Yeesh - I thought the citizenship / suffrage / physical punishment thing was supposed to reflect a dystopia. But I Googled and, nope, he was genuinely into it.I understand the book is not anti-war.
The movie is brilliant because you can take it at face value or you can wonder more about what kind of society this one government controlling Earth is like.Stahship Troopiz, kid. It ain't good.
Srsly, though. Wasn't the book a parody / scathing take on the military industrial complex? And the movie is just "Yeah boys, let's kill the bugs. Also a boob."
This is the worst opinion you've ever posted here. That movie is fantastic.Watched Starship Troopers again last night (rifftrax version). God that movie is shit.
Still better than the book tho.
You should try watching it again, but this time with your eyes open. It went completely over your head. Directed by a guy who experienced fascism firsthand as a child and saw how seductive and how easily an entire people could be caught up in it.And the movie is just "Yeah boys, let's kill the bugs. Also a boob."
This is the worst opinion you've ever posted here. That movie is fantastic.
You should try watching it again, but this time with your eyes open. It went completely over your head. Directed by a guy who experienced fascism firsthand as a child and saw how seductive and how easily an entire people could be caught up in it.
"Let's kill the bugs"? The bugs are the good guys fighting (and losing) a defensive war against the invading fascist human state. That's plainly (though unintentionally, in-story) presented in one of the news reports in the middle of the movie. The story follows Rico, who starts as dumb but somewhat innocent and ends still just as dumb, but now an active participant in evil. The 90201 teen bubblegum shit was intentional camouflage to hide the swerve of what the movie's about.
You missed the point as much as the people who watched All in the Family and thought it was a show about Archie Bunker being the lone voice of reason in a sea of insanity. But you're far from alone. A lot of people never looked past the CG spectacle surface and rousing score, cheering when the characters get their tattoos, or when the brain bug is scared and whatnot, taking everything at face value. Verhoven drastically overestimated the intelligence of his audience.
Working.News: A murderer was captured this morning and tried today.
Judge: "Guilty."
News: Sentence: death. Execution tonight at 6, all net, all channels.
edit: wait wtf is The Kid doing up at 4AM.
Who cares if you like it? It's just disheartening that you couldn't understand what you were watching, even at 15. But again, that wasn't just you. The majority of at least the American audience blanked out through it as well. Even some of the reviewers of the time missed it.Relax, dude. I was like 15 when I saw it. Sorry I didn't like your movie.
It really wasn't.It's not particularly subtle.
If you're going to tell me that all of that was intentional (Verhoeven was trying to make an intentionally bad movie to mock Americans and piss on Heinlein's face) then good for him for wasting the studio's money
No it hasn't.Yeah, it's pretty obnoxious, been brought up in this thread a couple times.
I what horny thought of Robocop?
So, you are judging it as an adaptation of the book? I've admittedly never read the novel - but as a film, it's definitely in my "Top 20" alongside films like Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Holy Mountain, Eraserhead, etc. (to give context) - the "bad acting" (which is really similar to something like Lynch, in terms of controlling the dimensions/depth of a character) is intentional in my opinion, much in the same vein of Showgirls. The CGI is limited, as Phil Tippet did an amazing job of working in tons of practical...which I think has aged incredibly well. It's honestly an almost flawless film.I "get" Starship Troopers and still think it sucks. I totally get the joke/meta nature of the movie (mocking nationalism/propaganda/American exceptionalism/military industrial complex and even mocking the structure and vapid nature of action movies). It's not particularly subtle.
However, at some point, you still have to make a good movie and Starship Troopers is full of bad actors giving bad performances in front of boring CGI bugs in the middle of the desert. If you're going to tell me that all of that was intentional (Verhoeven was trying to make an intentionally bad movie to mock Americans and piss on Heinlein's face) then good for him for wasting the studio's money but I don't enjoy bad movies even if it's intentional.
I "get" Starship Troopers and still think it sucks. I totally get the joke/meta nature of the movie (mocking nationalism/propaganda/American exceptionalism/military industrial complex and even mocking the structure and vapid nature of action movies). It's not particularly subtle.
However, at some point, you still have to make a good movie and Starship Troopers is full of bad actors giving bad performances in front of boring CGI bugs in the middle of the desert. If you're going to tell me that all of that was intentional (Verhoeven was trying to make an intentionally bad movie to mock Americans and piss on Heinlein's face) then good for him for wasting the studio's money but I don't enjoy bad movies even if it's intentional.
Love that movie. I wish I'd brought the dvd with me.alongside films like Picnic at Hanging Rock,
That does look promising. But the only other movie of his I've seen, A Ghost Story, had a great central concept but was just okay.In other news, I am gearing up for The Green Knight this Saturday.