...hmmmm...perhaps... I myself would be tempted to point the finger at parenting becoming a thing of the past first. Seems a lot of our problems come from people that have crap parents...or no parents. People just keep having kids and then they don't do anything with them, they just pawn them off anyplace they can and they don't show these kids how to act.
You hate to blame the kids because they had the back luck of being born with idiot parents, but 18yrs later those kids are grown 6ft 300lb adults with no moral direction. Then all you have is whats infront of you. We all saw him shaking down a man *literally* half his size. Fucking pathetic. Clearly nobody instilled in him why that makes you a shitty person for doing that. Then he gave an officer a hard time, clearly nobody taught him to respect authority. This young guy was failed by his parents, you wanna point fingers, point them at the parents because they had the last 2 decades to show their son how to act.
I take offense being called privileged too. No, I'm not privileged, I work for my money (what little I make) and I'm proud of it.
I think Maury wasn't strictly talking about economic privilege. Even the simple privilege of not getting hassled by cops to the degree that people of color are, is something most white people take for granted.
If racial profiling isn't rampant in your city , then you are lucky. Just take a trip to a border town for examples of cops who treat people like criminal scum, just because they are brown or black.
White privilege isn't anywhere near where it used to be, but it's still there to certain degree.
Yeah, just in case you're colored and have to deal with the popo.
This is literally happening in my neighborhood.
Five minutes down the street.
This last week has been nothing but a shit storm of bad press, bad decisions (from all parties),
& misinformation.
Michael Brown did not deserve to die.
Darren Wilson most likely never wanted to shoot anyone.
But when you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
We all make choices, but in the end, our choices make us
sad that there's so many racists' here on the forums...
i hate to say it though, but the only way racism is going to stop entirely is if us humans become extinct.
we could also all interbreed until we're all the same, but even then i doubt that'd work.
sad that there's so many racists' here on the forums...
i hate to say it though, but the only way racism is going to stop entirely is if us humans become extinct.
we could also all interbreed until we're all the same, but even then i doubt that'd work.
I think Maury wasn't strictly talking about economic privilege. Even the simple privilege of not getting hassled by cops to the degree that people of color are, is something most white people take for granted.
If racial profiling isn't rampant in your city , then you are lucky. Just take a trip to a border town for examples of cops who treat people like criminal scum, just because they are brown or black.
White privilege isn't anywhere near where it used to be, but it's still there to certain degree.
This. I believe what we're calling 'economic privilege' is very relevant, and I agree with quite a bit that is being said about it... but I cannot dismiss the fact that at least in my neighborhood, African and Mexican Americans draw the stares and more of the local police. That's discrimination, and something I have the privilege of not having to deal with, at least around here.
Anyone who preaches disunity has an agenda that benefits themselves and only wants to rob you of your rights and freedoms.
oh yes "stares", that's a good one.
The simple fact is things attract our attention for a reason. Some things are more easy to notice, simply because we are not used to them.
If some black kid was walking down my street in a hoodie with has pants bagged down on a hot summer evening I would stare and think that looked suspicious. Why? Well because there are very few black people in my neighborhood. The ones that are here don't behave that way that I've ever seen. So right away I'm seeing something that seems out of place to me. The boy could well belong and I just never seen him. He could be someone's nephew visiting them and walking in or out of the private neighborhood to get something from the corner station or such.
Would that kid be doing something wrong? Nope. He would just seem out of place. Now lets work in some past experience. There have been some cars broken into here that were parked in peoples drives. Also, I previously lived in an area where there were a lot more young people who looked like this young man who were out causing trouble. So I'm going to look at that boy with suspicion. Not because he deserves or has done anything wrong.
(on a side note it turns out the cars were being broken into by some "privileged white boys" who live in the back end of the neighborhood)
There is a white kid who lives down the street and he is totally into that thug life routine I see him out walking the streets or riding his bike all the time. I used to look at him the same way I looked at the hypothetical black kid. Because I seen him so often I took it upon myself to find out what the deal was and started asking around. Turns out he walks and has a 3 wheel bike because he can't drive and has some physical and minor mental developmental issues and he is just into that whole look for whatever reason. There has been no evidence of him ever being involved in any wrong doing. Did he deserve my suspicion?
I see a black guy running through my neighborhood. He is not all hood rat looking. He is wearing stuff a person would go running in, but I hadn't seen him before. Hot his Ipod on his arm band and just jogging along. I know there are some black people that live in this neighborhood and assume he is one of them and never thought to much of it. Turns out he lives here as I've seen him a few times after that on his run or in his car and we would pass each other coming and going.
Most of the time I believe that when a person suspicious of someone they have a reason to be. It may be backwards, or ignorant, but that does not make it racist. A lot of the time people are giving other people a reason to be suspicious of them. It may not be a good reason and they may not even know they are doing such a thing. Really they can't know that in many cases but that's just how it is.
A lot of that suspicion is put into our minds through the media and government with their agenda of keeping the populace divided. We don't see a lot of news about all the good works and things that happen with minority races. We are shown just the opposite. That sort of thing subconsciously instills in people suspicion and distrust. We know rationally that the actions we see from the few don't define the many in any category but the seeds are planted and they are hard to overcome as a society.
It's not racial profiling to be distrustful black who may seem suspicious, when you are in an area that has had a higher rate of crime committed (to your knowledge, be it true or not) by blacks. It maybe foolish of you, it may be ignorant of you, but doubtful it is racist of you. But a person by nature is and needs to be suspicious of those that seem out of place even if their reasons are not sound for such.
If a crime happens and one person says, well I saw a suspicious looking black man. Then the police start looking for that guy, the find him and harass him and it turns out he had nothing to do with the crime, well was he profiled? What if he was the guy who committed the crime and they caught him?
I had to be all harassed by the cops because some bitch pissed at her boyfriend decided she was going to say some guy raped her and the description she gave looked like me and I happened to hang out at that same campus building a lot, and people seen me there around that time. Sure I was pissed, but they were just doing their job. I used to be all fuck the police for a long while after that but I got over it when I grew up.
That's the bottom line, a lot of these fuckers need to grow up. Sure there is racism here in America, but its worse almost everywhere else in the world. Here we call the ugly things out into the light and I like to believe that most of us still want to deal with the issues, while in other parts of the world, that's just daily life and the people being trodden upon just have to live with it.
Anyone who preaches disunity has an agenda that benefits themselves and only wants to rob you of your rights and freedoms.
I agree with this.
You wear the uniform, you get treated as such. Anyone dressed like a thug, someone in a business suit, a girl dressed like a whore, a guy decked out in military garb...all will not be treated "normally" because they are not dressed normally. If a cop pulled you over and was wearing shorts, a t shirt and flip flops, you would not give them the same respect as you would a cop in full uniform. Why? Because human nature.
I will say however...there are strong racial neighborhoods no matter where you go. I have a mixed neighborhood when it comes to blacks and whites...but there is zero representation from Asians or Hispanics. That said, there are places white people do not go (black ghetto) and black people do not go (white ghetto). To quote a black guy that I work with "black folks don't have any business going to Pekin" (a local shit town with a large population of white trash, racist KKK members and meth heads).
On the flip of that...I'd be a fool to go to the local projects over in Peoria...I have no business going there and would be asking for it no matter what I was wearing.
I'm not quite sure about this statement. What exactly do you mean? Everyone has an agenda that benefits themselves. A harmonious community benefits everyone.
sad that there's so many racists' here on the forums...
i hate to say it though, but the only way racism is going to stop entirely is if us humans become extinct.
we could also all interbreed until we're all the same, but even then i doubt that'd work.
Because someone is preaching disunity, fear, and hate and just because the do it under the guise of the selective media, and through the voices of our policy makers the people of this nation far too often fail to see it for what it really is. And why is this being done, because it makes someone somewhere more wealthy, and more powerful.
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
All the race baiting on the TV is to keep the populace divided and distracted from the real is
Let's run a hypothetical scenario. Take the world as it is right now, and completely remove racism from it -- POOF! Racism is gone. Nobody hates anybody based on their race alone, or believes someone to be inferior/superior based on race alone anymore.
You'll still see discrimination. It might be based on class, gender, sexual preference, religion, ethnicity, language, level of education, what have you, but it will still exist. Racism is only a symptom of a larger problem, which in my opinion is ignorance and stupidity. You can treat any of these individual symptoms, but if you're not going to treat the root of the problem, you'll continue to have symptoms crop up. I can tear a wart off, but if I don't dig out the roots, the wart will grow back.
Privileged white people have a LOT of nerve to talk about low income blacks rioting over this issue. Let's not forget recent riots over Joe Paterno's firing, a surfing contest in Huntington Beach, and the 2011 Stanley Cup riot. Hardly ANYONE said anything about these riots. Sure there were news stories but in regards to the public, people were ghosts.
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A black cop shot a black unarmed youth?I fucking love this guy... I was thinking about all the shooting in Chicago a few weeks ago, and wondered why all the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons were quiet, oh yeah... because it was black on black. Nothing to see here.