*UPDATED* NeoGeo proto screenshots
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j'ai eu Bahamut au tel aujourd'hui et il a pas compris ce que je lui ai dis . Donc , moi je te le dis (lolo te le confirmera) : 200 E si t'es OK .
Et oui c moi chamane (kizunos pr les intimes )
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that's great, so where's the beef?
hey, no problem with regards to your english. we thank you very much for posting this and bringing this to our attention. but can i please ask you something?
is it possible for you to post a picture of the games title screen on YOUR television or monitor? i mean, you provided 10 pictures of your item itself, and 1 picture of the title screen which xacrow did more then 7 years ago. so none of those 11 pictures really shows us that you really have this earlier beta version of the game. so again, is it possible that you can provide us with a title screen picture? just asking. thanks.
Hi guys, I up the topic because I have in my possesion this game and I wonder is it exactly?
I i could find no answer by then I come here to see if you can help me.
At the Home screen, I'm super brand volleyball '94 in Japanese, as mentioned in the beginning of post.
We also see great volleyball '94 marked on the carton of the kit. So I wonder what games qul is exactly?
- A boot?
- This famous prototype?
- Something else?
This game has you value it? you it is listed on the price level?
thank you, and dsl if my English is bad ...
hey, no problem with regards to your english. we thank you very much for posting this and bringing this to our attention. but can i please ask you something?
is it possible for you to post a picture of the games title screen on YOUR television or monitor? i mean, you provided 10 pictures of your item itself, and 1 picture of the title screen which xacrow did more then 7 years ago. so none of those 11 pictures really shows us that you really have this earlier beta version of the game. so again, is it possible that you can provide us with a title screen picture? just asking. thanks.
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The one thing that anyone seems to overlook here, is the official JPN-MVS box label sports 'super volley '94' as the JPN title, and 'power spikes II' as the ENG title. The label it's printed, not sketched or whatever proto-like. That's commercial material, not proto stuff.
What we have to assume is thus game just had a first (maybe test) production run with different titles for the JPN and ENG regions, as the majority of NeoGeo games. Then again, they decided to stick with the same title for both regions, typically switching a rom chip prior to the final mass distribution of the game.
What we have to assume is thus game just had a first (maybe test) production run with different titles for the JPN and ENG regions, as the majority of NeoGeo games. Then again, they decided to stick with the same title for both regions, typically switching a rom chip prior to the final mass distribution of the game.
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Picture Please?
Yes, I agree 100% with what you say. It makes perfect sense actually and that is most likely what we have here.
But, again, where's the proof? Can we see a picture of this guy smiling in front of his television with the special title screen on the tv in the picture? DAYS have past and nothing? The thread was active and talkative for a while and then I ask for ONE picture as proof and it suddenly goes silent? Why? It is nothing complicated, I assure you! Take the damn picture already!
It is not that I do not believe him, but let's just make sure that this guy is genuine and not some newbee flake wannabee time waster.
EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if we can "access" the special title screen through a unibios and some hacking with debug functions just like we are able to do so with the Kizuna Encounter tag version title screen.
The one thing that anyone seems to overlook here, is the official JPN-MVS box label sports 'super volley '94' as the JPN title, and 'power spikes II' as the ENG title. The label it's printed, not sketched or whatever proto-like. That's commercial material, not proto stuff.
What we have to assume is thus game just had a first (maybe test) production run with different titles for the JPN and ENG regions, as the majority of NeoGeo games. Then again, they decided to stick with the same title for both regions, typically switching a rom chip prior to the final mass distribution of the game.
Yes, I agree 100% with what you say. It makes perfect sense actually and that is most likely what we have here.
But, again, where's the proof? Can we see a picture of this guy smiling in front of his television with the special title screen on the tv in the picture? DAYS have past and nothing? The thread was active and talkative for a while and then I ask for ONE picture as proof and it suddenly goes silent? Why? It is nothing complicated, I assure you! Take the damn picture already!
It is not that I do not believe him, but let's just make sure that this guy is genuine and not some newbee flake wannabee time waster.
EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if we can "access" the special title screen through a unibios and some hacking with debug functions just like we are able to do so with the Kizuna Encounter tag version title screen.
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Heh, just after posting my own post I swear I thought exactly the same you added with that EDIT of yours. :-)
When these kind of things occur, they usually just update the P-rom on the boards, not the gfx chip. They just forced the same title display for all region, and I'm pretty sure the gfx for the old JPN logo are still on ant Power Spikes II cart out there.
BTW:
Dunk Star mention from Gamest issue #58 (June 1991)
[courtesy of Gemant]
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As far as I know, the cart has been sold elsewhere, hence the lack of update to this topic. I haven't played my copy of the cart in years but I can provide a picture of the title screen in a few weeks if that is anything needed.
It is for sure different to the common Power Spikes II version. On the other hand, I do not remember differences in the attract mode
It is for sure different to the common Power Spikes II version. On the other hand, I do not remember differences in the attract mode
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I would also like to emphasize the fact that the prequel for Power Spikes II is Power Spikes in the ENG territories only, while in Japan it's Super Volley '91 (sequel to the original Super Volley), also ported to the Super Famicom as Super Volley II (Hyper V-Ball in the West).
Why Video System ultimately distributed the game as Power Spikes II in Japan as well is the real mystery, for Japan supposedly never saw a Power Spike release to begin with.
Why Video System ultimately distributed the game as Power Spikes II in Japan as well is the real mystery, for Japan supposedly never saw a Power Spike release to begin with.
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Yes, we would like to see it...
As far as I know, the cart has been sold elsewhere, hence the lack of update to this topic. I haven't played my copy of the cart in years but I can provide a picture of the title screen in a few weeks if that is anything needed.
It is for sure different to the common Power Spikes II version. On the other hand, I do not remember differences in the attract mode
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Hello it's me that i have buy the MVS of Super Volley '94.
I have posted some pictures for you can see the title of the game.
The intro of the game is different to Power Spikes II.
I have posted some pictures for you can see the title of the game.
The intro of the game is different to Power Spikes II.
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Yes, i have promise to make this.
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Thank you and congratulations on your purchase!
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Awesome, thanks a lot for sharing!
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Thanks.
Nice...As soon as dump will be available, it will be added to Final Burn Alpha (like B2B and ToTC)
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Ok, in the meanwhile, let's try to do some exercise:
first of all, a useful thread about JPN MVS labels:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?206106-Jap-MVS-Box-Labels-in-deep
Please note the *foreign* Fighter History Dynamite kit, with *Japanese* title on BOTH the sides of the ~square~ label.
Please note that such japanese -style label is above a first one, which clearly shows *Karnow's revenge* on the white side (following the usual rule).
My idea is, the label underneath is a Japanese one, and the above is , as often happened, a relabeling for export use (like ASOII/Alpha mIssion 2 AES carts).
Can't say why it kept the JPN title on both ides, even if the original label beneath says they already decided the title for foreign markets….maybe it has to do with the legal issues with Capcom, who knows.
Now, below the pictures of an "export" Power Spikes II kit (AFAIK the only kit available, please correct me):
Another official foreign release (all artworks are indeed in english), but with an uncommon japanese-style label.
Now, back to SuperVolley '94 kit, seems that the flyers are quite the same (not completely, far from Spanish language) and the box label differs, so it could be an early run, but for foreign market.
As seen many times, no pattern can be really read, but I think that SNK used square labels also for foreign markets (1994?), deviating from the usual rule square=JPN, horizontal label= US/EURO, and both games are probably foreign-only releases.
A wild guess: "SuperVolley '94" has been retired from JPN market due to legal issues, explaining why they had to quickly change the title (the code ROM) and keep only foreign versions.
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for reference, the flyer:
first of all, a useful thread about JPN MVS labels:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?206106-Jap-MVS-Box-Labels-in-deep
Please note the *foreign* Fighter History Dynamite kit, with *Japanese* title on BOTH the sides of the ~square~ label.
Please note that such japanese -style label is above a first one, which clearly shows *Karnow's revenge* on the white side (following the usual rule).
My idea is, the label underneath is a Japanese one, and the above is , as often happened, a relabeling for export use (like ASOII/Alpha mIssion 2 AES carts).
Can't say why it kept the JPN title on both ides, even if the original label beneath says they already decided the title for foreign markets….maybe it has to do with the legal issues with Capcom, who knows.
Now, below the pictures of an "export" Power Spikes II kit (AFAIK the only kit available, please correct me):
Another official foreign release (all artworks are indeed in english), but with an uncommon japanese-style label.
Now, back to SuperVolley '94 kit, seems that the flyers are quite the same (not completely, far from Spanish language) and the box label differs, so it could be an early run, but for foreign market.
As seen many times, no pattern can be really read, but I think that SNK used square labels also for foreign markets (1994?), deviating from the usual rule square=JPN, horizontal label= US/EURO, and both games are probably foreign-only releases.
A wild guess: "SuperVolley '94" has been retired from JPN market due to legal issues, explaining why they had to quickly change the title (the code ROM) and keep only foreign versions.
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for reference, the flyer:
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As someone who works in the field of release management and automation, I'd like to stress that most companies today do not have a formal and documented release process. They, for lack of a better term, usually wing it. That's during a time when the understanding of the importance of properly tracking releases, and your IPs is even more important than ever. So.... As interesting as it is to try and draw conclusions for some sort of standards in release for the SNK titles, I can say with almost complete assurance that they did not have any sort of formal release standard they used to label Japanese and regional releases. Any correlation would simply mean they either A) got lucky, or B) had the same person doing the releases and that was just his/her method of doing it
In otherwords, don't drive yourselves crazy looking for a release standard that surely isn't there.
In otherwords, don't drive yourselves crazy looking for a release standard that surely isn't there.
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Honestly...I find this kind of chit-chat about labels, way far interesting than 3/4 of the whole forum...
Anyway, if you'll need as much information/funfacts as possible about PowerSpikesII and JPN labels , you know where to get them:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showt...-screenshots&p=3365498&viewfull=1#post3365498