Nintendo NX: What you all thinking so far? Possible fail, or Nintendo's game changer?

tacoguy · Dec 8, 2016

Small update.
Nintendo Switch debuts on the Jimmy Fallon show.
They show off the console in person, show the system docked and in handheld mode.

Skip to 5:00 minutes if you just want to watch the Switch.

Looks like they are still aiming for that weird March release date even though it looks like it's ready now.
From the very little that they showed of Zelda it is already running better than on the Wii U, with no noticeable slowdown and less pop up.
They also showed them un-docking the system while they were playing Zelda and the Switch handled the transition to portable mode without any hitch.

BlackaneseNiNjA · Dec 8, 2016

Tanooki said:
I don't know where this no one likes me stuff is coming from as I don't go about trying to make enemies here, but as far as a meltdown goes, if it happened it would be a first for a message board. I'd put it on LWK as the crazy is mounting with those responses to poppy among others.

Don't take this shit seriously man. It's a Dr Shroom post: Aside from neo talk it's what keeps this place entertaining.

Back on topic: You made a lot of valid points about nintendo's crappy network choices. Hopefully they get this one right. Time will tell.

FilthyRear · Dec 8, 2016

Tanooki said:
as far as a meltdown goes, if it happened it would be a first for a message board.

This is how the meltdown starts btw

fake · Dec 8, 2016

BlackaneseNiNjA said:
Don't take this shit seriously man. It's a Dr Shroom post: Aside from neo talk it's what keeps this place entertaining.

Back on topic: You made a lot of valid points about nintendo's crappy network choices. Hopefully they get this one right. Time will tell.

Says the noob.

DevilRedeemed · Dec 8, 2016

tacoguy said:
Small update.
Nintendo Switch debuts on the Jimmy Fallon show.
They show off the console in person, show the system docked and in handheld mode.

Skip to 5:00 minutes if you just want to watch the Switch.

Looks like they are still aiming for that weird March release date even though it looks like it's ready now.
From the very little that they showed of Zelda it is already running better than on the Wii U, with no noticeable slowdown and less pop up.
They also showed them un-docking the system while they were playing Zelda and the Switch handled the transition to portable mode without any hitch.

Thanks for sharing. I'm not too excited. I do like the fact the switch looks like a 90s gaming device in terms of shape and design. As long as the games are good though, I'll be there

BlackaneseNiNjA · Dec 8, 2016

fakeXsound said:
Says the noob.

Of course. If noobs don't help each other out, who will? lol

neo_mao · Dec 8, 2016

oh my god they are organizing a cartel

DevilRedeemed · Dec 8, 2016

fakeXsound said:
Says the noob.

Best noob in years tho (blackanese not tanooki)

Lagduf · Dec 8, 2016

tacoguy said:
Small update.
Nintendo Switch debuts on the Jimmy Fallon show.
They show off the console in person, show the system docked and in handheld mode.

Skip to 5:00 minutes if you just want to watch the Switch.

Looks like they are still aiming for that weird March release date even though it looks like it's ready now.
From the very little that they showed of Zelda it is already running better than on the Wii U, with no noticeable slowdown and less pop up.
They also showed them un-docking the system while they were playing Zelda and the Switch handled the transition to portable mode without any hitch.

Fallon was terribly annoying in that.

I think the Switch still looks pretty cool.

Setherial · Dec 9, 2016

If I have money, I will get the new Zelda game for the Switch.

sylvie · Dec 9, 2016

Lagduf said:
Fallon was terribly annoying in that.

I think the Switch still looks pretty cool.

Fallon has always annoyed the piss out of me. Something about him makes me feel like 8th graders wearing fedoras and laughing hysterically while sober to Family Guy are his greatest fans. And dudes who are single and think that being a giant boner in a suit is awesome

TonK · Dec 9, 2016

Sylvie said:
Fallon has always annoyed the piss out of me. Something about him makes me feel like 8th graders wearing fedoras and laughing hysterically while sober to Family Guy are his greatest fans. And dudes who are single and think that being a giant boner in a suit is awesome

He's a yes man and not remotely funny.

I agree with you.

Marek · Dec 10, 2016

Fallon is the worst, the absolute worst.

sylvie · Dec 10, 2016

i remember the only time in the past 5+ years that i voluntarily tuned in to Fallon was when Trump made his guest appearance, and I wanted to watch it, so I did. There was like a music guest and all that and i remember like while the dude was still performing, Fallon cockwalked on stage and like grabbed the mic out of the dudes hand and started singing the lyrics to the song and from what I could infer it was probably a black thing and idk i felt some serious secondhand embarassment for the actual frontman of the band, who had kind of retreated

LoneSage · Dec 10, 2016

tracy morgan told fallon not to do his laughing shit if they were in the same skit on SNL. fallon never broke character with tracy after that.
can't believe this guy hosts The Tonight Show. he got so lucky things didn't work out for Conan.

sylvie · Dec 10, 2016

i hate tracy morgan too

GohanX · Dec 10, 2016

Tracy Morgan hates you too.

GregN · Dec 10, 2016

I'm a big Nintendo whore so I'll get it if I have the jing.

fake · Dec 19, 2016

The new rumor is that the Switch's GPU will take a 40% (or 60% depending on how you math) hit when undocked. This is not because the dock has extra processing power in it, but because the Switch's heat generation goes out of control at 100% and battery life depletes quickly. So the unit automatically underclocks in order to keep it cool and hit the battery life target. :keke:

The sub-rumor is that devs need to create two versions of each game, one for the docked and one for undocked. I don't buy this, though.

DevilRedeemed · Dec 19, 2016

yeah I was reading about this. it makes for a potentially messy situation. personally was never too convinced about the portable/docking thing - it's kind of a boring idea. something like this could break what was a chief idea behind the console.
if it is the case I'm sure that a year or two down the road, Nintendo will bring out a revised version, one which will have addressed these issues. but maybe by then no one will really care anymore.

fake · Dec 19, 2016

DevilRedeemed said:
yeah I was reading about this. it makes for a potentially messy situation. personally was never too convinced about the portable/docking thing - it's kind of a boring idea. something like this could break what was a chief idea behind the console.
if it is the case I'm sure that a year or two down the road, Nintendo will bring out a revised version, one which will have addressed these issues. but maybe by then no one will really care anymore.

Yeah, they can't wait a year or two if they want third party support. This thing has to sell hundred of thousands of units out the gate to convince devs to A) make new games or B) downgrade their existing games and cross their fingers that the games sell.

tacoguy · Dec 20, 2016

The Digital Foundry guys confirm the specs of the Switch

I was hoping they would have gone with Pascal and not Maxwell but looks like the timing might have been off a bit.
I'm not too disappointed since I've looked at this more as a handheld than as a console, and as a handheld, this is pretty powerful.

NeoSneth · Dec 20, 2016

The Tegra X1 isn't that much of a surprise, but it will be limiting. At least the SDK will be much further along than most launch consoles.

The 40% hit when undocked was a bit of a surprise. I'm sure it's for battery life, but most devs are just going to use this as max spec for simplicity. Who is going to waste time testing Full GPU and 60% GPU?

Nintendo has done hardware upgrades for the DS and 3DS, so I wouldn't be surprised if a Pascal Tegra happens in a year or two.

Tanooki · Dec 20, 2016

fakeXsound said:
The new rumor is that the Switch's GPU will take a 40% (or 60% depending on how you math) hit when undocked. This is not because the dock has extra processing power in it, but because the Switch's heat generation goes out of control at 100% and battery life depletes quickly. So the unit automatically underclocks in order to keep it cool and hit the battery life target.

The sub-rumor is that devs need to create two versions of each game, one for the docked and one for undocked. I don't buy this, though.

That hit, it's just on the a/v end of things. The core mechanics, AI and other operations don't take the hit. I saw all the stupid use of the world 'assume' Digital Foundry repeatedly did since htey just know some core specs and none of the added tweaks or customizations in code/parts involved yet. There won't be a need to make 2 games. But, in turn it will need to be made in a way like Android (or even PC) games are done. You have the high spec device, and the low spec device. They both run the game the same speed, same core mechanics, AI and the rest, but the beefier device (ie Switch docked) will look and sound remarkably better while the handheld presentation will be degraded without gameplay quality loss. Sort of like getting a good PC game on 2 machines, one is a gamer box, the other uses Intel HD 4600 -- both can run 60fps, but one will run ULTRA settings, the other will use a mix of Low/Medium.

fake · Dec 20, 2016

Well I supposed it's subjective as to whether it runs "better" when docked or "worse" when portable, but as Nintendo has almost exclusively marketed the Switch as a portable, I'm going with "worse". When the main selling point comes with a 40-60% caveat, that's a big issue.

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