Shawn got the new AES systems for 200 each? Pocket games for 3 each?

Highlander67

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I have read alot and not to play Devil's Advocate, here is my .02 cents on the whole issue. I don't know Shawn more than a few e-mails that we have conversed through and the chatroom once in a while. Regardless of the price he sold them at, he was able to sell them with ease. Maybe his logic on keeping them for more than one day is a little hazy but that in all honesty it is his business. 10/11 people were found and purchased these systems and they are now gone.

Would I pay $1,000.00 for one of these systems, No. But it is not fair at the same time to ridicule someone that can with a supply of more money then some people.

Think of it this way, with supply and demand, you know when you have a hot product. In this case, 10 AES unit solds for a price most were nto expecting. Now I have heard of a price of $500.00 circulating around that these AES systems were to be sold for. If this is true, then that is wrong morally. But there was no firm price set and no contract given by Shawn for that price. Only an estimate.

Think of it this way, alot of people if given the same chance and oppurtunity might if not would totally do the same. Think of it this way, you purchase an item in the store, let's say a Stereo Receiver. The price of that receiver is say $500.00. The store you are about to purchase it from made double then what they bought it for. Do you think knowing what the price is that the store bought it for will reduce it to you? NO.

The point is, Shawn made a profit and that is his choice. While I don't know his personal affairs and really don't want to, he has put out a large amount of money to purchase Neo Related items, which is alot more then many other people would even fantom of doing.

Just my two cents

[ November 09, 2001: Message edited by: Highlander67 ]
 

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Look at it this way. Shawn could have sold them for $400.00 apiece, people still would have found something to bitch about (Who got to them first, one person buying several, etc.) and then a lot of the people probably would have turned around and sold them on eBay for $800.00 or more easily.
 

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Then why were YOU ALL bitching about Neo Geo Freaks prices????? I am not defending NeoGeo Freak I think their practices and policies suck! But everyone complained about their rediculously high prices and I am seeing the same thing happening with Shawn now but a number of you now appear to be defending these practices. I think he should be making a profit but it what he paid is true I think it is disgusting what he is charging. I paid $300 for a brand new one from Neo Geo Super Sellers a few years back and you can bet he was making a profit. A $1000 that is just sick. Well I guess this is no longer a hobby it is for people that have more money than brains. I been in the community since Neo Alecs was the hot spot I think I have finally had it.
 

Highlander67

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Take in account that Neo Geo Freak also converts carts and passes them off as offical. I think that is one of the biggest complaints people have with them.
 

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I'm not really thrilled with the price increase, but Shawn is a business man.True, th price is high,but since he sold them all that is good for him. If someone offered yo $150-200 for a mint Bare Knuckle 3(Streets of Rage 3) or even a mint US verion, wouldn't you sell it for that price? His reasons for jacking up the price were questionable, but as long as someone is willing to buy it for the higher price, they'll always win.
 

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I always think that Shawn is a smart businessman (indeed he's a businessman).

Well......we'll not bitch if we all have money like Bill Gates <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

It's nobody's fault but those stupid "collectors/buyers" <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by whit:
<STRONG>Then why were YOU ALL bitching about Neo Geo Freaks prices????? I am not defending NeoGeo Freak I think their practices and policies suck! But everyone complained about their rediculously high prices and I am seeing the same thing happening with Shawn now but a number of you now appear to be defending these practices. I think he should be making a profit but it what he paid is true I think it is disgusting what he is charging. I paid $300 for a brand new one from Neo Geo Super Sellers a few years back and you can bet he was making a profit. A $1000 that is just sick. Well I guess this is no longer a hobby it is for people that have more money than brains. I been in the community since Neo Alecs was the hot spot I think I have finally had it.</STRONG>

The main anger with NGF is related to fake inserts, stickers placed on carts and in manuals, products never delivered, or delivered in substandard condition, condescending attitude, passing off fake items as authentic real ones, etc. Prices were an issue, but these other issues with NGF are the main reasons why people hate them as a "company", and won't ever do business with them.

And worst of all, witness what NGF did with the "English" KOF2K carts. They apparently got a small quantity of original carts from SNK, but then replaced the authentic insert, manual cover, and cart sticker with their fake freaked bullshit (adding their URLs to the packaging). THIS was among the WORST things they ever did, ruining an apparent official release with their fake garbage. THAT kind of thing is why we hate NGF . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by NeoLord:
<STRONG>
We're voicing ourconcerns and you call it whining? Only a small majority is
complaining about this? Where have you been for the past 3 hours? <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> You might
want to affix your glasses firmly to your nose and read the board again! <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0">
<IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

Here... you might want to address one of your many faults, Mr. Christian: <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">

http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=002697

[ November 09, 2001: Message edited by: NeoLord ]</STRONG>

Hey thanks for pointing out that post Neolord, I completely missed it last night. I remember Heed, he was the one trying to fleece people in the selling of his home cart system and games. I believe that he said his Last Blade 2 and MOTW carts TOGETHER were worth $1000, and you think that was reasonable? That would be about $500 per game, or redistribute it as you wish it is STILL very high.

So that was supposed to be some kind of evidence of something? Once again Neolord, I'm not sure where your logic comes from . . . but you've been confused in the past, so that's no surprise! <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Oh and yes it is a small handful of "whiners" including yourself, the jealous people who can't afford these new home cart systems and can only whine about it. I would guess that less than 15 people, in forums with 2000 plus members, have complained vocally about this issue. Some of their arguments I can understand (Blaine made some good points) but others just come across as whiners.

Put it this way: Do you go to a Mercedes dealer and whine bitterly that you can't afford their $50,000 cars? Do you protest because you feel the prices should be lower? No, you don't . . . you simply don't buy the product, thats all. Neither do I. That's the bottom line here, if you are unwilling or unable to pay the price, then don't . . . pure and simple. But please don't whine to high heaven about it . . .
 

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Originally posted by chimpmeister:
<STRONG>The main anger with NGF is related to fake inserts, stickers placed on carts and in manuals, products never delivered, or delivered in substandard condition, condescending attitude, passing off fake items as authentic real ones, etc. Prices were an issue, but these other issues with NGF are the main reasons why people hate them as a "company", and won't ever do business with them.

And worst of all, witness what NGF did with the "English" KOF2K carts. They apparently got a small quantity of original carts from SNK, but then replaced the authentic insert, manual cover, and cart sticker with their fake freaked bullshit (adding their URLs to the packaging). THIS was among the WORST things they ever did, ruining an apparent official release with their fake garbage. THAT kind of thing is why we hate NGF . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

You really love telling that story, don't you?
 

chimpmeister

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Originally posted by Daisuke Jigen:
<STRONG>You really love telling that story, don't you?</STRONG>

Yes I do indeed. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

It angered me to no end what they did with an apparent official release from SNK, they completely raped and ruined that batch of games. Fortunately, the truth got out and the value of the cart is still dropping to this day (hate to say it, but check the price guide and see how far down it has fallen). Just one more example of how low the NGF crew will sink . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">
 

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Still doesn't excuse the fact he jacked the price up from what he originally stated.

No amount of browbeating or excuses can make up for that.

He said $500.00 he should stuck to it.

Period.

No excuses.
 

LWK

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Originally posted by BonusKun:
<STRONG>Still doesn't excuse the fact he jacked the price up from what he originally stated.

No amount of browbeating or excuses can make up for that.

He said $500.00 he should stuck to it.

Period.

No excuses.</STRONG>

Doesnt change the fact puppetmeister is older then my grandfather, god damn!
 

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SWEET JESUS THIS HAS BLOWN UP!

any way, to answer all of your questions:

YES, the price for all the old stock from SNK was (dirt)cheap. all thier NOS has been including the shitload(and may i remind you, the last load) of home carts that NGF bought from SNK. if these shippments made it into the hands of NCSX and VGD/CARTMART like I would have liked to see, than we would have been the happiest sons of bitches amaginable. I still have the price lists that VGD and NCS had when they were expecting to get the stock that NGF got (well, NCS did get A bit,but that was it) and let me tell you, the prices that we would have been getting those games for would have made you cry, they were that low.

all in all, it was A mistake for shawn to pre maturly post A price before the systems came in. it is an absolute shame that they had to be priced so high. I my self have never owned A cart system (big neoCD fan) and god knows that if I even so much as glanced at one when walking through macy's electronics department as A child my parrents would have beaten me with A VERY big stick.
it just would have been the best feeling to get one of these systems new after all these years and crack one open like I should have so many years ago. I know I would have enjoyed it so much more than some collectore who is probably having the thing shrinkwraped right now to put on display in his show case. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">
 
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A couple points... Someone pointed out that Supersellers sold new systems a few years ago much cheaper. New cart systems aren't exactly easy to find these days. I'm sure the supply side has changed dramatically during that time period.

Second, everyone seems to think that the consoles were bought by collectors that won't play them. Who's to say that these things won't be cracked open and enjoyed by folks that wish they could have done so years ago. For some, the financial picture has changed dramatically since the early Neo days when owning one of these was a dream.

Brent
 
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