All these "who would win" nonsense!
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rain is right the move instead of answering his questions you switch the subject and call him a racist, all he did was say what is that word and nothing more. Wow you will do anything to win an argument want you? <img src="graemlins/angry.gif" border="0" alt="[Angry]" />
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the_fanboy, I have no more time for you. Apart from calling me racist, you have no experience when it comes to Capcom fighting games. I have put post upon post up, explaining streetfighter moves and such, but you don't even answer them, instead resorting to childish name calling, and Capcom bashing. Post below whatever you wish, I shall ignore it, as accusing me of being Racist is something I find hard to forgive. I have no more time for people such as yourselves man, laters.
Oh, and thanks to Poppycock, NeoCell and anyone else who saw my point of view in all this
You guys know what your talking about
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Oh, and thanks to Poppycock, NeoCell and anyone else who saw my point of view in all this
You guys know what your talking about [ June 15, 2002: Message edited by: Rain ]</p>
Hi,all!
I just want to say that the topics "Who win and who lose" are bullshit!!!!!!!!!
I have seen this kind of question nearly 1000 time in this forum,this is boring... <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" /> <img src="graemlins/blowtop.gif" border="0" alt="[Blow Top]" /> <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" />
I just want to say that the topics "Who win and who lose" are bullshit!!!!!!!!!
I have seen this kind of question nearly 1000 time in this forum,this is boring... <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" /> <img src="graemlins/blowtop.gif" border="0" alt="[Blow Top]" /> <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" />
Yashiro666
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You talk so much about Crapcom games and their pathetic gameplay based only about turtling and predictable patterns, no wonder you defend them so much. A good example of balancing from Crapcom is SF2, where Guile and Dhalsim just destroy the competition. How about you talk some about SNK gameplay, Fanboy! the_move is right that you guys just talk from a biased point of view, Crapcom gameplay does not have a roll or evade move, no running, and no different kind of jumps. What does Crapcom has? Walk, jump, and block. No normal dashing for ALL characters and some players that really stink with no hope whatsoever to win. In KOF, ALL players have a chance to win. I wish I could play you fanboys in either Street Fighter or KOF games and we'll all see who play better, SNK or Crapcom players, besides in SF2 use Guile and do the handcuffs and wait until the last five seconds, then use the magic throw and you win everytime. Take that Fanboys!
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In my point of view I wouldn't like it if all the characters were around equal where anyone could win with any person on the game. Lets take Marvel vs capcom 2( awesome fighter by capcom) What if I picked Roll,Megaman,and tron bone( some of the weakest characters..) It wouldn't seem right if i put them up against Hulk, Juggernut, and Zangief and win with only 3 hits.. Someone that small can not take anyone big down in a matter of a combo it just doesn't seem right. If you were in the arcade what it happen would you say oh at least there balanced.. No I would be like I cant stand this fucking game.
Come on people you know you love capcom.. I like kof better but at least Capcom upgrades there sprites instead of upgrading a menu.. Oh yah I forgot Neogeo is to weak to upgrade sprites.. hahaahahmuahahahahahahah.
Come on people you know you love capcom.. I like kof better but at least Capcom upgrades there sprites instead of upgrading a menu.. Oh yah I forgot Neogeo is to weak to upgrade sprites.. hahaahahmuahahahahahahah.
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This topic is FUCKED UP. I expect better from you the_move <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" />
the way i see it, the_move has two main arguments as to why SNK > capcom:
1. the techniques have more style. i. e., khushnood throws out a fireball with one hand, whereas ken throws out a fireball with two habds. ergo, if the two were ever to meet in battle, khushnood would win, becuase he has spectularity. this can be applied to everyone in SNK games: their moves look cooler, so they would win in a fight against their capcom counterpart. (i guess that why he's called the_move)
2. the higher tier characters of SNK could beat up anyone from the igher tier characters of capcom. if kyo and ryu were to fight, kyo would win, becuase his specials / supers are superior. ergo, snk is better than capcom.
does anyone here understand that tiers are RELATIVE?? ryu is top tier RELATIVE to dan! kyo is top tier RELATIVE to yuri (or whoever)! they exist in different universes, with different definitions of strength.
also, you cannot claim one company is better than the other due to gameplay. one person may like having rolls, dash and strikers in their game, whereas another player may hate it. the game that does have those things does not make it the superior game!
essentially, this 6-page banter boils down to who would fight better, when in fact it is impossible to compare the two! the_move had the right idea when s/he started this, but s/he claimed that all SNK characters are superior, no matter what. i disagree with this. i think it is impossible to compare them. for example, take terry vs. ryu.
-is ryu allowed to parry? because if he is, and terry can't, then ryu could win.
-can terry just defend?
-can ryu roll?
-can terry low jump?
-can ryu dash?
-which version of the shinku hadouken are we talking about?
-which version of the burn knuckle are we talking about.
there are so many variables, it is impossible to determine the outcome. and even if you figured out what both guys can and can't do, does that still mean that the victor is crystal clear?
by the way, i don't want any flaming so i'll cop out and say:
CAPCOM = SNK
1. the techniques have more style. i. e., khushnood throws out a fireball with one hand, whereas ken throws out a fireball with two habds. ergo, if the two were ever to meet in battle, khushnood would win, becuase he has spectularity. this can be applied to everyone in SNK games: their moves look cooler, so they would win in a fight against their capcom counterpart. (i guess that why he's called the_move)
2. the higher tier characters of SNK could beat up anyone from the igher tier characters of capcom. if kyo and ryu were to fight, kyo would win, becuase his specials / supers are superior. ergo, snk is better than capcom.
does anyone here understand that tiers are RELATIVE?? ryu is top tier RELATIVE to dan! kyo is top tier RELATIVE to yuri (or whoever)! they exist in different universes, with different definitions of strength.
also, you cannot claim one company is better than the other due to gameplay. one person may like having rolls, dash and strikers in their game, whereas another player may hate it. the game that does have those things does not make it the superior game!
essentially, this 6-page banter boils down to who would fight better, when in fact it is impossible to compare the two! the_move had the right idea when s/he started this, but s/he claimed that all SNK characters are superior, no matter what. i disagree with this. i think it is impossible to compare them. for example, take terry vs. ryu.
-is ryu allowed to parry? because if he is, and terry can't, then ryu could win.
-can terry just defend?
-can ryu roll?
-can terry low jump?
-can ryu dash?
-which version of the shinku hadouken are we talking about?
-which version of the burn knuckle are we talking about.
there are so many variables, it is impossible to determine the outcome. and even if you figured out what both guys can and can't do, does that still mean that the victor is crystal clear?
by the way, i don't want any flaming so i'll cop out and say:
CAPCOM = SNK
"Not quite!
It´s not about firing a fireball with one or two hands, but throwing such a weak, small fireball with two hands."
does the size of the fireball really matter to you that much? even if i admit that khushnood / marco has a better fireball, that does not mean he's win the battle, and it still doesn't prove that SNK is better than capcom. if these two were to meet, fireballs would be pointless anyway becuase ken can parry and khushnodd could JD
"And look at the fire effects, explosion etc. They´re far better in SNK fighters.
And Marco Rodriquez would not win, coz he throws his fireball with one hand, but he has more moves, and more powerful ones."
the numebr of moves a characters has has little effect on who is better. lets look at CvSNK2. guile versus maki. guile has two moves, 3 supers.
maki has the lunging punch, the backwards and forwards run (each with 3 follow-ups), an air throw, two move you can do when you're near a wall, and her spinning move, as well as 3 supers. she has more specials, but just about everyone would agree that guile is a higher tier than maki. so basically, more moves does not equal victory.
and does it really matter what the visuals look like?? i mean, capcom could come out with a game with visuals that blow MotW away, and your point would be invalid.
"And Marco Rodriquez would not win"
if you say so
It´s not about firing a fireball with one or two hands, but throwing such a weak, small fireball with two hands."
does the size of the fireball really matter to you that much? even if i admit that khushnood / marco has a better fireball, that does not mean he's win the battle, and it still doesn't prove that SNK is better than capcom. if these two were to meet, fireballs would be pointless anyway becuase ken can parry and khushnodd could JD
"And look at the fire effects, explosion etc. They´re far better in SNK fighters.
And Marco Rodriquez would not win, coz he throws his fireball with one hand, but he has more moves, and more powerful ones."
the numebr of moves a characters has has little effect on who is better. lets look at CvSNK2. guile versus maki. guile has two moves, 3 supers.
maki has the lunging punch, the backwards and forwards run (each with 3 follow-ups), an air throw, two move you can do when you're near a wall, and her spinning move, as well as 3 supers. she has more specials, but just about everyone would agree that guile is a higher tier than maki. so basically, more moves does not equal victory.
and does it really matter what the visuals look like?? i mean, capcom could come out with a game with visuals that blow MotW away, and your point would be invalid.
"And Marco Rodriquez would not win"
if you say so
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I'd just like to say that this is the most ridiculous, childish, anal thread I have ever had the stupidity to read. It couldn't be more pointless if you were arguing about who would be the winner of Luke Skywalker vs Captain Kirk. Or more anal if you were arguing over Superman vs Batman. They are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, in completely seperate games with completely different engines. You can have an intelligent debate about whether A is better than B in a specific game, but to have a mass arguement about whether SNK's fighters are stronger and better than Capcom's or not is completely RETARDED. THERE IS NO ANSWER. IT IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL OPINION.
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