Worst sunfade you've found?

[HeavyMachineGoob]

All those AES games trapped in Japanese stores near the window, where the sun saps all the color from the spine of the insert.

We all know this right? Has anyone found a game with really bad sunfade? On the whole insert? Ever found a B&W insert?

 

[ruderudie]

Maybe a more interesting question is: what eventually can happen to the carts if the pcb's seriously heat up day in day out for a long period of time? Is there any chance this affects the lifespan of the game?

 

[Pasky]

Heat always affects the lifespan of electronics. Probably not by much just having a game sit in the window all day if at all. Maybe baking in a hot car for years would do something, I doubt any window showing would ever damage anything in AES carts.

 

[GutsDozer]

I've seen an NES Cart become soft and partially melt after being left in my friend's mom's car all day when we were kids. He was pissed.

 

[Oneeventhorizon]

I think I die a little on the inside when I see a whole rack of games faded.

 

[andsuchisdeath]

Worst sun fade I've found??









Serious answer though? Most of my expensive homecarts.

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

Maybe a more interesting question is: what eventually can happen to the carts if the pcb's seriously heat up day in day out for a long period of time? Is there any chance this affects the lifespan of the game?

Unrelated question, but I'll answer it anyway.

Excess heat doesn't do anything to PCBs and chips. You'd need over 300F to melt the solder on the boards. To melt the boards or even ROM chips... Well, an 800F soldering iron isn't enough.

Heat from just being played in an MVS won't do any damage whatsoever.

 

[BIG BEAR]

moisture is the villain for the electronics portion.... heat and sun on paper is going to do the fading & scortching of the insert so...an AES cart in a hot, muggy climate of the world is doomed without proper care.....
BB

 

[snes_collector]

I don't have any sunfaded AES games, but I have noticed many do have that issue. If we are counting non Neo Geo games, here's the worst I've ever had:

Picked that up a few years ago on the cheap when I still needed Breath of Fire. What's even worse is when I got home the copy didn't even have BOF inside, it was Musya!

 

[Tw3ek]

 

[irvsmoot]

I've been fortunate enough that my Neo games have been spared excessive time in the sun. Now, some of my Mega Drive games. . .that's a different story.

 

[ebinsugewa]

I had a marquee that was so sunfaded and cigarette smoke tarred that it basically disintegrated when I took it off the cab.

 

[Wookiemeat]

There's an old guy who sells gameboy games at a market near us and it's got to the point where his original gameboy games simply have white labels throughout.

He's then gone over them with badly spelled marker pen just so people know what they are.

U can have a "Pokemom red" for a fiver

 

[Neo Ash]

I have never understood why retailers in Japan just let stuff bake in their shop windows. OK, you get something new…put it in the window for a day or two....NOT years. I’ve always ran away from sun faded AES stuff.

 

[sparksterz]

The side of my Getaway High Speed II pinball is in pretty rough shape on one side due to sun-fade. The lettering which used to be red is nearly white now; the other side is a bit better. One of these days I have to get around to getting the new cabinet decals placed on it.

 

[evil wasabi]

I believe it was a stakes winner 2.

 

[ChuChu Flamingo]

The stuff also fades from Fluorescent lighting as well, just takes longer.

 

[sparksterz]

The stuff also fades from Fluorescent lighting as well, just takes longer.

That's interesting...just looked that up and found this on wikipedia: "Fluorescent lamps emit a small amount of ultraviolet (UV) light. A 1993 study in the US found that ultraviolet exposure from sitting under fluorescent lights for eight hours is equivalent to only one minute of sun exposure." That was actually a sourced quote so it's a bit more reliable than most.

Sounds like setting rooms up with LED lighting is a decent alternative in that case, and would explain why I've seen things in store display cases that just fade to shit after a while.

 

[ChuChu Flamingo]

Incandescent lights are alright too, just not ideal for lighting up a display case because of heat.

A lot of the neo mini marques you see yellowed are from the fluorescent light that are in the neo cabinets.It takes a lot longer to fade than direct/indirect sunlight. CFL bulbs fade stuff as well since they are just a miniature fluorescent light.

 

[indierocklocks]

I've made a darkroom with red protective lights for my game collection. I've dedicated a few modified wine coolers to keep them at a perfect 54 degrees Fahrenheit. Acid-free gloves and eye protection are also a must. I also don't ever look directly AT the games...just out of my peripherals or a glance-by. One guy looked at my games once. He's dead.

On a serious note for you guys that genuinely are scared of fluorescent lights fading your games, you're crazy. But back when I used to screen print you were able to use those incandescent yellow "bug bulbs" in the dark room and it wouldn't cure the emulsion (which is designed to do so with UV exposure).

On topic though I'll take a pic of a blue/white Last Battle for genesis at my local flea market. It's terrible.

 

[vaillian]

neo geo aes still fades to a lesser extant than snes games and other games imo

 

[ChuChu Flamingo]

I've made a darkroom with red protective lights for my game collection. I've dedicated a few modified wine coolers to keep them at a perfect 54 degrees Fahrenheit. Acid-free gloves and eye protection are also a must. I also don't ever look directly AT the games...just out of my peripherals or a glance-by. One guy looked at my games once. He's dead.

On a serious note for you guys that genuinely are scared of fluorescent lights fading your games, you're crazy. But back when I used to screen print you were able to use those incandescent yellow "bug bulbs" in the dark room and it wouldn't cure the emulsion (which is designed to do so with UV exposure).

On topic though I'll take a pic of a blue/white Last Battle for genesis at my local flea market. It's terrible.

Ask yourself this, why do they not use CFLs/ Fluorescent in art exhibits?

http://www.nedcc.org/free-resources...-environment/2.4-protection-from-light-damage

tldr; uv damage is always cumulative. CFL bulbs look like shit anyhow, and even if you get the low UV ones it really doesn't make a difference.

The whole goal is to minimize the damage, not prevent it. As there is something even greater and more powerful than sun fading, dark fading. Dark fading is just how stuff degrades in the absence of light.

Personally, I use incandescent and led bulbs.

 

[BlackFlag]

I kept my games in a room lit with fluorescent for more than 10 years and they show no signs of fading. Dont you guys have other urgent things in life to worry about??

 

[Neo Ash]

I kept my games in a room lit with fluorescent for more than 10 years and they show no signs of fading. Dont you guys have other urgent things in life to worry about??

You have no idea of the extremes people go to when collecting Neo, specifically AES related items.

I have always stored my AES games in either a glass free cabinet or a dark closet. For the more rare home carts, condition is everything.

 

[BlackFlag]

You have no idea of the extremes people go to when collecting Neo, specifically AES related items.

I have always stored my AES games in either a glass free cabinet or a dark closet. For the more rare home carts, condition is everything.

Sorry but why glass free cabinet??? So that no light can penetrate??