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No manual. Good sticker, snap lock, and insert (JPN). I have a good idea of how much it should be, but would like to hear from the rest of you... thanks.
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Originally posted by garou_d:
<strong>$250 - $300 not more IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's too much
MVS cart: $65
SAC FF3: $70
Service: JK($75); NG2K2($50)
Playing MS on a home system without paying the price of the original cart: Priceless.
Seriously, just do the math. $185-$210 TOPS.
Originally posted by Argentina94:
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That's too much
MVS cart: $65
SAC FF3: $70
Service: JK($75); NG2K2($50)
Playing MS on a home system without paying the price of the original cart: Priceless.
Seriously, just do the math. $185-$210 TOPS.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You forgot to mention the price of the trouble. You are only adding up the costs. You forgot the mention the shipping costs of the parts. It costs about $7 to ship a Neo Geo game. So we are talking about $14 for the two games. Then you have to ship them to Mr. Kurtz. That would cost about $12 insured. So we are talking about $26 for the shipping alone. Naturally, you have to find the parts first and that takes time and time is money. So a Metal Slug conversion would cost about $250 to make. I think that they go for $275. There is no real profit in conversions. You can expect to make your money back but not much more than that. The trick is getting the parts as cheaply as possible but still in good condition. I have done about half a dozen of these things and am fixing to do more. I hope that helps you out. By the way, my conversion had an instruction manual as well.
Originally posted by Argentina94:
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Playing MS on a home system without paying the price of the original cart: Priceless.
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I guess... If you're into Frankenstein games.
I honestly can't deal with conversions. I'd get a converter and the MVS cart. No need to destroy a perfectly good FF3.
No need to destroy a perfectly good FF3. <hr></blockquote>
I'd be willing to buy a working FF3 MVS made from a reverse conversion. Anyone else?
Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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I guess... If you're into Frankenstein games.
I honestly can't deal with conversions. I'd get a converter and the MVS cart. No need to destroy a perfectly good FF3.</strong><hr></blockquote>
amen there bruh! saddens me to hear about the FF3 or KoF95 SACs out there just to get Metal Slug Conv and sad part is, its not even that great of a game. tho this doesn't mean i will ever try to unload my JPN and AES carts. still i haven't played this metal slug for well over 3 yrs... sad indeed.
Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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I guess... If you're into Frankenstein games.
I honestly can't deal with conversions. I'd get a converter and the MVS cart. No need to destroy a perfectly good FF3.</strong><hr></blockquote>
This is simply your elitist attitude at work, Chuck.
What I can't deal with is all the collectors who go PETA on material items that they don't own.
I'm not upset at you, because I normally respect your posts, but I'm simply responding to your comments in kind, no more.
Makismo: Actually, the carts both included the cost of shipping, since I'm speaking from personal experience. What I didn't include was the shipping to and from the convertor (which I would say $10 each way).
Also, in the case of my MS, NG2K2 already had the cart on hand (KOF '95) so I paid no shipping for it.
Really, this could easily be had for $200 max. Just look for a non-collectors quality sac cart and the rest is easy.
Originally posted by evasyar:
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amen there bruh! saddens me to hear about the FF3 or KoF95 SACs out there just to get Metal Slug Conv and sad part is, its not even that great of a game. tho this doesn't mean i will ever try to unload my JPN and AES carts. still i haven't played this metal slug for well over 3 yrs... sad indeed. </strong><hr></blockquote>
I will agree on the quality of KOF 95, but if you think that MS is not a very good game, I shudder to think on your opinion on Fatal Fury 3.
Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<strong>I own Metal Slug and BTG on home cart. Even before i bought them I never wanted a conversion. It was the homecart or the MVS cart or the CD.
Honestly, if you really wanted to play BTG, you'd buy the Neo CD version. Then you'd get the same exact game + the Scotland course.
Conversions are a joke. If arguing against the validity of conversions as a worthwhile endeavor or purchase makes me an elitist, then I happily accept the title.
Regarding Metal Slug 1 - there are so many ways to play the game - MVS, CD, roms, PSX, Saturn. If you feel like you won't be happy unless you play it through your home console, then you need to seek help. The best versions of metal slug 1 include the combat school - namely the Saturn version with a ram card and the Neo CD version.
Moreover, if you are buying up more than 1 conversion because you can't afford games, then you are stupid. It's cheaper to get a phantom 1 and 2 mvs carts than it is to buy a conversion of BTG and a conversion of metal slug 1. In fact, even if you include FEDEX shipping to overnight a a converter and 2 MVS carts it would be cheaper than buying the two conversions.
Stop lying to yourself. Conversions are a thing of the past - obsolete ever since the advent of the converter and the use of MVS boards at home.
There is no argument. You are either going to buy worthless conversion that are not collectible items and spend more, or put your money where your mouth is and buy the MVS carts. Because if you buy conversions for games readily available on MVS, you are either a hypocrite or a fool.</strong><hr></blockquote>
This can be attributed to the validity of owning the homecart system over the MVS hardware. How much did you pay for your MS and BTG, since you only bought them within a year? Why be a fool and waste money, regardless of the fact you can afford it, when a Phantom 1 or a Supergun would have been cheaper?
Point is, you had a preference for overspending on something you had no practical reason for doing so.
Conversions, while more expensive in the long run than a Phantom 1 + MVS carts, are done for a reason. I don't like a monstrous, bulky cart mod that makes my system taller than my television, nor do I wish to buy yet another system (Neo CD) for which I have no space, simply to play BTG with one exttra course. The conversion would cost me the same as the system and the CD and it's smaller.
Once you mentioned "collectible item", again I rolled my eyes at your elitist attitude. I play games, I don't collect them. I take care of them, but I don't look at them with future investment in mind. I use the items for what they were intended: entertainment.
Putting them in plastic baggies is a sign of paranoia and a necessity for therapy.
A Phantom 1 costs $270. The MVS carts for each of the titles in our argument cost $60. The total comes to $390. I paid $200 EACH for MS and NTM converted, not including the shipping costs I paid to receive the COMPLETED games. A Phantom 1 + 2 MVS carts would cost more to ship than two homecarts so I figure for the same price, I eliminated a horrendous looking piece of hardware that doesn't function all that well to begin with.
Your response only stems from your fear of destroying homecarts, not the validity of conversions despite your arguments to the contrary.
If validity and practicality we're the real reason, then ALL homecart owners would be the idiots, more so those who buy rare original carts whose value is in the stratosphere.
Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<strong>I own Metal Slug and BTG on home cart. Even before i bought them I never wanted a conversion. It was the homecart or the MVS cart or the CD.
Honestly, if you really wanted to play BTG, you'd buy the Neo CD version. Then you'd get the same exact game + the Scotland course.
Conversions are a joke. If arguing against the validity of conversions as a worthwhile endeavor or purchase makes me an elitist, then I happily accept the title.
Regarding Metal Slug 1 - there are so many ways to play the game - MVS, CD, roms, PSX, Saturn. If you feel like you won't be happy unless you play it through your home console, then you need to seek help. The best versions of metal slug 1 include the combat school - namely the Saturn version with a ram card and the Neo CD version.
Moreover, if you are buying up more than 1 conversion because you can't afford games, then you are stupid. It's cheaper to get a phantom 1 and 2 mvs carts than it is to buy a conversion of BTG and a conversion of metal slug 1. In fact, even if you include FEDEX shipping to overnight a a converter and 2 MVS carts it would be cheaper than buying the two conversions.
Stop lying to yourself. Conversions are a thing of the past - obsolete ever since the advent of the converter and the use of MVS boards at home.
There is no argument. You are either going to buy worthless conversion that are not collectible items and spend more, or put your money where your mouth is and buy the MVS carts. Because if you buy conversions for games readily available on MVS, you are either a hypocrite or a fool.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I've gotta agree with Charlie on this one. Whether or not you care about collectibility (I honestly don't think that's the issue), conversions don't make sense. Chances are, if you want a conversion you want it out of practicality (in this case an MS convert is cheaper than the real thing). But if you were really interested in practicality... why on earth would you buy a conversion? Conversion will easily run you a couple bills... whereas the MVS cart can be had for much cheaper, as can the Saturn or PSX versions.
The only thing I can maybe understand is for unreleased home cart version. Personally, I'd still rather have the original MVS versions, but that's just me.
I'm not saying you're wrong Sal. You can do whatever you want with your stuff. I like you a lot Sal and I think you're a good guy, so I'm in no way attacking you. It's just my opinion.
I'll probably never own MS or BTG on homecart. I'd love to, but I just can't afford it . So MVS for me.