Why was there a women's march?

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LOL, every month for a week?! I have to shave my face every day. I don't deserve to get subsidized by the government because of it.

Your analogy was weak...both are male/female daily hygiene products, and you know it.

If this was really an issue, these protesters should consider moving to another state that doesn't have state sales tax. Or, better yet, proposing some reforms in the state they live in...not going to DC.

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Usually I like wasabi but unless tampons are taxed at an outrageous amount then I am really unsure what he's trying to get at. Everything you buy is taxed.

Meanwhile, what The Fish wrote is a more reasonable explanation.
 

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Usually I like wasabi but unless tampons are taxed at an outrageous amount then I am really unsure what he's trying to get at. Everything you buy is taxed.

Meanwhile, what The Fish wrote is a more reasonable explanation.

Sage it's not just about pads and tampons, but that the people who determine that these things should be taxed are the same ones who will say a woman can't get an abortion until she gets a sonogram. It's a culture of "I don't want to hear their complaints" and "athletes shouldn't sit in protest to police brutality" and "celebrities should sit down and shut up when they aren't showing their tits on the screen." Soon it will be brought to you by Carl's Jr "fuck you im eating"

You also might be interested to know that not everything is taxed in America. Ask your mom to send you some pictures of receipts.
 

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Sage it's not just about pads and tampons, but that the people who determine that these things should be taxed are the same ones who will say a woman can't get an abortion until she gets a sonogram. It's a culture of "I don't want to hear their complaints" and "athletes shouldn't sit in protest to police brutality" and "celebrities should sit down and shut up when they aren't showing their tits on the screen."

There can be a counter to everything you stated...and this is many people's opinion.

Many people feel that the government shouldn't fund abortions. Many of us who will say that will not say that we want abortions banned, we just don't feel the taxpayers should pay for it.

Many people feel we are over taxed for all kinds of things, not just feminine hygiene products.

Many people have no problem with professional athletes choosing to speak out or protest something...just not while being paid by a company to do their job.

Many people do not want to hear the ever repetitive opinions of actors who are abusing their celebrity. It gets crammed down our throats by simply trying to watch the news, read the news, watch a TV show, listen to a song, or watch a movie. It gets old quick.

For every strong left, there is a strong right...but there are tons of people smack dab in the middle.
 

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I'm enjoying this thread... besides the obvious facts and stuffs...

It's a cool way to view how the forum interacts with each other...

xROTx

PS. I have never brought a Tampon in my life... However, I have been accused of using them by Wasabi...
 

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Wow. It must be so embarrassing when, for a week, every month, your face cramps up and starts bleeding out hair profusely.

See I agree with you on this charlie. I feel that there shouldn't be a tax on Tampons and the like kind of stuff. Women have 0 control over their periods. I do however think that abortions in most cases should have to be paid for seeing as it's a woman's choice to decide if she wants to sleep with someone.


Just my 2 cents.~
 

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I'm enjoying this thread... besides the obvious facts and stuffs...

It's a cool way to view how the forum interacts with each other...

xROTx

PS. I have never brought a Tampon in my life... However, I have been accused of using them by Wasabi...

I've bought more tampons than I can count...and yeah, they're not cheap (but cheaper than diapers...my God, are diapers expensive). Doing all the groceries shopping for years, tampons were a regular pickup.
 

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There can be a counter to everything you stated...and this is many people's opinion.

Many people feel that the government shouldn't fund abortions. Many of us who will say that will not say that we want abortions banned, we just don't feel the taxpayers should pay for it.

Many people feel we are over taxed for all kinds of things, not just feminine hygiene products.

Many people have no problem with professional athletes choosing to speak out or protest something...just not while being paid by a company to do their job.

Many people do not want to hear the ever repetitive opinions of actors who are abusing their celebrity. It gets crammed down our throats by simply trying to watch the news, read the news, watch a TV show, listen to a song, or watch a movie. It gets old quick.

For every strong left, there is a strong right...but there are tons of people smack dab in the middle.


You look at the situation as people looking to take your money. How about you consider this:

What if the government said "John, you're not allowed to get anal reconstructive surgery. Your ass problems are god's plan."
 

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See I agree with you on this charlie. I feel that there shouldn't be a tax on Tampons and the like kind of stuff. Women have 0 control over their periods. I do however think that abortions in most cases should have to be paid for seeing as it's a woman's choice to decide if she wants to sleep with someone.


Just my 2 cents.~

Sure, let them pay for it themselves.

Should women have to face increased costs and penalties for getting an abortion?

Should they have to pay for a sonogram or ultrasound before getting an abortion, that they are already paying for with their own money?

The republican mentality of dictating what a woman does with her body is alien to me. It is a form of oppression.
 

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So one time I was really bored and to decide to stick a tampon in my ass just to see what it was like.
 

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This is new to me. I thought everything you buy in stores is taxed at the state and national level. So I feel surprised that there's a movement to un-tax tampons.

Here's an article about tampons taxed around the world: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-32883153

I don't feel strongly enough about a product being taxed at like a dollar or whatever to argue about this. I don't feel strongly enough about anything to argue about. Cool thread though.

Should women have to face increased costs and penalties for getting an abortion?

Not that I have any personal experience in it thank mao, but there are lots of countries where paying for an abortion out of pocket is cheap. America isn't one of them because everything's expensive as fuck there apparently (200+ bucks for insurance per month? Jesus christ).
 
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Sure, let them pay for it themselves.

Should women have to face increased costs and penalties for getting an abortion?

Should they have to pay for a sonogram or ultrasound before getting an abortion, that they are already paying for with their own money?

The republican mentality of dictating what a woman does with her body is alien to me. It is a form of oppression.

That's not what I'm referring to charlie. I'm simply saying that if you decide to let some random dude bust a nut in your vagina because you wanted to have a "girl's night out." then you should pay for your choices. Truth be told I feel both the man and woman should pay for the abortion if they want it since it takes two to tango.
 

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You look at the situation as people looking to take your money. How about you consider this:

What if the government said "John, you're not allowed to get anal reconstructive surgery. Your ass problems are god's plan."

No, I really don't. I just don't feel there are certain things that the taxpayers should pay for...and the list is VERY long. Abortions just happens to be one of them.

And I get what you are saying...like I said earlier, there is a far right group of morons that want everything they don't agree with banned...but it's amazing how much they have in common with the far left...who want everything banned that they do not agree with.

See...what is crazy to me is that so many of these people are experiencing the same thing they try to do to others. They want something banned, find out that probably isn't going to happen, then encourage the government to step in and regulate that thing with "common sense" tactics. They'll then complain when the other side does the same them to them. In this case, the bible thumping far right have figured out that they cannot ban abortions...so they're just going to screw with people through "common sense" regulations. Sounds just like the garbage the far liberal left is pulling, doesn't it?

Personally, I've long said I was pro choice...and I stand by that statement. On the other hand, save the amount of rape created pregnancies (according to most studies, 3-5% of the total rapes that happen each year, which could be handled on case by case basis), all other pregnancies are pretty avoidable. Demanding that the taxpayers should pay for such a thing is absurd. I don't view this as someone "taking my money", I view this as taking money from a different project that the government should be paying for.


The republican mentality of dictating what a woman does with her body is alien to me. It is a form of oppression.

It is amazing how many ways I could spin this. Again, so many of these people being oppressed will willingly turn around and attempt to provoke the government into doing the same things to others.


That's not what I'm referring to charlie. I'm simply saying that if you decide to let some random dude bust a nut in your vagina because you wanted to have a "girl's night out." then you should pay for your choices. Truth be told I feel both the man and woman should pay for the abortion if they want it since it takes two to tango.

Oh...absolutely...I couldn't agree more with that. The other 50% just getting off free is total bullshit.

Now that is something I could get behind...compensation from one party to another. would it be messy? Probably, but like you said...if you don't want to go through it, the answer is really simple.
 
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That's not what I'm referring to charlie. I'm simply saying that if you decide to let some random dude bust a nut in your vagina because you wanted to have a "girl's night out." then you should pay for your choices. Truth be told I feel both the man and woman should pay for the abortion if they want it since it takes two to tango.

Yeah, people should take responsibility, but you're using an abuse to discredit any protest of the system. People fuck, people get pregnant, should the government be the ones to stop medical providers from offering abortion services? Should the government step in and force women to pay for excess services?

The joke is "if a man needs viagra, he must submit to a complete colonoscopy first."
 

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Yeah, people should take responsibility, but you're using an abuse to discredit any protest of the system. People fuck, people get pregnant, should the government be the ones to stop medical providers from offering abortion services? Should the government step in and force women to pay for excess services?

The joke is "if a man needs viagra, he must submit to a complete colonoscopy first."

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Encourage the government to step in and begin manipulating regulatory laws and you'll eventually get to feel the other end of that when the other side does the same thing. This is absolutely no different than the bullshit tactics the left has been trying for decades. "We won't ban something (because we can't), we'll just regulate the hell out of it and make your life miserable for doing it."

I agree it's bullshit...I feel many laws skirting rights are bullshit yet morons keep crying for the government to step in.

I will say that you are pointing out on small part of the overall picture though...what you keep bringing up isn't the only thing they are asking for, not by a long shot.
 
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Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Encourage the government to step in and begin manipulating regulatory laws and you'll eventually get to feel the other end of that when the other side does the same thing. This is absolutely no different than the bullshit tactics the left has been trying for decades. "We won't ban something (because we can't), we'll just regulate the hell out of it and make you're life miserable for doing it."

I agree it's bullshit...I feel many laws skirting rights are bullshit yet morons keep crying for the government to step in.

I will say that you are pointing out on small part of the overall picture though...what you keep bringing up isn't the only thing they are asking for, not by a long shot.

Regulation should be imposed to protect rights, not to enforce the religious beliefs on the nonbelievers.

As for what I keep being up, you're right and wrong - I am not really bringing it up, but addressing the focus of the people who think women should shut up. I think I have mentioned that it's way more than tampons. But yeah, thanks for reminding me how difficult this argument is to make when people focus on a small aspect of it and use that to negate the entire thing through hyperbole.
 

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Regulation should be imposed to protect rights, not to enforce the religious beliefs on the nonbelievers.

As for what I keep being up, you're right and wrong - I am not really bringing it up, but addressing the focus of the people who think women should shut up. I think I have mentioned that it's way more than tampons. But yeah, thanks for reminding me how difficult this argument is to make when people focus on a small aspect of it and use that to negate the entire thing through hyperbole.

I agree 100%. Sadly, the current political climate seems to be making regulation laws that are designed to limit rights protected by other laws (or the Constitution).

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Fuck Charlton Heston.

I know you're being mildly sarcastic...but yes, fuck him...and every other celebrity that feels that being an artist or actor automatically makes them enlightened concerning how everyone should live their lives.
 

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Yeah, people should take responsibility, but you're using an abuse to discredit any protest of the system. People fuck, people get pregnant, should the government be the ones to stop medical providers from offering abortion services? Should the government step in and force women to pay for excess services?

The joke is "if a man needs viagra, he must submit to a complete colonoscopy first."

Man i don't know charlie. I'm not invested enough in this discussion to care that much either way. I just look at it as a thing where if you're gonna go out & fuck and make a kid but you end up wanting to get rid of it then you should foot the bill for the procedure instead of having tax-payers cover for it. Anyways I don't think we'll see eye to eye on this but hey that's life.
 

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That's not what I'm referring to charlie. I'm simply saying that if you decide to let some random dude bust a nut in your vagina because you wanted to have a "girl's night out." then you should pay for your choices. Truth be told I feel both the man and woman should pay for the abortion if they want it since it takes two to tango.

Not when the other half climbs out the window after you go to sleep. Not when the other half is your cousin, uncle, dad, or brother because that does happen. Not when the other half is a rapist. Many is the time that women are taken advantage of sexually. And despite what happens many is the time that it ends up with a pregnancy you didn't want, and that the "donor" either doesn't know about or doesn't care about. So you have a choice, try to get an abortion done that you might not be able to afford. Or deal with it and keep this kid. A kid who might be a reminder of an incident, accident, or forced experience you might not want to remember.

Incest happens, rape happens. Not every unwanted pregnancy comes from a one night stand. Not every woman is so vapid to want to terminate a pregnancy because of a one night stand. And not every man is so empty inside to not want to know he has a child out there after such an experience. Life isn't like the movie knocked up where everyone ends up happy. But no one goes into such a situation lightly, not without deep thought. But for this option, there should not be unsuountable, financial, hurdles to jump. It is something where price, and availability should be standard. Because I don't know if you were ever a victim of sexual abuse, but for your own sanity having a reminder of this running around in your every day life is not an ideal place to be.
 
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