misogyny.

 

[Taiso]

And often not.

I was wondering when you'd say something stupid in this thread. It was inevitable.