Who got NGF's Zupapa for Christmas??

[LastResort]

hehe NGF's zupapa home cart is as official as mine. And the price to make one isn't that high, so they still make a nice profit.

LastResort

 

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Criterionradiohead:
[QB I don't care how many people you tell that NGF is NO GOOD, there is still going to be that select few morons that buy from them. That will keep them going long enough to destroy the little bit of what is left of Neo Geo.[/QB]

EXACTLY!

No one comes out and says "I am sending the fat check to NGF. Somebody stop me."

It just happens.

Big Bear has not stopped me from dealing with NGF, I have. I decided on my own that these are not peopole that I want to deal with, by reading their posts back at DHP and on dolphinlords.

They (NGF) don't have a voice here, and thus we only hear BB raving against them - people may be critical of BB, especially since they don't see the manipulations, lies, and insults first hand. Someone should host a site with choice NGF posts for the community.

Because I don't see the current way that BB uses to be working. No offense BB, I know it's in the best intentions, but you see it - people still send cash to NGF, small or large. And NGF is still here.

 

[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by Joe McCabe:
<STRONG>I think the cart looks great. But that's my opinion. Dion just sent me pics. The cart looks very professional. I think I will buy, not because it's from NGF, but they are the only ones who have it. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: Joe McCabe ]</STRONG>

EXACTLY! NGF are the -ONLY- ones who have a copy of this game! Four Hundred "pre-paid" buyers DO NOT EXIST!
NGF claims that 400 copies of the OFFICIAL RELEASE of Zupapa was shipped 17th/18th of December and I won't to know WHO has the cartridge! WHO can provide PROOF! In the midst of all this "focus" on the "messenger" and not the "messenger" STILL not "a one" pre-paying customer has come forward!
here kitty..kitty..kitty
here kitty..kitty..kitty
This issue -WILL- not get swept under the rug like all the other LIES!
SOMEBODY PRODUCE the GAME!
-BB

 

[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<STRONG>EXACTLY!

No one comes out and says "I am sending the fat check to NGF. Somebody stop me."

It just happens.

Big Bear has not stopped me from dealing with NGF, I have. I decided on my own that these are not peopole that I want to deal with, by reading their posts back at DHP and on dolphinlords.

They (NGF) don't have a voice here, and thus we only hear BB raving against them - people may be critical of BB, especially since they don't see the manipulations, lies, and insults first hand. Someone should host a site with choice NGF posts for the community.

Because I don't see the current way that BB uses to be working. No offense BB, I know it's in the best intentions, but you see it - people still send cash to NGF, small or large. And NGF is still here.</STRONG>

Okay. How about this... Do the internet ARCHIVES lie?? People can go READ the DHP archives just like yourself,people can refer to the neo-geo.com "black book" neo-geo.com has a great search engine!! Just type in "NGF stamp","NGF" TONS of information is available for anyone willing to do the "RESEARCH"
I am making people aware! It is their responsibility to do the 'RESEARCH' and form their own opinion! It's up to them to ask a "friend" not just "blindly" deal with SCAMMERS like NGF!
Instead of saying that my method seems to not be working because this is FAR from the truth, back me up and answer this one question...AM I Lying on NGF? Just back me up.. Why was I personally asked to -STOP- my assault because NGF had all of the sudden turned over a "new leaf" This supposed release of an OFFICIAL,not converted Zupapa home cartridge was a "new beginning".
All I can do is make people "aware" and that's what I am doing.. It is up to the potential buyer to do the "research" and ask someone in this community they "trust". The potential buyer will then form an opinion just like you did EW.If they decide to deal with NGF after doing the research..FINE,I don't have a problem with it but no longer will people come here and say "I did'nt know" There will be NO EXCUSES!
"curiosity killed the cat" which get's me back to asking "Who has the Official NGF Zupapa?"
Here kitty..kitty..kitty....
Here kitty..kitty..kitty....
Here kitty..kitty..kitty....
If I've helped "one" person, then my campaign has been worth it!
I -DO- GIVE A DAMN!
-BB
It is not against the law to "vandalize" one's own property. "outside interference" is not necessary if people are made "aware" and those made aware do the "research" it's -THAT- simple.
MAXIMUM torture for NGF is to "still exist" but have "no influence" whatsoever in this community.

-BB

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]

 

[vulvair]

Last Resort, where are you from Belgium? I speant my first 17 years in Brussels (Uccle), and left there 5 years ago.

 

[Viewpoint]

Originally posted by BIG BEAR:
<STRONG>I don't care if you've had a successful deal in the past! It is the way NGF conducts themselves that should make a person NEVER,EVER want to do business with them again!</STRONG>

Originally posted elsewhere by Billkwando:<STRONG>So if you plan on promoting the glory of "the ladies of Las Vegas" (you know who I mean) you might as well step on, because otherwise you face a verbal thrashing. Even if you claim to have gotten a good deal from crooks, there's one of you for every 20 who've been ripped off by the same people.</STRONG>

I think this statment sums up the people who are trying to defend NGF simply enough. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

 

[BIG BEAR]

Here comes the "proper breakdown" please...

Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<STRONG>EXACTLY!

No one comes out and says "I am sending the fat check to NGF. Somebody stop me."

It just happens.</STRONG>

What a person chooses to do with "their money" is none of my damn business and I am not trying to make it my business.

<STRONG>
Big Bear has not stopped me from dealing with NGF, I have. I decided on my own that these are not peopole that I want to deal with, by reading their posts back at DHP and on dolphinlords.</STRONG>

I did'nt stop you from dealing with NGF? I'm not trying to "stop people" from doing SHIT.
What I am doing is "exchanging information" that may help a fellow member who does'nt want to experience the "heartache" of getting burned by NGF! EW,you've obviously done your research and made a very intelligent decision not to deal with NGF scum a long time ago.Good for you...

<STRONG>
They (NGF) don't have a voice here, and thus we only hear BB raving against them - people may be critical of BB, especially since they don't see the manipulations, lies, and insults first hand.
</STRONG>

The above is unadulterated "misinformation".
Chris R just recently participated in a few threads attempting to "drum" up business from more potential suckers.Dion and Chris still have active accounts here so please don't try to make it look like this BBS is keeping PUFF and SHUGAH from responding to their "bogus" claims. I am not a "bully" and I am not picking on NGF. The issue @ hand is that 400 copies of NGH Zupapa was sold and not "one" customer has stepped forward with PROOF! those two "happy slicer's" read these forums religiously and they won't even provide 'PROOF'

<STRONG>
Someone should host a site with choice NGF posts for the community.
Because I don't see the current way that BB uses to be working. No offense BB, I know it's in the best intentions, but you see it - people still send cash to NGF, small or large. And NGF is still here.</STRONG>

Leaving people in the "dark" does more harm than good and affects "everyone" as oppossed to "some of us".
-BB

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]

 

[Viewpoint]

Bigbear,
In light of all your comments about NGF I think I should say that I'm glad someone out there is still around riding the Ambigious Duo still to this day seeing as one of the major hitters on those two is kinda ingonito.

Keep up the good work. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

 

[chimpmeister]

HAHAHAHA, NGF put up a pic of the "Zupapa home cart" at their site, and it looks like CRAP!! Has an ORANGE stripe (how stupid does that look?!?), and the screenshots on the back cover look really crappy, as does the front cover and spine . . .

Sorry guys, I really don't think they moved 300+ of this ugly cart, it just looks like a JOKE!!! And of course we all know that NGF is great at putting up ONE PIC of one of their faked carts, but the reality is they never had any quantity of this game "manufactured", they just made that shit up to try to sound legitimate . . . something they'll never be. Notice you don't see any pics of their FIVE HUNDRED carts, because they can't even afford to print up a ton of fake inserts to put in empty boxes, to make it seem like they actually had it done!! LMAO!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">

 

[BRANDI]

Originally posted by chimpmeister:
<STRONG>HAHAHAHA, NGF put up a pic of the "Zupapa home cart" at their site, and it looks like CRAP!! Has an ORANGE stripe (how stupid does that look?!?), and the screenshots on the back cover look really crappy, as does the front cover and spine . . .

Sorry guys, I really don't think they moved 300+ of this ugly cart, it just looks like a JOKE!!! And of course we all know that NGF is great at putting up ONE PIC of one of their faked carts, but the reality is they never had any quantity of this game "manufactured", they just made that shit up to try to sound legitimate . . . something they'll never be. Notice you don't see any pics of their FIVE HUNDRED carts, because they can't even afford to print up a ton of fake inserts to put in empty boxes, to make it seem like they actually had it done!! LMAO!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

... just like the fake pic of the fake Euro Kizuna... <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

 

[LastResort]

That's the cheapest homebrew insert i've seen in years. Just plainly sucks bigtime.
And they sell this as original ? Who the hell believes that ?

LastResort

 

[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by LastResort:
<STRONG>That's the cheapest homebrew insert i've seen in years. Just plainly sucks bigtime.
And they sell this as original ? Who the hell believes that ?

LastResort</STRONG>

Can someone please place the pick(s) or links up in this thread to the picks.
I am not on their site of course...and I don't see anything...
Thankyuo-BB

 

[Daisuke Jigen]

Dion sent me this this morning:

 

[BIG BEAR]

Okay..NO "japanese release" and an "old style" box....I said the "OFFICIAL RELEASE",not a conversion!
NGF did'nt create SHIT! they would only be distributors! Why is their logo on the sppine instead of FACE???
HAHAHA!!! OHHHHHHH!!!

 

[BIG BEAR]

AHAHAHAHAHAH!! I love it!!! AHAHAHAH Where are the customers @ verifying this "official" release?? That insert belongs over @ SHOCK HQ minus the ugly ass red background and the god awful NGF logo on the spine!! I mean hell!! Why follow in the tradition of SNK's insert "template"??? If thisis the 1st OFFICIAL NGF release!!
Hahahahahah! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAahahahahaha!
-BB

 

[LastResort]

Not only the NGF logo shows it's a fake one.
The Zupapa logo inside the glove of the character on the front of the insert, no company in the world would make it like that.
Second the insert has orange stripes while the cart sticker has yellow stripes ?? Probably indicates they are printed on different machines.
If this cart is a new release why does it look like it's been cleaned with sandpaper?
There are signs of wear all over it. They probably got shipped together with sandpaper or so. <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">
And then the old style cases, probably come from the WH2 sac carts they used lol

Now watch this, this is how the official european insert looks like <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0"> lol
Just kidding, this is my version of the homebrew insert. Sorry for the pathetic jpg look, but the original file is almost 50 Mb big <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: LastResort ]

 

[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by LastResort:
<STRONG>Not only the NGF logo shows it's a fake one.
The Zupapa logo inside the glove of the character on the front of the insert, no company in the world would make it like that.
Second the insert has orange stripes while the cart sticker has yellow stripes ?? Probably indicates they are printed on different machines.
If this cart is a new release why does it look like it's been cleaned with sandpaper?
There are signs of wear all over it. They probably got shipped together with sandpaper or so. <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">
And then the old style cases, probably come from the WH2 sac carts they used lol

Now watch this, this is how the official european insert looks like <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0"> lol
Just kidding, this is my version of the homebrew insert. Sorry for the pathetic jpg look, but the original file is almost 50 Mb big <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: LastResort ]</STRONG>

Hey LR, I was going to mention that but the "NGF" on the spine had me fall back off my chair I was that taken aback by it!! FACE creates the game but NGF takes the credit??
NGF did'nt program SHIT! They are what is known as a "retailer" not "programmers"
That NGF insert looks like SHIT! when you show off you'r LR.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
NGF hates SNK but uses their English template??? Anybody who paid for this "conversion" deserves EXACTLY what they get!!
Ohhhhh Hahahahaha
BTW,thanks BONUS for the on-record compliment! Bill "clued" us in loooong ago abouyt these "happy slicer's"
An "official release" BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
-BB

 

[Big Bruno]

Originally posted by BIG BEAR:
<STRONG>

Okay..NO "japanese release" and an "old style" box....I said the "OFFICIAL RELEASE",not a conversion!
NGF did'nt create SHIT! they would only be distributors! Why is their logo on the sppine instead of FACE???
HAHAHA!!! OHHHHHHH!!!</STRONG>

that is pretty funny,

they are the first to Bitch about
!arcade!'s Super dodgeball being release in a old style box yet the do the same for zupapa and it is alright. Personaly I could care less but apparently they (no surprise) have double standards. Of course I know the argument is that it was a older game however it was realsed in 2001 even though it is a proto from way back so technically it should have the new style case and the picture display would be in the newer format.

of course now WH2 uses the old style boxes, hmmm could they be converting those to make the zupapa's? would give them the extra boxes to use <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Daisuke Jigen]

Originally posted by Big Bruno:
<STRONG>that is pretty funny,

they are the first to Bitch about
!arcade!'s Super dodgeball being release in a old style box yet the do the same for zupapa and it is alright. Personaly I could care less but apparently they (no surprise) have double standards. Of course I know the argument is that it was a older game however it was realsed in 2001 even though it is a proto from way back so technically it should have the new style case and the picture display would be in the newer format.

of course now WH2 uses the old style boxes, hmmm could they be converting those to make the zupapa's? would give them the extra boxes to use <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

I think the logo on the glove looks kinda retarded. I think their explanation was that it was a 1994 game, so they were releasing it in that manner. It is not a bad insert except for the zupapa on the fist.

As Blaine pointed out to me, where is all the art they got? That is just the MVS art is it not?

Nonetheless, I think it still looks as good as any other homebrew insert.

 

[LastResort]

Man, I'm tempted to buy one of these and open it, so i can see which boards they used on thisone, but i'll bet I wont be that far away from the truth by naming WH2 as one of the possible carts they used. Cost like 20$ sac cart.
100 $ worth of eproms (less if bought in bulk). And 75$ for the "labor", and 2 cents for the insert, sticker and manual.

the manual, shows no where the SNK logo or FACE logo, not even TM on the sticker.
All clearly shows it's not official Face/SNK
production.

LastResort

 

[Big Bruno]

Originally posted by Daisuke Jigen:
<STRONG>I think the logo on the glove looks kinda retarded. I think their explanation was that it was a 1994 game, so they were releasing it in that manner. It is not a bad insert except for the zupapa on the fist.

As Blaine pointed out to me, where is all the art they got? That is just the MVS art is it not?

Nonetheless, I think it still looks as good as any other homebrew insert.</STRONG>

but that is not the point. The claim was everything was going to be made new by the same places that SNK USA used. Now with that said surely getting the clasp style boxes would be easy and cheap enough to use, in fact to even make extras, once the master mold is used. after all the game may have been around since 94 but it was not released until 2001. they may say that it is because it was made in 94 however i think most people are intelligent enough to know the real reason. At least I would hope so. Personaly I have not seen the (c) screen but I do believe it says (c) 2001 on the released NGM's, (not sure on the rom copies or older version)

 

[Rade K]

Originally posted by LastResort:
<STRONG>Man, I'm tempted to buy one of these and open it, so i can see which boards they used on thisone, but i'll bet I wont be that far away from the truth by naming WH2 as one of the possible carts they used. Cost like 20$ sac cart.
100 $ worth of eproms (less if bought in bulk). And 75$ for the "labor", and 2 cents for the insert, sticker and manual.

the manual, shows no where the SNK logo or FACE logo, not even TM on the sticker.
All clearly shows it's not official Face/SNK
production.

LastResort</STRONG>

Yeah, but was there ever any doubt that this shit was fake in the first place? I'm glad that we have proof but was there any ever real doubt?

The only thing this will appeal to is those fools who for some reason take ngf (we should start spelling it out in lower cases) as gospel (I don't have to name names, but they are idiots) and continue to support these morons. These idiots are going to ignore the facts and continue to support shit like this and perpetuate the ngf myth.

paraphrased Quote: "as long as I don't get ripped off, ngf is cool with me and are a great company. I find it hard to believe the rip people off". I won't tell you which well known ngf supporter believes this.

Well, I guess BB is right, people can do whatever they want with their money. It's just that this money keeps ngf kinda going. I wish these people werent so stupid sometimes.

Why does NGF selectively treat their customers with varying degrees of service?

 

[LastResort]

Most people on this forum already knew it was gonna be fake. Now they have the proof of it also. But there are still people out there who dont know shit about NGF's activitys. So they expect the brand new official released Zupapa and instead they get a poor hackjob. But then again what's to be expected when you deal with NGF.
Not mentioning the stickers and stamps that will accompany this release.

LastResort

 

[Criterionradiohead]

That release is just sad. I'm really taken back by all the mistakes that they made. I mean, if you were going to try and do something that you know is wrong, you would at least hide every possible track so you don't get caught. This is just plain sloppy. I hope the worst for NGF on this one, and I mean that with every bit of Neo passion that I have.

NGF....what a bunch of rat bastards!!!

Criterionradiohead <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

 

[BIG BEAR]

"

A "legitimate company" would NEVER camouflage the title into their artwork.
Also notice that the title "Zupapa" is NOT on the glove of the Fake manual and label.
Anybody who purchases this NGF "bogus"conversion will feel like they had someone stick their "Zing" into their "Zook"
BTW I am still waiting for "one" pre-purchaser out of four hundred seven SOLD to come forward and validate this game's authenticity...
-BB

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]