I think you know as well as I do. ID4 will ALWAYS win out. Theres only what 3 REAL arcades left? Shoppers, FL, Orbitz or Orbit whatever the hell.. FL is all about catering to those IDphiles(which is sad cause they use to get good games too) Orbit or Orbitz is like also catering to the IDphiles the Wanganners and the Bemani fanpeople. They dont even bother upgrading games like GG I believe they still have the same one shoppers has and hteres been what 2 versions since then. Lastly the less said about shoppers the better.