Why do we call it the "AES"

[evil wasabi]

Brings a smile to my face to see Tak and Charlie posting in this thread because I swear it feels like every time one of these threads pops up they say the same thing I do: always called it a home cart, and as such it will always remain.

You can complain about slowdown issues in MS2 and take us all the back to 2000.

 

[Takumaji]

Mikhail, we're on a mission from God. Or Neo Dio, to be precise.

 

[city41]

Dion didn't coin shit, AES was always there on the system, people always called it that.

Maybe in your local area, but not on the internet. On the DHP mailing list it was never called AES until Dion started calling it that . Yes, Dion did in fact coin the term "AES", I was there when he did it.

 

[Takumaji]

What's more, I've never seen or heard a Japanese person use "AES" when not talking to Westerners.

Wasn't there also an interview with an SNK official (of the real pre-Playmoa SNK) who didn't know what the interviewer was talking about when he called the homecart system AES?

Yeah, kinda silly and redundant discussion but well... you know... heh...

 

[Mendel]

And why do you call it the AES (hint: I´m not referring to any home system)

 

[Comrade Porn King Mikhail]

You can complain about slowdown issues in MS2 and take us all the back to 2000.

Funny thing is I played this on an overclocked 2-slot and it didn't "feel" authentic.

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

The question has been answered well enough... But, despite everyone saying AES is wrong, there are bits of evidence that AES can be used as a subtitle to set it apart from the MVS. Home system main boards and parts often have AES, AEP or AEC written on them. Various booklets have AES in them as well. The logo has "Advanced Entertainment System" stuck inbetween Neo and Geo. It's possible that AES was only used on English home system packaging.

Going by other SNK documentation (like the programming guide), I think they internally called the two platforms MVS and Neo Geo. That doesn't help much since MVS is still a Neo Geo and the home system needs a subtitle too... Otherwise they're both Neo Geos.

So, for better or worse, AES and MVS are here to stay. I don't mind using AES by itself, but seeing "Neo Geo AES" makes me cringe. It looks horribly tacky. The home system in a perfect world should JUST be Neo Geo, nothing more. Neo Geo MVS isn't as bad, but MVS works fine too.

 

[Mendel]

It's possible that AES was only used on English home system packaging.

That would make sense since AES, I think, is supposed to be competitive, superior brand to the NES.
There was no NES in Japan, hence no AES in Japan either.

 

[Xian Xi]

 

[Mendel]

umm... yeah... looks like the japanese manual has AES written all over it too:
http://www.neogeoforlife.com/downloads.php?cat_id=2&download_id=62

 

[Joneo]

Whether "AES", "NGH", "Home Cart", "Home System", or "MVS's Expensive Evil Twin" there's not one person here who doesn't get the reference. Mix, match, pick your favorite or collect 'em all. It's really not worth arguing about.

 

[Takumaji]

There's no doubt the Advanced Entertainment System subtitle is present on all versions, no need to proof it.

"We" say AES because, well, everyone knows what it means, that's all. It's still a non-official, botched acronym, another fact that also does not need to be proven.

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

As far as I'm concerned, the Neo Geo is pretty poorly named if people constantly have problems telling one apart from another. There's MVS, but the home system has no official acronym... Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

 

[ChiefofSB]

Well it was always clear to me the home version is AES and arcade was MVS because its SNK's products and thats what they called it

 

[Heinz]

AES is well just that, an acronym. You could make all sorts of acronyms based on official documents. It really doesn't matter what the fuck you call it. Mine has a name, he's called Tom.

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

I call my home system a Neo Geo, because that's what it is.

 

[VidyaGamez]

Whether "AES", "NGH", "Home Cart", "Home System", or "MVS's Expensive Evil Twin" there's not one person here who doesn't get the reference. Mix, match, pick your favorite or collect 'em all. It's really not worth arguing about.

I quite like "MVS's Expensive Evil Twin" I should start calling it that...

 

[CORY]

I always called my Neo Geo a Neo Geo...

There was no MVS carts available to regular customers at the time and nobody had a cab at home so there was no confusion possible whatsoever.

When the Neo CD came out, I still called my Neo Geo a Neo Geo.

Then the internet fucked up everything

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

Yeah, there was Neo Geo and Neo Geo CD. Simple. Then people started overpaying for Neo Geo carts... Those assholes! Because of them we had to buy the MVS arcade carts! Then we needed a new acronym to separate the two cart formats, thus AES.

If it wasn't for all those people driving the prices up on Neo Geo cartridges, the world would have stayed a happy place. Let's blame the collectors!

 

[SNKorSWM]

I have both the console and the cab, so some form of differentiation is necessary.

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

Yes I know. I have MVS and AES hardware too. I just like calling AES "Neo Geo".

 

[evil wasabi]

Yes I know. I have MVS and AES hardware too. I just like calling AES "Neo Geo".

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[HeavyMachineGoob]

And?

 

[evil wasabi]

And?

you were brought into the neo at the wrong time.