What Neo Geo Game/s are you playing? Weekly/daily check.

oliverclaude

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?! Yes, very much so. Simon's Quest, Double Dragon neo geo, Adventures of Link, SamSho RPG are just a few examples off the top of my head of sequels in which the gameplay was radically changed, yet are still clearly part of the game series.
Seems all too easy... how about the CD-i Zelda's? Or Metal Slug Defense? Be it as it may, it all comes down to this: There's always room to discuss to what degree a game (book, film, comic etc.) belongs to a series canon and to what degree it doesn't. You seem to be a fan of easy answers, though, so carry on and don't bother to question pre-chewed definitions, nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all.
 

profholt82

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What are you even talking about? Just because Kizuna Encounter has some gameplay differences from Savage Reign does not make it exempt from its respective game series. It’s still set within the same gaming universe, includes the same characters and continues the overall storyline. And furthermore, although as I pointed out in my previous post that this doesn’t necessarily matter, it’s still a 2D fighter. Kizuna Encounter nixed the 2-plane platform mechanic, added a tag feature, and a few new characters. That doesn't mean that it should no longer be considered a part of the Fū'un series. It’s great that you liked the platform system of the first game, and it’s unfortunate that SNK chose to drop it, but that doesn’t change the fact that they created it as a direct sequel to Savage Reign. We can debate the merits of the games, and whether the changes between them are improvements or negatives, but we can’t debate whether the changes negate the game’s inclusion as part of the series, because that’s not up for debate.
 

oliverclaude

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What are you even talking about?
You're confused? Probably because while I was quoting member dspoonrt, you chimed in with a new topic. For me comparing Savage and Kizuna is comparing apples and oranges and if somebody likes either of one but not the other, that's not saying much about the reason why. That's basically what I said to dspoonrt.

Now with this other thing, whether Kizuna (or MotW, or AoFIII etc.) are parts of a series cannon, or even the same series, I'm of the opinion that each case has pro and con arguments. For me the term "gaiden" applies to many of those games mentioned above, not only in terms of story, though. I'd extend it to game mechanics, too.

I'm also of the opinion, that there's always room to debate. You're not, but that's okay with me.
 

profholt82

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You and I just have a difference of opinion on this. For me, apples and oranges would be Savage Reign and Puzzle Bobble. I'm no horticulturalist, but I would consider Savage Reign and Kizuna Encounter to be more akin to different types of apples, like Golden Delicious and McIntosh, for instance. Well, ok, for me they'd be more like green and yellow crab apples, but you get my point.
 

oliverclaude

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I'm no horticulturalist, but I would consider Savage Reign and Kizuna Encounter to be more akin to different types of apples, ...
Look it's just an idiom, I could also say Savage is a two-plane fighter and Kizuna a single-plane one and in that difference lies their proverbial "apples & oranges" incomparability. Not to mention a totally revised engine, different game mechanics and the tag-team structure. For me these differences are profound enough to question whether it's the same game anymore and what consequences this implies.

Incidentally, it's horticulturist and in spite of it all, I feel like the gardening world has lost a great one in you...
 

Pretty Amy

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Played a bunch of League Bowling yesterday with friends. Finally broke 200 and got a 230. First 5 frames were all strikes.
 
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