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According to Chavo Guerrero Jr, Chavo Guerrero Sr. was diagnosed with liver cancer in early January and today brings word the longtime pro wrestler has died at the age of 68:
 

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He interfered in one of Chavo Guerrero Jr's matches in Lucha Underground. He had been sitting ringside, and during the match he hit his son with a chair to get the opponent disqualified. It was pretty classic. The fans even chanted "Chavo Classic"
 

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Two things

1) RIP Chavo Classic

2) regarding recent happenings in ROH my thoughts are
 
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He was my hero back when I was a kid
You let me down but Chavo never once did
You called him names to try to get beneath my skin
Now your ashes are scattered on the wind
 

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WWE Elimination Chamber PPV Results: 2-12-17

Results courtesy of PWTorch.com (direct link to Keller's ongoing report).

(1) BECKY LYNCH vs. MICKIE JAMES

When Otunga talked about this being a new generation vs. the previous generation, JBL said had she not left seven years ago, she壇 have been on top and still be on top, trying to sell the idea that she痴 not some nostalgia act, which is a good point to make It痴 not like Mickie is Sting was, a wrestler in their mid-50s coming back for a special attraction match. She痴 younger than John Cena and a year older than Randy Orton. Back and forth match until Mickie went on sustained offense around 7:00. She scored a near fall after a superkick. Lynch came back with a jackknife for the leverage pin after a rapid-fire series of reversals.

WINNER: Lynch at 11:40.

(2) DOLPH ZIGGLER vs. APOLLO CREWS & KALISTO

Before the match, Ziggler attacked Kalisto. So it become a one-on-one match. Did someone plan that from the beginning of announcing the two babyfaces vs. one heel match, or did someone realize a two babyface vs. one heel match was unprecedentedly stupid that they decided to knock Kalisto out of the match before it started? Check that. A few minutes in, Kalisto tried to come out to the ring, but he was holding his back. A ref at ringside tried to stop him. Crews gave Ziggler an enzuigiri. Mauro yelled, å…¸hat put Ziggler in Airplane Mode! Thatç—´ a good one. In the end, Kalisto entered and gave Ziggler a spin kick, and then Crews tagged in and landed a spinning powerbomb for the win.

WINNERS: Crews & Kalisto at 7:20.

-Afterward, Ziggler snapped and knocked Kalisto off the ring apron. Then he put Crewsç—´ ankle in a chair and stomped on it. Mauro said, æ»´ow can anyone defend the actions of Dolph Ziggler! Ziggler put the chair around his ankle again. JBL said somebody needs to stop him. Too bad every other wrestler in WWE was apparently locked away in some far-away room. Ziggler stomped Crewsç—´ ankle again. Kalisto recovered and checked on Crews. As Ziggler left, the fans chanted å…¸hank you, Ziggler!

(Keller痴 Analysis: Rough crowd. The crowd reaction isn稚 a sign that fans like heels and will cheer whatever they do; it痴 a sign that nothing has been done to get Crews over with the adult male fanbase who attend PPVs.)

(3) TAG TEAM TURMOIL

稗REEZANGO vs. HEATH SLATER & RHYNO

WINNERS: Rhyno & Slater with a Gore by Rhyno.

謬HE VAUDEVILLIANS vs. SLATER & RHYNO

As the Vaudevillians ran out, Mauro said, 笛ust like a Snapchat photo, Breezango are gone.

WINNERS: Slater & Rhyno at 4:30.

謬HE USOS vs. SLATER & RHYNO

It didn稚 take long, and it made sense for the Usos to eliminate Slater & Rhyno after Slater & Rhyno were worn down from the previous two opponents.

WINNERS: The Usos at 6:45.

柊MERICAN ALPHA vs. THE USOS

Gable eliminated Jay Uso with a leverage pin. The Usos jumped Gable afterward, then threw Jordan shoulder-first into the ringpost. They continued the beatdown for another minute.

WINNERS: American Alpha at 9:45.

謬HE ASCENSION vs. AMERICAN ALPHA

JBL said his favorite all along has been The Ascension. They bumped shoulders with the Usos on their way to the ring. They went to work on Jordan who looked more out of it than Holly Holm after the late punch she took last night at UFC 208. Gable saved Jordan from the three count, although the ref could have kept counting because the 都ave didn稚 result in Jordan痴 shoulder being lifted or Konnor not being on top. I don稚 get why it makes sense for a ref to stop finishing the third slap on the mat just because someone illegal hits the legal opponent on their back. Alpha came back with Grand Amplitude for the pin on Konnor. JBL revised history and said they were his pick all along. Otunga called him on it.

WINNERS: American Alpha to retain the WWE Smackdown Tag Team Titles at 15:20.

(Kellerç—´ Analysis: The match was fine given the rules. The relatively quick pins in the early falls occurred with lower-end teams, so it was more believable. Alpha overcoming the Usos, the post-fall attack, and the Ascension was a logical way to close out the match. It still didn稚 add up to anything that felt like a match that needed to be on PPV or felt important. I壇 much rather see two teams that are over have a full-fledged regular length match. This type of gimmicky tag match feels like a crutch for a poorly booked tag division. I知 relieved they haven稚 decided to give Ascension a major push out of nowhere. Theyæ±♥e still just not believable as badasses in how they carry themselves, but at least they致e deviated from the Road Warrior look.)

(4) NIKKI BELLA vs. NATALYA

A few minutes in, Nikki leaped off the ring apron and knocked Natalya down at ringside. Otunga said Nikki is underrated, 殿nd she knows what she is doing, trust me. Natalya shoved Nikki into the ringpost a minute later. Natalya did the 添ou can稚 see me hand wave to taunt Nikki. She then did a cocky trot around the ring before applying a sleeper on her mid-ring. Nikki arm-dragged out of it. Nikki angrily went right back on offense and did the hand-save taunt again. She got distracted by a fan and did the hand wave, and Nikki schoolgirled her for a two count. Natalya went right back on offense again. Nikki came back and hit Natalya with a forearm. Natalya landed a superplex, but she was slow to get up herself from the impact of the landing. Natalya beat the ref痴 two count and then applied a Sharpshooter. Nikki crawled over toward the bottom rope, but Natalya dragged he back to the middle. Nikki twisted free and pivoted right into the 擢earless Lock. She applied that better than Cena, I壇 say. Natalya crawled over and grabbed the bottom rope. Natalya and Nikki battled at ringside and the ref counted them both out. The crowd groaned.

WINNER: Double countout.

-Natalya attacked Nikki afterward.
 
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WWE Elimination Chamber PPV Results: 2-12-17

(5) RANDY ORTON vs. LUKE HARPER

The bell rang 90 minutes into the main card. Otunga said Harper was unpredictable when he was Wyatt, but now who knows what he値l be like. He shoulder tackled Orton to drop him at the start. Otunga put over Harperç—´ athleticism and speed. He said he値l do things you壇 only expect cruiserweight to do. Orton circled the perimeter of the ring. Harper went after him. Orton eventually took over and got in sustained offense. He then climbed the second rope and posed to taunt the crowd, or è￾Ÿose for the WWE Universe, as Mauro said. Orton applied a chinlock. Harper fought out of it. He landed a big boot for a two count at 8:00. Harper dropped Orton back-first over the announce table. Harper banged the desk and played to the crowd a bit. Orton surprised Harper with a snap powerslam. Orton knocked Harper off balance on top rope. Orton went for an RKO a minute later, but Harper stopped short. Orton dropped him with a Full Nelson slam instead for a two count. After a DDT, JBL said, é„♥s that great play-by-play announcer said, vintage Orton!! What, heç—´ not allowed to say Michael Coleç—´ name? Harper came back with a superkick. Orton tried to stay on his feet, but Harper hit another superkick for a two count. Harper stood over Orton and spread his arms. Orton recovered and went for an RKO. Harper escaped and kicked Orton in the gut. Then he gave Orton a sitout powerbomb for a near fall. Mauro sold it with drama. Eventually Orton scored the clean win with an RKO after Orton blocked a discus clothesline. Otunga immediately said he had to give credit to Harper for putting up such a long hard fight.

WINNER: Orton in 18:00. (**3/4)

(Keller痴 Analysis: Good match, but as usual with Orton, too often it just seemed to lack urgency and it felt 15 percent slower and more methodical than it should have. With the allotment of time they had, this was supposed to come across as epic, but it ended up coming up short of that, although it had its moments when they turned up the pace and intensity. There were too many spots where each wrestler postured for the crowd and that led to their opponent recovering and making a comeback. That痴 fine for a heel, but Harper looked like he didn稚 care enough about winning or didn稚 have the mental focus to stay on task when he did that.)

(6) ALEXA BLISS vs. NAOMI WWE Smackdown Womenç—´ Title match

Naomi popped Bliss in the chin early. Bliss came back and applied a chinlock. They went into a nice sequence off the ropes of a couple near fall reversals. They knocked each other down with simultaneous blows. Naomi went on a flurry of offense including a somersault clothesline and a dive into the corner. She hit a blockbuster off the top rope for a two count. Naomi lifted her knees when Alexa went for a splash on her, then flip splashed her and scored the three count.

WINNER: Naomi to capture the WWE Womenç—´ Championship.

(7) JOHN CENA vs. THE MIZ vs. BRAY WYATT vs. DEAN AMBROSE vs. BARON CORBIN vs. A.J. STYLES

Styles was the last out before Cena. Bray came out right before Styles. Cena, appropriately, came out last. The Chamber structure is all new this year.

It opened with Styles vs. Cena and the other four locked in pods. JBL put over the Styles-Cena match last month at the Rumble as one of the greatest matches in 鉄ports Entertainment history. Early on Styles applied the Torture Rack, which has again been renamed into the æ¾±ack breaker rack. A battle chant broke out: é„♥.J. Styles! / Letç—´ Go Cena!

Cena had Styles down and signaled for the Five Knuckle Shuffle, but then Ambrose was released from his pod. He went to work on Cena. He threw him into the chain fence. Mauro called it ç♥¥nforgiving, although it was pretty much by definition å￾￾orgiving. Ambrose then turned to Styles and gave him a suplex onto the surface at ringside. That prompted a æ»´oly sh? chant. Mauro said he was trying to shatter Stylesç—´ spine. Ambrose stood on top of his pod and then leaped onto Cena outside the ring on the platform. Another æ»´oly sh? chant. Otunga said while most people are scared of the Chamber, Ambrose is like a kid in a candy store. The crowd chanted å…¸his is awesome! which felt a little generous at this point in the match. Cena suplexed Styles and Ambrose as Ambrose was trying to German suplex Styles. JBL said that was God-given strength.

Out next was Bray. When the countdown clock approached zero, they showed an overhead cam of the Chamber with the lights blinking in the occupied pods, and then the light stops on the pod chosen. It looks like a game show. As Ambrose was going to powerbomb Styles, Bray sunset flipped them off the top rope and Styles took a big bump. Miz gasped from his pod and the crowd again chanted æ»´oly sh?

Corbin was released next. Cena put him in an STF. Corbin came back with an End of Days. Dean then threw Corbin over and over into the side of the Chamber. Corbin came back and threw Dean head-first into the chain fence. When Ambrose climbed to the top of a pod, Corbin knocked him off of it.

Miz was the final wrestler released. He stood there and tok his time stepping out as Corbin yelled for him to come get him. That gave Ambrose time to recover and schoolboy Corbin for a three count.

ELIMINATION #1: Corbin.

Corbin beat up Ambrose afterward. Two referees tried to stop him. Miz opportunistically schoolboyed Ambrose to eliminate him.

ELIMINATION #2: Ambrose

Miz took turns Yes kicking Cena and Bray. Styles recovered and entered. Miz went right after him with some round kicks against Styles in the corner. Miz gave Bray a Skull Crushing Finale at ringside. Cena rolled through a Miz body block and hit the AA for the pin.

ELIMINATION #3: Miz at 23:30.

Styles and Bray eventually double-teamed Cena. Cena made a comeback and delivered a lame looking Ten-Knuckle Shuffle on Bray and Styles. Styles came back with a Styles Clash for a near fall. Cena landed an Attitude Adjustment a minute later for a believable near fall. Cena leaped off a pod onto both Bray and Styles. Bray escaped an AA attempt and hit Sister Abigail for the win. Mauro declared that either Styels or Bray will be the new WWE Champion.

ELIMINATION #4: Cena.

Bray smiled and went after Styles, who looked like he was hurting. Bray battered Styles with a barrage of forearms to the back of Stylesç—´ neck. Interesting they booked the final two as heels. Styles slide-kicked Bray as he charged at him. Bray came back with went for a Sister Abigail. Styles escaped. Bray took Styles down with a hard clothesline for a near fall. Styles went for a Pele Kick and then a flying knee to take Bray down. Styles was slow to get up and make a cover. He rolled to ringside and then springboard 450 splashed Bray for a two count. Bray countered a Phenomenal Forearm into a Sister Abigail for the win. The director chose to cut two fans smiling and celebrating the win by the heel. Mauro said, å…¸he era of Wyatt is here! JBL said, çš„magine what Bray Wyatt is going to do as champion. Otunga said heç—´ warned everyone for years and the time has finally come. They ended with a shot of Randy Orton standing on the stage watching Bray celebrate. The announcers wondered if this meant Orton vs. Bray.

ELIMINATION #5: Styles.

WINNER: Wyatt to capture the WWE World Hvt. Title. (****)

(Kellerç—´ Analysis: Good match. I think most fans were genuinely surprised by the finish.)
 
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It had felt odd that Orton was following Bray. Now that Wyatt's the champ, it's more understandable I guess.
 

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Wyatt is a hack, but at least they finally did something with him. Now maybe he can stop cutting the same promo every week.
 

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Wyatt is a hack, but at least they finally did something with him. Now maybe he can stop cutting the same promo every week.

Now he gets to cut one at the top of the show, at the mid point, and a run-in to close out the show.
 

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Some more positive TNA news:
-They're going back to Soundstage 21 at Universal Studios, AKA the original Impact Zone. Since returning to the theme park they had been alternating between Soundstage 20 and 19. 21 holds almost twice as many people and is much better suited in general for wrestling.
-There is talk of Josh Mathews being replaced on commentary by former Global Force commentator Cryus Fees
-The next set of tapings will be the first with Jarrett's new creative team in place
 

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That has to be the worst TNA signing since the last time they trotted the nWo out there
 

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Man New Japan has been on fire since WK11. If you missed it check out Takahashi vs Dragon Lee and Naito vs Elgin from Saturday. Both were great matches.
 

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Going back to Wrestle Circus this Sunday for Ricochet and to see what's all the hype with ZSJ:

Spoiler:
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Copy and pasted matches:

Main Event #1: Ricochet vs. Sammy Guevara
• Main Event #2: Ringmaster Title Match: Brian Cage vs. Zack Sabre Jr.
• WrestleCircus Sideshow Championship Match: Scorpio Sky (c) vs. Jordan Len-X
• Lady of the Ring Elimination Match: Rachael Ellering vs. Sexy Dulce vs. Tessa Blanchard (no longer on the card) vs. Chelsea Green
• Big Top Tag-Team Championship Battle Royal: Guerillas of Destiny vs. Killer Elite Squad (Hoyt's out with injury) vs. Pretty Boy Killers vs. Extra Talent-ed
• Triple Threat Match: Rey Fénix vs. Shane Strickland vs. Dezmond Xavier
• Jax Dane Open Invitation: Jax Dane vs. ???
• First Time Ever: ACH vs. Jeff Cobb
• Battle of Honor: Ray "Death" Rowe vs. Donovan Dijak
• #HUGEinJapan: Scott Norton vs. Joey Ryan

People are already saying Wrestle Circus is the PWG of the south. Not sure if the comparison is apt.
 
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Sad news about Steele.

In unrelated news, Jeff Jarrett and some of the big wigs at Anthem are in the UK meeting with ITV. There is talk that they may put Jarrett in charge of their World of Sport reboot because they don't know how to run a wrestling promotion. This could also lead to a new UK TV deal for TNA, if not on ITV itself then one of their affiliated channels.

Anthem seems to be doing everything right since taking over:
-Bring back the creative team from the era when Impact was the best wrestling show on TV
-Establish working relationships with promotions like Noah and Crash, allowing access to tons of big name talent with little financial risk
-Phasing the TNA name out; it looks like they're just waiting for Don West to finish clearing out all the merch with the old name on it before fully rebranding
-Going back to the original Impact Zone for TV tapings
-Taping fewer episodes at a time, allowing for more bookings for talent and fresher episodes on TV
-Completely remove Dixie Carter from any decision making or publicly visible position
-Planning to take their new UK phone app worldwide
-Actually paying people on time
-Planning to return to running house shows later this year
-Running shows in the UK and India this year

They haven't had their first set of tapings with Jarrett, Mantel, and D'Amore in charge yet, so it should be interesting to see how much things change.

Now they just need to address their horrible logo and commentary situation, and get Sandow off my fucking TV screen.
 

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Sad news about Steele.

In unrelated news, Jeff Jarrett and some of the big wigs at Anthem are in the UK meeting with ITV. There is talk that they may put Jarrett in charge of their World of Sport reboot because they don't know how to run a wrestling promotion. This could also lead to a new UK TV deal for TNA, if not on ITV itself then one of their affiliated channels.

Anthem seems to be doing everything right since taking over:
-Bring back the creative team from the era when Impact was the best wrestling show on TV
-Establish working relationships with promotions like Noah and Crash, allowing access to tons of big name talent with little financial risk
-Phasing the TNA name out; it looks like they're just waiting for Don West to finish clearing out all the merch with the old name on it before fully rebranding
-Going back to the original Impact Zone for TV tapings
-Taping fewer episodes at a time, allowing for more bookings for talent and fresher episodes on TV
-Completely remove Dixie Carter from any decision making or publicly visible position
-Planning to take their new UK phone app worldwide
-Actually paying people on time
-Planning to return to running house shows later this year
-Running shows in the UK and India this year

They haven't had their first set of tapings with Jarrett, Mantel, and D'Amore in charge yet, so it should be interesting to see how much things change.

Now they just need to address their horrible logo and commentary situation, and get Sandow off my fucking TV screen.


It has to be a whole lot better than what they have on tv now, I spent most of this weeks episode hitting the fast forward button
 

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It has to be a whole lot better than what they have on tv now, I spent most of this weeks episode hitting the fast forward button

Back in the vcr days, I watched a lot of wrestling that way. You can tell when someone was about to hit their finisher so I'd hit play, watch and go back to fast forwarding. Knock out the bs that way.
 

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It has to be a whole lot better than what they have on tv now, I spent most of this weeks episode hitting the fast forward button
I agree, a lot of this week was bad. Especially the Bennett/Kanellis/Allie/Sutter/Laurel crap. They should have finished that feud months ago

I wish we could have seen more from the Hardys vs Psicosis and Super Crazy but they fucked up and let a Lucha Underground ref work the match, so they had to blur it and only show highlights.

But the guy who booked all that shit is almost completely out of power now.

On the upside, the actual Hardy story segments are still good and Eddie vs Davey was a good TV match.

And Josh Barnett showing up was hype
 
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