Giby told me some sad news about SNKP

[c.t.h]

Seriously,

This board has more LAME COMPLAINERS on it than I've ever seen. You seem to think SNKP's main priority is to make the .004% of you that ONLY want the neo hardware happy. You guys DONT care what's best for the company, it's all about YOU YOU YOU. You're already lucky they've made homecarts for this long, etc etc.

Somebody that really loves the company and games, would want whats best for them. They obviously think this is whats best - you can't run a good business developing games for THIRTEEN YEAR OLD HARDWARE.

They could hang you with a new rope, and you'd still complain...

<small>[ September 11, 2003, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: c.t.h ]</small>

 

[JHendrix]

supergoose79:

Amano Jacu: Once again, when EW runs out of arguments and has no idea on how to support his own point of view, he relies on smart-assed comments, funny pics, changes of topic, and soon enough he'll use his ultimate weapon a menace of using his mod powers against whoever doesn't agree with the dogma of this board. All this on an attempt to feel superior to the other inferior posters.

Oh, yeah, right.

don't blame others, if you don't get it ...

No, I think he gets it just fine.

No offense but this is the truth: There are very few people who will be upset by this change in SNKP and the potential amount of people who will be happy with it is large.

They'll make more money, thus make more games. Things will probably get much more popular again and the amount of available competiton will go up.

More people to play = more fun for me. And $60 import PS2 games = a lot more money going to save for a deposit on a house. wink

Edit for EW: Where are the Arcadia numbers???

<small>[ September 11, 2003, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: JHendrix ]</small>

 

[Amano Jacu]

xtoo_short20x:
You are so sure about things, it is actually
funny and ridiculous.

At least he tries to reason what he says, a thing you don't find necessary at all, as you always act like the Supreme Holder of the Truth that doesn't need to explain himself.

At Supergoose: Yeah, EW was trying some kind of alegory between Zombies and letting die or not a company before it goes to the decadence. Pretty smart. At least I got some words, JHendrix only got a pic, now you explain me the deep meaning (as I can only see the obvious one) inside it. Still, he only quoted half of my post. And I was not talking only about this thread, he tends to do that a lot of times. And so does many other people here.

 

[kalninja]

In the back of everyones mind, I think we all would like to see SNKP make a new system. A new system that is home/arcade identical. A system that has also has a cartridge slot in the back that will play aes AES games as well. This would not mean the death of neo geo. I think that a system like this would spark interest among all, a new system that also plays old games. If GC had a cartridge slot that played nes, snes, and 64 games, most of the members here would own that system. All SNKP has to do is plan ahead like they did with neo geo, so that it will last for at least another 10 years. They need to show more fully what 2d can bring. Honestly I think they would make more money promoting it as the "next generation of 2d" instead of messing with 3d. They need commercials and everything. This will sell. However they need to put everything into the games for at least 2-3 years so that they prove what 2d can do. spock

 

[Battle Version]

JHendrix:
Most players of these games (at a serious level) are in Korea and Japan who don't have some innate love for the hardware or a need to have something new come out that looks 16-bit, they play the games for good competition.

supergoose79:
<img src="http://www.koudelka-thegame.com/images/store_box.jpg" alt=" - " />

I must say these are both excellent points.

I wish I had more to say but I consider myself still a noob to the scene. But I am kind of twisted about my feelings about there being no more releases since I just got my first system in july... Time will tell.

 

[supergoose]

c.t.h:
Seriously,

This board has more LAME COMPLAINERS on it than I've ever seen. You seem to think SNKP's main priority is to make the .004% of you that ONLY want the neo hardware happy. You guys DONT care what's best for the company, it's all about YOU YOU YOU. You're already lucky they've made homecarts for this long, etc etc.

Somebody that really loves the company and games, would want whats best for them. They obviously think this is whats best - you can't run a good business developing games for THIRTEEN YEAR OLD HARDWARE.

They could hang you with a new rope, and you'd still complain...

so? you want their games to end in the bargain bins after just a few weeks? that's exactly what will happen ...

an again :
they aren't nintendo, sega, sony or microsoft.

 

[Average Joe]

You are all fucked in the head.

 

[supergoose]

Battle Version:

JHendrix:
Most players of these games (at a serious level) are in Korea and Japan who don't have some innate love for the hardware or a need to have something new come out that looks 16-bit, they play the games for good competition.

supergoose79:
<img src="http://www.koudelka-thegame.com/images/store_box.jpg" alt=" - " />

I must say these are both excellent points.

I wish I had more to say but I consider myself still a noob to the scene. But I am kind of twisted about my feelings about there being no more releases since I just got my first system in july... Time will tell.

funny thing :
koudelka sucked and no one even rented that stupid game ...
ok, i did, but it wasn't worth it.

 

[Battle Version]

I also would like to add the fact that I just bought a CDZ system, that died in '99 and I couldnt be more psyched about getting it. Good systems will always be good. Look at the precious dreamcast... but wait there are still games coming out for that spock

 

[Robert]

Oh men, se learn that KOF 2003 will be ported to a new harware and all you that you do is begin a little war between who against and those who are happy.
We all know that the neo is tired and old now,we love it all but you have to admit this. Staying on the MVS hardware will kill the neo, we all know that too.
Take for example, KOF 2003, what would happen if they do it on MVS? I bet 5$ that it would be considered as a bad KOF, just like KOF 2002 and 2001. with the atomiswave, we will have some chance for a fresh version of KOF.
No one want to work on the MVS anymore so we have to move to the next level. I think the fact that SvC is on PCB is a proof. We have to change, that's the meaning of the PCB version.
Perhaps you won't acept and stay with your neo. Ok I can understand it. I'm an arcade fan and SNK is my favorite developper, that's why I have a neo. Now, SNK ( or call it Playmore if you want, but you can play with the word as much as you want,it's the same for me) move to an another port. I just follow them

Arcade is my religion, SNK is my church. They want to use a different way, I will follow them.

 

[supergoose]

JHendrix: No offense but this is the truth There are very few people who will be upset by this change in SNKP and the potential amount of people who will be happy with it is large.

They'll make more money, thus make more games. Things will probably get much more popular again and the amount of available competiton will go up.

do you really believe in that crap? they can't even come up with some decent games or new ideas and you seriously think, that THIS step will save them?

More people to play = more fun for me. And $60 import PS2 games = a lot more money going to save for a deposit on a house. wink

sure.
especially since importing games for that outdated & stinking pos is illegal.

 

[Yodd]

An XBox, modchip, a decent controller and teh ROMZZz are all you need.

Fuck tha haters!

Emu is where its at.


Maybe I should change the layout and name of my site.

Instead of SuperGun Repository, I can call it Emulation Repository.

or TEH ROMZZz Repository

 

[FeelGood]

Amano Jacu:

xtoo_short20x:
You are so sure about things, it is actually
funny and ridiculous.

At least he tries to reason what he says, a thing you don't find necessary at all, as you always act like the Supreme Holder of the Truth that doesn't need to explain himself.

At Supergoose: Yeah, EW was trying some kind of alegory between Zombies and letting die or not a company before it goes to the decadence. Pretty smart. At least I got some words, JHendrix only got a pic, now you explain me the deep meaning (as I can only see the obvious one) inside it. Still, he only quoted half of my post. And I was not talking only about this thread, he tends to do that a lot of times. And so does many other people here.

Why do I need to reply to the whole post if I'm not interested in your whole post? Just because you write a lot, doesn't make it all worthwhile.

 

[supergoose]

Amano Jacu: At Supergoose Yeah, EW was trying some kind of alegory between Zombies and letting die or not a company before it goes to the decadence. Pretty smart. At least I got some words, JHendrix only got a pic, now you explain me the deep meaning (as I can only see the obvious one) inside it. Still, he only quoted half of my post. And I was not talking only about this thread, he tends to do that a lot of times. And so does many other people here.

you don't expect an answer, do you?

 

[FeelGood]

JHendrix:

Amix:

EvilWasabi:

Amano Jacu:

EvilWasabi:
Oh please. Do not give credit to Playmore. This is the equivalent of saying thanks to Aruze, who only bought SNK to run it into the ground. Playmore only bought SNK's IP to milk it. They never cared about the Neo Geo.

I guess you would have prefered SNK dying and staying death in 2000, so no new games after that time. The Neo would have lived 10 years and not 13. And if they continue to make games with the same "spirit" (well, we can discuss if later games had it, though) in another hardware, for me its life will continue to be expanded.

The people of Raccoon city - sure they were nice beautiful people before being killed by umbrella. Now they are flesh eating zombies. You wish they weren't killed and infected with the t-virus, but now what can you do, but hope that they can be killed again before they cause any more harm.

[/IMG]

What an interesting analogy.

That mostly members of this site (aka a very small portion of the KOF/SNK fanbase) care much about.

Most players of these games (at a serious level) are in Korea and Japan who don't have some innate love for the hardware or a need to have something new come out that looks 16-bit, they play the games for good competition.

Now there won't be any more ROMZ, but there will be 100% perfect ports released IN A TIMELY FASHION, at NORMAL PRICES, on SENSIBLE SYSTEMS PEOPLE ACTUALLY OWN. People will be there to buy them and support SNKP.

Like the way they support capcom for arcade releases?

I doubt it.

Oh and Amano Jacu, your whining will get you nowhere. The more I read your posts directed at me and not the discussion, the more I see you as a little idiot about to get deleted. My finger could slip at any moment. I promise to email an apology shortly thereafter.

 

[JHendrix]

supergoose79:
do you really believe in that crap? they can't even come up with some decent games or new ideas and you seriously think, that THIS step will save them?

Yes, I think that completely. Hell I was at Otakon they had SvC running on the big screen and it almost always had a big crowed around it. Guess what question I got asked the most?

Is this coming out on PS2?

They can make good games, and if they start making games with decent graphics they'll attract more people to play. Go to more gameplay oriented Neo sites, people LOVE KOF2k2. Bellzebubble said that 2k2 had a good following till most arcades ditched it for SvC.

They won't loose any of those fans by switching to new hardware. Hell if it's on new hardware they might have a timely port and if the port comes out while the game is still hot, it might atctually sell better.

And just cause they branched out and made a very shitty RPG, doesn't meant they can't focus on making good fighting games that won't look so shitty that most people won't want to play them.

sure.
especially since importing games for that outdated & stinking pos is illegal.

1.) For an outdated and stinking POS, it sure has the most amount of fans and the largest amount of good games for it.

2.) If importing games was illegal (which it's not) then they'd have closed down sites like <a href="http://www.ncsx.com" target="_blank">www.ncsx.com</a> and others a LONG time ago. It's NOT illegal to import a game to play on an imported system.

 

[Robert]

This topic become crazy: when I read the arguments of those against the atomiswave version, I laugh. In two or three years I will post them again just for fun.
Instead of saying that you're not happy to see your little neo abandonned ( and I can understand that) don't try to show that it's not a good thing for serious reasons.

When I see that supergoose79, A guy who can make wonderful consolized MVS slot, say that PS2 import game are illegal, I'm sad for him. I can understand that you're unhappy my friend for the neo but stop these kind of arguments because you know, just like me, that's total bullshit.

 

[Amano Jacu]

Oh no, the Gods of the board, the people who are always right, that are so good that have no need to backup their ideas, are not going to reply me! crying I feel ashamed shame , I've been judged that I don't deserve such honor. I promise I will try harder to prove myself worthy of your aproval, from now on I will blindly agree to all what you say, I won't need any proof, my faith in you will be strong enough.

Not only that, due to my failure I'm going to UNREGISTERED LAND make_fac as an eternal punishment! Oh, the horror... help

 

[JHendrix]

EvilWasabi:
Like the way they support capcom for arcade releases?

I doubt it.

Oh and Amano Jacu, your whining will get you nowhere. The more I read your posts directed at me and not the discussion, the more I see you as a little idiot about to get deleted. My finger could slip at any moment. I promise to email an apology shortly thereafter.

WHAT?

Yes, EXACTLY how they support Capcom for their arcade releases.

Home ports of MvC2 and CvS2 have sold well across 3 different systems (4 in CvS2's case).

You'd think if they didn't sell well on DC and then PS2 they'd have not ported them to XBox or GC afterwards, but nope they did!

Then there's Capcom executives talking about how they've been pleased by the sales. Then there's GGX and GGX2 selling well on PS2 and how Beelzebubble (sorry if I spelled it wrong) is talking about how the game which is out on PS2 is still getting lots of play in Japanese arcades. And if he's wrong why don't you post the Arcadia numbers you were talking about? Probably because he mentioned them in his post, VF4:Evo is on top with GGX2 not far behind.

So yeah, with any luck it'll be JUST like that.

 

[FeelGood]

JHendrix:

supergoose79:
do you really believe in that crap? they can't even come up with some decent games or new ideas and you seriously think, that THIS step will save them?

Yes, I think that completely. Hell I was at Otakon they had SvC running on the big screen and it almost always had a big crowed around it. Guess what question I got asked the most?

Is this coming out on PS2?

I heard that too, a lot.

You know what else I heard in the line at Otakon: "I can't wait to download the roms." That fat short guy with long brown hair said it, and I was completely floored. He was a skillful, but when talking about SNK he had ZERO interest in the neo geo. Just another cheap game to download.

I guess the same goes for a lot of people there. They don't really care about SvC. They just want to know if they can buy it, or get it burned. You know they way people are. Never want to work for anything, yet want everything that people who work for shit have.

 

[FeelGood]

JHendrix:
WHAT?

Yes, EXACTLY how they support Capcom for their arcade releases.

Home ports of MvC2 and CvS2 have sold well across 3 different systems (4 in CvS2's case).

Consider that Capcom is "pulling out of the arcade scene." Why?

MvC2 sold well? Maybe because of a small production run. Also consider it's not as recent as CvS2. CvS2 was probably the last big arcade game. It came out when?

Things are slowing down to a halt. Not just for the MVS, but arcade gaming in general. YES, in Asia, people can still see it flourishing. Here, it doesn't matter. If you're not in Dave and Busters, obviously, your'e not American popular.

Somehow it all comes back to Capcom, and we lose Capcom Fighting All Stars. People aren't supporting to the levels Capcom needs. They figure that trend will continue. They pull the plug on an anticipated game. Simple.

 

[rarehero]

actually i welcome having the games to a format
that they cant bootleg the games.
thats one good thing.
too bad they didnt show any pics of the game
on the atomiswave.
i m sure alot of the conversation would
be aimed a bit different whether or not they
are successful in making a good looking game.
but what mr goose said,
they havent had any good ideas its seems for the
duration.
would better graphics have changed 01 and 02 for me?
probly not.

 

[FeelGood]

Amano Jacu:
Oh no, the Gods of the board, the people who are always right, that are so good that have no need to backup their ideas, are not going to reply me! crying I feel ashamed shame , I've been judged that I don't deserve such honor. I promise I will try harder to prove myself worthy of your aproval, from now on I will blindly agree to all what you say, I won't need any proof, my faith in you will be strong enough.

Not only that, due to my failure I'm going to UNREGISTERED LAND make_fac as an eternal punishment! Oh, the horror... help

If you want to act like an ass, please post your crap in the warroom. Otherwise, sod off.

 

[supergoose]

JHendrix

supergoose79 sure.
especially since importing games for that outdated & stinking pos is illegal.

1.) For an outdated and stinking POS, it sure has the most amount of fans and the largest amount of good games for it.

yes, there are lots of stupid people with waaay too much money on their hands ...

well ... that and the fact, that dvdrw drives aren't that expensive anymore ...
ok ... most games can also be copied with a cdrw drive ...

2.) If importing games was illegal (which it's not) then they'd have closed down sites like <a href="http://www.ncsx.com" target="_blank">www.ncsx.com</a> and others a LONG time ago. It's NOT illegal to import a game to play on an imported system.

then please tell me, why german customs officers have the right to keep tons of imported nintendo and sony games.

 

[SNKJorge]

EvilWasabi:

JHendrix:

supergoose79:
do you really believe in that crap? they can't even come up with some decent games or new ideas and you seriously think, that THIS step will save them?

Yes, I think that completely. Hell I was at Otakon they had SvC running on the big screen and it almost always had a big crowed around it. Guess what question I got asked the most?

Is this coming out on PS2?

I heard that too, a lot.

You know what else I heard in the line at Otakon: "I can't wait to download the roms." That fat short guy with long brown hair said it, and I was completely floored. He was a skillful, but when talking about SNK he had ZERO interest in the neo geo. Just another cheap game to download.

I guess the same goes for a lot of people there. They don't really care about SvC. They just want to know if they can buy it, or get it burned. You know they way people are. Never want to work for anything, yet want everything that people who work for shit have.

Not only at Otakon. Just look at the forums
closely.