NEOSD MVS Support thread !

[Razoola]

Forget about trying to reproduce the pulstar issue in a emulator like that. There is an outside chance it might happen in MAME but its doubtful. What is really needed is a test with a real Pulstar cart on real hardware.

 

[fille1976]

yep,on page 14 is a photo off it.
i cant see it here,will try again.
im playing it right now,but how do you reproduce it?
i have arcade mode in the menu also as yes

 

[Nostromo]

yep,on page 14 is a photo off it.
i cant see it here,will try again.
im playing it right now,but how do you reproduce it?
i have arcade mode in the menu also as yes

Just start the game normally - sometimes the stage select is corrupted. If it is not, switch off and back on and try again. Raz said it took him 20 times for this to happen.

 

[fille1976]

but my feeling says that if its the game it should be there always.
could it not be that maybe an mv1b react a little bit different with neosd then other revisions.

 

[Nostromo]

but my feeling says that if its the game it should be there always.

Yep thats what I think too - but Razoola said in one of his posts that he has a hunch of what this may be and tomorrow he will tell NeoSD. Hopefully tomorrow they can replicate and fix it.
Anyway I guess Raz can tell us why the glitch doesn't always manifest itself?

 

[fille1976]

hopefully they fix it,but here cant see the bug.
let me died for more as 15 times,shows as normal here.

 

[Nostromo]

Well, thanks for trying

 

[fille1976]

this is the same as some have on snes with sd2snes and msu1
some revisions of snes react or timing is a fraction different maybe then other revs.

 

[neodev]

this is the same as some have on snes with sd2snes and msu1
some revisions of snes react or timing is a fraction different maybe then other revs.

I don't think it's a timing issue, as Raz has a different model. Tomorrow I'll try in all the models I own. I'll also check something in the emu, I have some more ideas of what the game might be doing to cause issues (and that wouldn't cause an issue on mame)

 

[fille1976]

its a strange problem,but im not have the problem,nor with kof 2003 and metal slug 5,but those are maybe different.

 

[neodev]

its a strange problem,but im not have the problem,nor with kof 2003 and metal slug 5,but those are maybe different.

Yes, but I think that's an entirely different problem.

 

[aku]

Just start the game normally - sometimes the stage select is corrupted....

i am pretty sure, that this happened to me once with one of my original pulstar carts...

 

[dkarDaGobert]

So the plan for tomorrow is :
a) compile you a firmware to revert your neosd to retail, do the same for Sceptre_JLRB cause he still has the beta firmware aswel.
b) fix 4slot issue, compile a firmware and sent it to dkarDaGobert so he can try it.
c) see if we can reproduce Nostromos issue, and fix it.

especially b) sounds great! i dont have to work today so enough time for testing

 

[Nostromo]

i am pretty sure, that this happened to me once with one of my original pulstar carts...

Hmmm how come this was never noticed and documented before I came across it? O_O

 

[neosd]

Hmmm how come this was never noticed and documented before I came across it? O_O

Hello

Because NEOSD is being deeply examinated looking for flaws (and this is good at all). So things such as this one, no one cared about on original games, i have a feeling about i saw this splited menu back ago on an original game aswel, but i thought this was normal, that the developers wanted to make it look this way.

So far we know that samurai shodown 5 special needs a redump and that there is an undumped version of pulstar out there that may be intended to fix this bug (or not ...). That tells a lot about this situation, cause no one cared to redump those for years, until now.

Thanks

 

[Nostromo]

Hello

Because NEOSD is being deeply examinated looking for flaws (and this is good at all). So things such as this one, no one cared about on original games, i have a feeling about i saw this splited menu back ago on an original game aswel, but i thought this was normal, that the developers wanted to make it look this way.

So far we know that samurai shodown 5 special needs a redump and that there is an undumped version of pulstar out there that may be intended to fix this bug (or not ...). That tells a lot about this situation, cause no one cared to redump those for years, until now.

Thanks

So it is 100% a ROM problem with Pulstar?

 

[neosd]

So it is 100% a ROM problem with Pulstar?

Hello

So far we know that this happens with 161 in 1 and 120 in 1. We need that someone with the original game confirms this is happening there aswel.
NEOSD is totally different to 161 in 1 and 120 in 1, so right now we consider this a game bug at all.

Thanks

 

[aku]

it should be enough to softreboot and check the stage select a few times? maybe i can test it after work...

 

[GadgetUK]

Hi, the replacement cart arrived today (thanks!!!) and just tested over lunch - I've got CRC issues still =/ But... The strange thing is with this cart the graphical glitch that occured in KoF2003 is not present. KoF2003 looks OK, so I am not sure if it does have the 'lines fix' firmware or the latest firmware. I will email you a video so you can see the issue on the new cart - no point in uploading it here its just the same stuff already shown. I will test on the other boards I have soon - still waiting for the damn 27C1024 chips, I might just take the unibios out of my main system later and test with that.

 

[neosd]

Hello,

Email us a picture of the software verstion that it has please.

Thanks

Also, please, dont mix parts from one neosd to another, we dont want to have to ship a third neosd
Lets not put more vars to the party

EDIT :

Yes, this is the beta firmware, we are going to send you the retail firmware in some minutes.

Hi, the replacement cart arrived today (thanks!!!) and just tested over lunch - I've got CRC issues still =/ But... The strange thing is with this cart the graphical glitch that occured in KoF2003 is not present. KoF2003 looks OK, so I am not sure if it does have the 'lines fix' firmware or the latest firmware. I will email you a video so you can see the issue on the new cart - no point in uploading it here its just the same stuff already shown. I will test on the other boards I have soon - still waiting for the damn 27C1024 chips, I might just take the unibios out of my main system later and test with that.

 

[GadgetUK]

Hello,

Email us a picture of the software verstion that it has please.

Thanks

Also, please, dont mix parts from one neosd to another, we dont want to have to ship a third neosd
Lets not put more vars to the party

Thanks

I've just sent you a video which shows the serial numbers and things at the end of the demo of the problem with CRC. Yes, I won't mix them up - for now I will just put this new cart back into its anti static bag - there's no point in me testing further with that cart I think at this stage. Much appreciate it though and hopefully things will become clearer when I've tested both carts on some other MV1FZ and my 4 slot.

 

[neosd]

Thanks

Firmware sent, let us know the results

I've just sent you a video which shows the serial numbers and things at the end of the demo of the problem with CRC. Yes, I won't mix them up - for now I will just put this new cart back into its anti static bag - there's no point in me testing further with that cart I think at this stage. Much appreciate it though and hopefully things will become clearer when I've tested both carts on some other MV1FZ and my 4 slot.

 

[GadgetUK]

Thanks

Firmware sent, let us know the results

Thanks! That's bricked it for the moment - hopefully another forced FW update might solve that. Just a white bar in the middle of the screen after the update.

EDIT: Tried a few thing suggested and still got the same problem. Hopefully its not perma bricked and a later update might bring it back to life.

 

[nio]

Thats what I was scared about! But everybody said thats easy fixable.

 

[GadgetUK]

Thats what I was scared about! But everybody said thats easy fixable.

Yeah, don't let the stuff going on with my cart worry you - we are doing some weird sh** with the carts I am testing lol (ie. test code etc). I am sure the situation this test cart is in at the moment can be resolved, it just takes some time. Normal updates are easy and safe to apply.