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Hello, everybody.
I saw the Terminator Salvation movie last night. Yes, I know there is a thread already dedicated to this film, but I think the points below deserve a thread of their own, as well as their own discussion/debate and would probably be lost if I posted them in the other thread.
If you have not seen the movie, you probably don’t want to read below because I will give the movie away.
I thought the movie was okay, meaning, the idea for the movie was good, but it could have been done better had the producers and director not churned out a half-a** effort in an attempt at a quick-cash-grab off the Terminator franchise.
I acknowledge the Terminator series to be sci-fi/fantasy, but even then, I like a plot to be realistic, and not far-fetched as this one was. Most important of all, the plot should make sense, and in many instances, the plot to TS makes no sense at all.
Here are some points of the movie that make no sense at all:
1. Skynet identifies Kyle Reese as its #1 target for termination, but when Skynet captures him, what does it do? Kill him, right? Wrong. After going out of its way to capture and identify its #1 target for termination, Skynet keeps him alive and imprisons him so that John Connor can free him. Great idea, Hollywood. Like a machine is going to go against its own mission priorities to keep alive the suspense and drama.
2. Skynet creates Marcus Wright as a precursor to the T-800, and he is supposedly half-man, half-machine. But the whole dialogue between Marcus and the Skynet computer makes absolutely no sense after all. Skynet tries to reason with Marcus that he is a machine and is on Skynet’s side. Now, this is ridiculous. Skynet is trying to reason with Marcus, instead of simply programming him. And then, when Marcus decides that he is human, not machine, gee, Skynet not only doesn’t see that coming, but it also has no defense (e.g., other terminators or machines around) to attack Marcus or defend itself against him.
3. At the part when Arnold Schwarzaneggar appears in the film, he is the prototype T-800 lying in wait in a trap to kill John Connor. But while every other Terminator in the movie is armed with a Gatling machine gun, the very terminator that is being used in the trap to kill John Connor, the very one assigned this great mission, is completely unarmed, and instead of killing Connor, it simply smacks him around a bit.
4. Skynet headquarters are supposed to be heavily guarded so that both infiltration and escape are impossible, but John Connor finds his way in readily easily, and is able to move around quite easily without any Terminators finding him or knowing he is there. To make it worse, this was a trap for Connor laid out by Skynet, and it still has not terminators around to kill him while he wanders freely through Skynet HQ.
5. When John Connor finds the prison cells in Skynet, he is able to open them by what is essentially a manually-controlled switch. Ahem, but why would a completely mechanized base that is controlled by a computer and filled with machines have a switch panel for a human to open the cells? Hello?
6. Skynet headquarters are supposed to be heavily guarded so that both infiltration and escape are impossible (see # 4 above), but rescue choppers are able to fly in and rescue all the humans without a single terminator or Hunter-Killer or anything else for that matter opening fire on, or offering any sort of resistance to, the choppers.
I'm sure there are other parts to the movie that made no sense to me, but I'll think of them later.
Anyhow, TS > T3, but that isn't saying much. TS wasn't bad, it just wasn't great, and it had the potential to be so.
TS is to T1/T2 what Phantom Menace is to Star Wars.
I saw the Terminator Salvation movie last night. Yes, I know there is a thread already dedicated to this film, but I think the points below deserve a thread of their own, as well as their own discussion/debate and would probably be lost if I posted them in the other thread.
If you have not seen the movie, you probably don’t want to read below because I will give the movie away.
I thought the movie was okay, meaning, the idea for the movie was good, but it could have been done better had the producers and director not churned out a half-a** effort in an attempt at a quick-cash-grab off the Terminator franchise.
I acknowledge the Terminator series to be sci-fi/fantasy, but even then, I like a plot to be realistic, and not far-fetched as this one was. Most important of all, the plot should make sense, and in many instances, the plot to TS makes no sense at all.
Here are some points of the movie that make no sense at all:
1. Skynet identifies Kyle Reese as its #1 target for termination, but when Skynet captures him, what does it do? Kill him, right? Wrong. After going out of its way to capture and identify its #1 target for termination, Skynet keeps him alive and imprisons him so that John Connor can free him. Great idea, Hollywood. Like a machine is going to go against its own mission priorities to keep alive the suspense and drama.
2. Skynet creates Marcus Wright as a precursor to the T-800, and he is supposedly half-man, half-machine. But the whole dialogue between Marcus and the Skynet computer makes absolutely no sense after all. Skynet tries to reason with Marcus that he is a machine and is on Skynet’s side. Now, this is ridiculous. Skynet is trying to reason with Marcus, instead of simply programming him. And then, when Marcus decides that he is human, not machine, gee, Skynet not only doesn’t see that coming, but it also has no defense (e.g., other terminators or machines around) to attack Marcus or defend itself against him.
3. At the part when Arnold Schwarzaneggar appears in the film, he is the prototype T-800 lying in wait in a trap to kill John Connor. But while every other Terminator in the movie is armed with a Gatling machine gun, the very terminator that is being used in the trap to kill John Connor, the very one assigned this great mission, is completely unarmed, and instead of killing Connor, it simply smacks him around a bit.
4. Skynet headquarters are supposed to be heavily guarded so that both infiltration and escape are impossible, but John Connor finds his way in readily easily, and is able to move around quite easily without any Terminators finding him or knowing he is there. To make it worse, this was a trap for Connor laid out by Skynet, and it still has not terminators around to kill him while he wanders freely through Skynet HQ.
5. When John Connor finds the prison cells in Skynet, he is able to open them by what is essentially a manually-controlled switch. Ahem, but why would a completely mechanized base that is controlled by a computer and filled with machines have a switch panel for a human to open the cells? Hello?
6. Skynet headquarters are supposed to be heavily guarded so that both infiltration and escape are impossible (see # 4 above), but rescue choppers are able to fly in and rescue all the humans without a single terminator or Hunter-Killer or anything else for that matter opening fire on, or offering any sort of resistance to, the choppers.
I'm sure there are other parts to the movie that made no sense to me, but I'll think of them later.
Anyhow, TS > T3, but that isn't saying much. TS wasn't bad, it just wasn't great, and it had the potential to be so.
TS is to T1/T2 what Phantom Menace is to Star Wars.
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