Which fighting game is closest to perfection?

Black_Hayato

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The most balanced?

Vampire Hunter/Savior, My favorite fighting series. When I play it I never feel cheated. I'm already biased on this.

SFA2/3, its a tie A2 had very good balance and vast improvement from A1. The line up was good, endings were good, the fightng was great. But A3 takes A2's gameplay and opens it up for creativity. It has the greatest SF line up, ppl forget you can tech out of juggles, and getting hit like that can work to your advantage, V-ism is fun, but not unstoppable like Chunli.

SF3 2ndi/3rd, it has the best combo system ever, you can expand and have fun while keeping the engine grounded. Capcom characters are finally given small charms like SNK does. Voices, animation, taunts, winposes, intros, endings, bonus stages. And daring innovative, yet very flawed gameplay changes. Unfortunately the best way to win is no fun. But you can say SF3 was Capcom's biggest attempt to be the best, and it shows, no laziness, innovation, change. But it didn't add up to the perfect blend it should've been.

KOF 98, I never really felt cheated, the system and balance holds up extremely well over time, unlike SF3. But its stock. the innovations and changes were small. It felt KOF, nothing more, just the sum of balancing and amending what was wrong in the previous KOF. But still enjoyable and rock solid.

Samsho 2, its the same as the vampire series, it just feels good and solid.

KOF99, cause it dared to change the KOF formula. Much like SF3 was to SF. An almost whole new and feel. But the play never came together for me, the strikers just dont belong in KOF. Of course many diagree.
 

NeoGML

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many peoplel like me :D

BTW, if anyone didn't catch that, i was kidding about the mortal kombat thing... i guess my sarcasm didn't get thru to you guys...
 

Apathy Wind

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Originally posted by NeoGML:
<STRONG>many peoplel like me :D

BTW, if anyone didn't catch that, i was kidding about the mortal kombat thing... i guess my sarcasm didn't get thru to you guys...</STRONG>

Naw, it's not that. We all just love MK that much! TOASTY!

Anyway - I have to add KoF98 to my other two choices (SFZ2 and SS2). Everyone knows it has great gameplay so I won't touch on that. I used to think the only flaw in 98 was the lack of endings. But now that I've played through and have seen the 99 endings I realize it wasn't that big a loss. I actually prefer the hidden end pictures they had in 98. It was fun to try different team combos and see if they had a special end picture. Some of them were really quite cool (Vice, Mature, and Shermie come to mind). A nice way to increase the replay value.
 

Mike Tham

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SFZ2 is supposedly better than Z3 in terms of the system but the cast of characters in Z3 definitely makes up for it. Many SF players consider SSF2X the holy grail of SF games.

The funny thing is, since we are not perfect, how can we know which game is perfect? How can we know how balanced a game is unless we can play every character to their upmost potential (ie :perfectly) ? I used to think Andy sucked in 98 until a friend started using him different. Of course, no character is as cheap as Iori.
 

jeff bogard

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if it's any game i'd say goldeneye i have never seen a bug for this game without the codes. other than that kof 94 is pretty close the rest i've seen bugs
 

remukhan

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Originally posted by jeff bogard:
<STRONG>if it's any game i'd say goldeneye i have never seen a bug for this game without the codes. other than that kof 94 is pretty close the rest i've seen bugs</STRONG>


KOF 94 sucks with no depth as compared to its prdecessors. and if u are talking about bugs then believe me, KOF94 has best of the cheapest infinity bugs of KOF history (where u perform the same move again and again and u don't even need to cancel the moves in between). what a game ! :mad:
 

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My only thought to perfection in a fighting game is Super Street Fighter II:Turbo
 

DEVIL_GUI

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KING OF FIGHTERS '97....NOW THAT IS A PERFECT FIGHTER (IT HAS A STORY LINE, WHICH '98 DIDNT HAVE TO BOOT)

AS FOR CAPCOMS BEST.....SFZ2..A GAME I AM UNFORTUNATELY VERY GOOD AT (I HAVENT PLAYED IN A YEAR, BUT I KNOW IM STILL GREAT) VERY BALANCED, YES.......I COULD FINISH THE GAME WITH EVERY ONE AND ONLY GET STOMPED BY "SHIN AKUMA" WITH EVERYONE (WELL HE WAS CHEAP, WHAT CAN I SAY)
RECCORD I THINK 18 PERFECTS ON THE ARCADE, SET TO DIFFICULTY LEVEL 4 WITH A SCORE OF OVER 2000000.......

SFZ3 WAS KINDA CRAPPY I FEEL......THE ALPHA COUNTERS GOT MUCKED ABOUT, THE STORYLINE CRAPPED UP THE CHARACTERS MOVES WERENT AS GOOD........
HELL ALPHA 1 WAS BETTER THAN ALPHA 3....

DEVIL_GUI
 

Jackal

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Super SFII, SF III DI & 3rd Strike, and KOF'98 are my picks for the most perfect fighting games.

KOF'98 is PURE KOF- none of this Striker rubbish. And you fight 6 teams- not just 4 as in KOF'99. I think the 1P mode in KOF'99 is way too short.
 

Lou Gojira

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You're all a bunch of fools because nobody mentioned Time Killers! That game was the shit! How many other games can you think of where the characters look like they were drawn by fifth graders? Or, how about the ability to get your arms and legs hacked off and still continue fighting? That game was just a diamond in the dust, and of course nobody remembers it.... <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Okay, seriously, my vote is for KOF '98. It's just the best of what made KOF so great up to that point. A story would've been nice, but oh well. I'm still happy...
 

Batsu_Power

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Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
[QB]You're all a bunch of fools because nobody mentioned Time Killers! That game was the shit! How many other games can you think of where the characters look like they were drawn by fifth graders? Or, how about the ability to get your arms and legs hacked off and still continue fighting? That game was just a diamond in the dust, and of course nobody remembers it.... <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
QB]

Actually, Lou.. I much Perfer SF:The Movie!! That game is pure GOLD!!! Jean Claude as Guile!!! Crappy Controls!! Horrible Digitized effects! Blanka was actually a mutated Charlie!! What more do you want from a GREAT GAME!!!
 

Devil_Gans

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hmmmm...well balanced?
SF3:third strike
kof 98
capcom vs snk(ratio system)
marvel vs capcom 1


most unbalanced
marvel vs capcom 2
kof 2000
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I have to have a few category choices on this.

For the 3/d hand to hand set: Dead or Alive 2: Hardcore

For 3/d with weapons: Duh, Soul Calibur

For modern 2/d: Gotta go with KOF Evolution on Dreamcast. It just feels like it plays a tad better than it does on the Neo, and KOF 99 is the best one IMO.

For 2/d with weapons: Guilty Gear X

And a classic... Fatal Fury Special <IMG SRC="smilies/glee.gif" border="0">
 

heatblazer

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The greatest 2D beat em up is Street Fighter
ALPHA,think of it.
Other cool games are Samurai Shodown2,LB2,
KOF sucks(all of them),X-Men vs Street Fighter,Garou MotW,Garou Densetsu Special and
ofcourse the greatest game Karnov`s Revenge,
heh just kiddin`!
 

Apathy Wind

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Originally posted by heatblazer:
<STRONG>The greatest 2D beat em up is Street Fighter
ALPHA,think of it.</STRONG>

I love the Alpha series (my favorite SF series) but the original Alpha is the weakest of the three. I seriously dislike the chain combos in the game. Plus the later Alpha games improved on all the originals strong points. Anything SFA can do, SFA2 can do better.
 

HIDDEN WARRIOR

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Originally posted by Batsu_Power:
<STRONG>Actually, Lou.. I much Perfer SF:The Movie!! That game is pure GOLD!!! Jean Claude as Guile!!! Crappy Controls!! Horrible Digitized effects! Blanka was actually a mutated Charlie!! What more do you want from a GREAT GAME!!!</STRONG>

YOU TELL EM!!!!!!
 

Metal Slug

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Well,
Top 3D: Soulcalibur.

Top 2D: Capcom Vs SNK.

Top Handheld: MOTM.
(Ultimate MK3 on my nomad is better, but I suppose it doesent really count)

Honourable Mentions go to:
Bio Freaks.
Smash Bros.


Metal.
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seanpyro

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even tho Tekken Tag Tounament is my favorite fighting game...its far from perfection

since it can be broken' down in to 3 words

Juggle
Mishima
Ogre

but IMO Street Fighter III' 3rd strike is one of the best (if not the best) fighting game ever, reason why...

balance: one of the few crapcom fighters where Shotos dont own all

characters: alot diffrent fighting styles with is a plus for a 2D fighting game where 90% of the time all the characters play the same

animation: imo the best in a 2D fighting game..even better than GGX, just look at chun'li

music: *high five* to crapcom, all most every fighting game has HardRock or Trance
and they went out on a lim'b by picking HipHop & BrakeBeats

gameplay: i aint going to go in to deep when i talk about this...but
no 50 hit air_combos
no inf_juggles
no gay look'n full-screen super arts


(ducks under a few rotten vegetables and a left hook)


-Sean
 

dredgulus

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Though, many of you will disagree with me. I choose Guilty Gear X. The game shows what 2D games should look like. The different game features shows that this game has balance. From gameplay to characters, this game is the closest to perfection a 2D fighter will see in some time.
 
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