Bayonetta Demo up on Japanese PSN

Average Joe · Oct 9, 2009

Is making a JPN PSN account easy?

I'm not really a big demo guy despite my feelings of eagerness to play this game so I can just as easily wait for the real version but if it only takes a few minutes to figure out how to make an account I'll do it (yes I'm feeling that lazy at the moment.)

fake · Oct 9, 2009

K9999 said:
Is making a JPN PSN account easy?

I'm not really a big demo guy despite my feelings of eagerness to play this game so I can just as easily wait for the real version but if it only takes a few minutes to figure out how to make an account I'll do it (yes I'm feeling that lazy at the moment.)

It takes about ten minutes. Just search for a how-to on YouTube. It's just filling out a form.

HeartlessNinny · Oct 10, 2009

fakeXsound said:
It takes about ten minutes. Just search for a how-to on YouTube. It's just filling out a form.

Yeah, this is true. I'm pretty hopeless when it comes to this stuff, but I set up a Japanese account with ease. The only difficulty lies in navigating the menu in the actual store, since I don't understand the language.

Deuce · Oct 10, 2009

HeartlessNinny said:
Now, that said, I'm just coming off playing The Force Unleashed, so pretty much anything will look good compared to that pile of shit. I'm an idiot for suffering through that entire game...

I dunno, I thought TFU was okay. Not great, but a decent play. Now, if IT had controlled like Ninja Gaiden or DMC...

genjiglove · Oct 10, 2009

fakeXsound said:
I haven't gone on PSN for a long time because I heard the new firmware bricks white Dual Shocks. Is this still true? If not, I'm downloading this asap.

It bricks white Duel Shocks specifically? What is up with that?

fake · Oct 10, 2009

genjiglove said:
It bricks white Duel Shocks specifically? What is up with that?

Sony is probably mad at me for spending $70 on a Japanese controller.

HeartlessNinny · Oct 10, 2009

Deuce said:
I dunno, I thought TFU was okay. Not great, but a decent play. Now, if IT had controlled like Ninja Gaiden or DMC...

Okay is being generous if you ask me. The gameplay mechanics and the general design of that game are sub-par at best. Worst of all, every single boss fight in the game is absolutely terrible. Battles that should be legendary and epic are tedious, frustrating, and dull. And though I was playing on a hard difficulty setting, I suffered cheap deaths that weren't really my fault constantly. It just led to a frustrating experience. Oddly enough though, I couldn't stop playing it. It was like a bizarre compulsion to not let the game get the better of me. I still kind of want to beat it on Sith Lord, just to conquer it and make it my bitch (and I'll complain the entire time I'm sure).

Deuce · Oct 10, 2009

HeartlessNinny said:
Battles that should be legendary and epic are tedious, frustrating, and dull.

The only boss fight that I really hated was Shaak Ti. Those stupid crushing tentacles resulted in a lot of cheap deaths.

It would be nice if LucasArts would license out the Star Wars universe to other, better developers (like they did with KOTOR) instead of trying to do it all in-house.

HeartlessNinny · Oct 10, 2009

Deuce said:
The only boss fight that I really hated was Shaak Ti. Those stupid crushing tentacles resulted in a lot of cheap deaths.

It would be nice if LucasArts would license out the Star Wars universe to other, better developers (like they did with KOTOR) instead of trying to do it all in-house.

Well, we're at loggerheads there. I thought the boss battles were unequivocally awful. Fighting Darth Vader is a chore, for example... And fighting Darth Vader should never, ever be a chore. And don't even get me started on that little shit on the junk planet. :mad:

fake · Oct 12, 2009

Bayonetta is frickin awesome other than the graphics and slow framerate, which don't seem to be a problem on the 360 version. Has anyone made a Japanese XBLA account?

The firmware update didn't brick my JPN Triple Shock, by the way.

ViewtifulZFO · Oct 13, 2009

I've played through the demo about 3 or 4 times today.

It's the new DMC. I never liked DMC4; it was really a huge disappointment coming from DMC3, so I'm glad to see Bayonetta is turning out well. I wasn't really interested in it until now.

That is a huge combo list too...the timing on some of them are a bit odd, and take some getting used to, but I believe they make the combat more fluid then the more rigid DMC controls. that "P - P" combo thing or anything of the sort takes some effort, but some of them are really spectacular (like the one where she straddles enemies, and pistol whips them to oblivion - it's pretty hilarious). I haven't used the sword much, on that note.

Anyone find out how to do Torture Attacks consistently? It's the one where she brings out 1. A Guillotine or 2. a iron maiden and basically kills the enemy in one shot (they get stored in the meter underneath). I'm not sure how to activate them, probably a stun of some kind.

Another thing I like: evading is easy. After a while, knowing when to press it is second nature, and you get a bonus from it too. I like being able to evade out of combos, especially - that's my big complaint with the NG series (not that I don't like NG2S, which I probably will buy as well)

I played the PS3 version - I think the problem with the framerate is because it's not set to 30fps for cutscenes like the 360 version. No 60fps during combat, though, which has me worried. It's still just a demo though, so it may be fixed by now (considering its JP release date is so soon).

It's totally crazy, and I'm looking forward to messing around with the combo system some more tomorrow.

I can't get the battle theme out of my head.

Deuce · Oct 13, 2009

For those who like the music...

http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=70408

Poison Sama · Oct 13, 2009

In case anyone didn't know by now, the 360 demo and is also avaliable on the JP XBL Marketplace (went up on the same day as the PS3 demo). The 360 demo looks better, runs at a higher framerate, has more content, and has a much smaller filesize than the PS3 demo.

stormS · Oct 13, 2009

I think I'll pass on this one.

Deuce · Oct 13, 2009

Definitely a bargain bin purchase for me.

fake · Oct 13, 2009

zombiesara said:
In case anyone didn't know by now, the 360 demo and is also avaliable on the JP XBL Marketplace (went up on the same day as the PS3 demo). The 360 demo looks better, runs at a higher framerate, has more content, and has a much smaller filesize than the PS3 demo.

OMFG you are teh biased against PS3!!1! :glee:

Is making a Japanese 360 account as easy as the PS3 one?

Poison Sama · Oct 13, 2009

fakeXsound said:
OMFG you are teh biased against PS3!!1!

Is making a Japanese 360 account as easy as the PS3 one?

Yeah, making one is pretty easy. Just set "Japan" as your locale when registering a new account (the Terms of Service should show up in Japanese if done correctly), and then just go through the rest of the registration process and you should be good to go.

HeartlessNinny · Oct 13, 2009

ViewtifulZFO said:
I've played through the demo about 3 or 4 times today.

It's the new DMC. I never liked DMC4; it was really a huge disappointment coming from DMC3, so I'm glad to see Bayonetta is turning out well. I wasn't really interested in it until now.

That is a huge combo list too...the timing on some of them are a bit odd, and take some getting used to, but I believe they make the combat more fluid then the more rigid DMC controls. that "P - P" combo thing or anything of the sort takes some effort, but some of them are really spectacular (like the one where she straddles enemies, and pistol whips them to oblivion - it's pretty hilarious). I haven't used the sword much, on that note.

Anyone find out how to do Torture Attacks consistently? It's the one where she brings out 1. A Guillotine or 2. a iron maiden and basically kills the enemy in one shot (they get stored in the meter underneath). I'm not sure how to activate them, probably a stun of some kind.

Another thing I like: evading is easy. After a while, knowing when to press it is second nature, and you get a bonus from it too. I like being able to evade out of combos, especially - that's my big complaint with the NG series (not that I don't like NG2S, which I probably will buy as well)

I played the PS3 version - I think the problem with the framerate is because it's not set to 30fps for cutscenes like the 360 version. No 60fps during combat, though, which has me worried. It's still just a demo though, so it may be fixed by now (considering its JP release date is so soon).

It's totally crazy, and I'm looking forward to messing around with the combo system some more tomorrow.

I can't get the battle theme out of my head.

I'm totally with you here, man, particularly on the DMC4 front. I fucking hated that game, which annoyed me since I absolutely loved DMC3.

And I liked the evades, combos and tortures too. Definitely looking forward to this release.

ViewtifulZFO · Oct 13, 2009

HeartlessNinny said:
I'm totally with you here, man, particularly on the DMC4 front. I fucking hated that game, which annoyed me since I absolutely loved DMC3.

And I liked the evades, combos and tortures too. Definitely looking forward to this release.

It's nice to be excited about a game, for once...I haven't been in quite a while.

And for those obsessives out there...

http://forums.platinumgames.com/showthread.php?p=13363#post13363

People are dissecting the combo engine already.

Deuce · Oct 13, 2009

HeartlessNinny said:
I'm totally with you here, man, particularly on the DMC4 front. I fucking hated that game, which annoyed me since I absolutely loved DMC3.

I don't get that, honestly. Aside from the laziness that was on display as far as level design for Dante goes, what was so bad? The control was tight (tighter than Bayonetta's, I might add), the graphics nice were detailed, the story was decent and the combat engine was deep.

HeartlessNinny · Oct 13, 2009

Deuce said:
I don't get that, honestly. Aside from the laziness that was on display as far as level design for Dante goes, what was so bad? The control was tight (tighter than Bayonetta's, I might add), the graphics nice were detailed, the story was decent and the combat engine was deep.

Grrr..... Don't even get me started on that one. Words cannot convey my utter loathing of that game. It was a goddamned slap in the face as far as I'm concerned. Here, rather than have me get into it again, I'll just point you here:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178800

The first page is where I vent. Here's a highlight:

And after trying the spinning blades room again (and failing to get to the top despite repeated attempts), I've decided to ditch this game forever. I truly despise it, and I can't for the life of me understand how anyone could possibly enjoy this pile of shit. Every single current gen 3D beat-em'-up is superior to it. Ninja Gaiden Sigma makes this game look like it was designed by blind, deaf and dumb toddlers with Down's Syndrome. I would prefer getting a Tabasco enema to playing this game for one more second.

While my fury has cooled some, I still fucking hate that game. Like I said, it's an affront to all that's good and true. It's tedious, boring, repetitive, badly designed, lazy, cheap, and just generally worthless.

I almost never abandon games half-way through out of frustration, because I have a ridiculous and stupid compulsion to finish them, especially nowadays with achievements and whatnot. But that one made me so goddamned angry that I did just that, and I don't regret it for a second. In fact, I'm delighted I was able to ignore my usual habits and kick its useless ass to the curb. I wouldn't play that game again for anything — I'd probably die immediately of an aneurysm if I did.

fake · Oct 13, 2009

I loved Devil May Cry 4. The devil arm was awesome. I don't like it as much as 1 or 3, but I still think it's a great game.

Deuce · Oct 13, 2009

HeartlessNinny said:
While my fury has cooled some, I still fucking hate that game. Like I said, it's an affront to all that's good and true. It's tedious, boring, repetitive, badly designed, lazy, cheap, and just generally worthless.

I still don't get it. I never had that much trouble.

Taiso · Oct 13, 2009

I loved DMC 4. Thought it was a great, fun, challenging game with tons of play variety between Dante and Nero. Nero is a bit more one dimensional since he only has one style, but he can still mix up his attacks quite nicely and it's all cool looking and fun to pull off.

I got to really spend time with it and learn its nuances when I was recovering from my first surgery in January 2008. I played that game almost exclusively for four months. It utterly consumed me.

Being able to switch between all four of Dante's fighting styles gave the character more variety than he'd ever had before. Some of the attacks of the characters were insane and stringing together the combos for the stylish finish was an absolute blast.

As for the various platforming challenges, I didn't find them that hard to get through once I started actually paying attention to what was going on and used some skill and timing to navigate them. Even the rotating blades room was easy to get through once I got my bearings, and I was recovering from eye surgery when diving hardcore into that game. It wasn't that hard and it wasn't that ridiculously designed, IMO.

The only criticism I can levy against DMC 4 is that Dante doesn't get any new levels to go through except for his fight against the giant god statue. Going back through the game playing as Dante, while fun, was a reverse retread of the game I'd just played through. However, since I thoroughly enjoyed facing a lot of those same challenges with Dante's expanded moveset, it allowed me to approach the challenges from a different angle.

It was one of my favorite games of 2K8.

hanafuda · Oct 13, 2009

'Going back through the game playing as Dante, while fun, was a reverse retread of the game I'd just played through.'.

Yep, with a couple of new, afterthought enemies and a new power up of some kind every few minutes to try and distract the player from realising, 'Fuck! This is only half a game.'.

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