screwed by NGF?

Dan Elektro

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Diffusion, I love your graphic. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I have to admit, I have never done business with NGF, but after reading all the complaints, I never would. Why/how are they still in business? They seem to have completely alienated the people who would have been their biggest supporters and customers.
 
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Caris Nautilus

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Originally posted by Dan Elektro:
<STRONG>Why/how are they still in business?</STRONG>

Cause theres a ton of Neo fans that don't come to this site, or know about their rep.

Plus allot of new Neo fans may find their site, and not know about them.
 

Harry Hazard

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Chris e-mailed me today. I know he read this,he said he sent out the inserts a couple of weeks ago, he said he wanted a apology
but we see if the inserts arrive first...
It shouldnt take this long.
I had games shipped from thailand in 3 days.
 
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Harry, how much did you pay for shipping. Because I have order some mvs carts from sweden and paid $10 shipping. They arrived 3 weeks later. International shipping is really slow, unless you pay like $30.
 

Metal Slug

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My God! I have to agree with DK-Ex, again! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
Besides, they make such ridiculous claims for themselves, that the uninitiated must think, "Well it must be true, or someone would stop them"
I guess if SNK ever get their shit together and decide to defend their patents and good name outside of Japan, that might just happen! (Here's hoping!)
That and the fact that the always have their vocal supporters who leap to their defence!
God only knows why?

Fact is, They are crooks, and Pirates, and destroyers of all things SNK!

They are a Pox, about as healthy for the VG industry as burned PSX games!
As far as I'm concerned, if you buy a faked insert off of them, you are encouraging them to destroy real ones!
And we all know what that leads to dont we?
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Here's what MS has to say.
Dont let people like that drag you into their personal greed and lies!
If you wanna play MVS get a fucking CAB, or a supergun!
If you cant afford one, then what would you pay for the games with!
If you really must play MVS games on your AES, then buy one of those ridiculously priced convertors. Then if you want to you can buy cases from BB (which I hear good things about!) and download covers and manuals for free!
Its time people opened their eyes and stopped helping grasping money grubbing parasites like NGF to destroy our beloved Video Games industry!
....Ahem, <IMG SRC="smilies/spock.gif" border="0"> IMO!

Do you know what else I've had enough of????
No, I'll post later in a new thread, I dont want to derail this one.
 

Idburnu

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You definitely have a problem since you have waited so long to take action against them, but Paypal will still help you if you contact them and explain your situtation. I have used Paypal with 100% success as a buyer and seller for quite a while and it is true that they are geared more towards the consumers protection. When you the buyer files a complaint of fraud against a seller, they will put a freeze on the amount of money you lost out of the sellers bank account and the seller has to deal with it from there. Whatever you do, don't just sit there and take it. I am relatively new as an owner of a Neo, but would not tolerate a bunch of crap like I see from this Neo Freak website. Spend a little time and you can hurt them, through Paypal, report them to consumer groups, and remember that behind that computer and the schemes are just a couple of wusses who could not make it running a true business because they would end up with someone like me waiting for them in the parking lot after they closed. Most importantly, DONT ORDER FROM THEM AGAIN! I can't believe after all the bad publicity that I have seen on them that some of you guys keep dealing with them. Well, anyway good luck!
 
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Caris Nautilus

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Originally posted by Harry Hazard:
<STRONG>he said he wanted a apology</STRONG>

One thing he does not need is an apology, any bad shit that gets tossed on their names is all their doing, they've been doing it for years.

Notice it took him to read this, and see his ass getting flamed to email you?

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]
 

chimpmeister

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Originally posted by Harry Hazard:
<STRONG>Chris e-mailed me today. I know he read this,he said he sent out the inserts a couple of weeks ago, he said he wanted a apology
but we see if the inserts arrive first...
It shouldnt take this long.
I had games shipped from thailand in 3 days.</STRONG>

If he sent them, then why didn't he give you a tracking number? If they're only inserts, he could have sent them by Global Priority Mail and given you a tracking #, but I'll BET he sent them airmail and didn't bother . . . what do you expect?

Oh and btw, are they the fake freaked bullshit inserts they swap out of carts, or real inserts? Because I HOPE you'd never pay for that fake garbage . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">
 

Pichai

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If he sends it via EMS 3-5 days, Air Parcel takes 10-14 days. Anything after that takes weeks.....

Pichai
 

FeelGood

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Tradeenable doesn't really just offer buyer protection, but it also forces the transaction ot take place within a specific amount of time. You can set it so that from the moment you send payment, CRay has to send the product within lets say 7 days. I used this once, and figured it was overkill, because I trusted the person I was dealing with, but the other guy in my group didn't want to blow off a grand without protection, so it was cool. Basically, Tradenable makes sure that you pay, and the seller ships fast.
 

BioMotor_Unitron

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Originally posted by Harry Hazard:
<STRONG>Chris e-mailed me today. I know he read this,he said he sent out the inserts a couple of weeks ago, he said he wanted a apology.</STRONG>

Chris Ray, we are absolutely, postively, TRULY SORRY...that you were ever born, you worthless, conniving fucker.
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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Originally posted by BIG BEAR:
<STRONG>I'm not too 'CRAZY' about this service because it only protects the consumer and not the seller.Not to mention how long the process takes.
I just would'nt deal with them (NGF) PERIOD.

Just make sure your inside before dark because
"THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT."
-BB

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]</STRONG>

OHH BUT YOU DID DEAL WITH THEM A FEW TIMES BEFORE DID YOU NOT??? HEHEHEH...

YA HYPOCRITICAL GOOF..

SNK IS SNK THERE IS NO OTHER....

APPLE=MVS,NEO PRINT,METAL SLUG 3 RE,SENGOKU 3

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL ]
 

BIG BEAR

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Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>OHH BUT YOU DID DEAL WITH THEM A FEW TIMES BEFORE DID YOU NOT??? HEHEHEH...

YA HYPOCRITICAL GOOF..

SNK IS SNK THERE IS NO OTHER....

APPLE=MVS,NEO PRINT,METAL SLUG 3 RE,SENGOKU 3

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL ]</STRONG>

You wish to drag me into the 'WRONG DOING' of NGF because I 'SHOT YA' down on your bullshit claims in the past!
I've dealt with the slime(mostly selling)before this NGF bullshit group ever started!
Chris's Boy Dion tried to employ some 'MAFIA TYPE' business practices on 'SHOCK' when it came to the MVS case fiasco..
"DEAL WITH ME,OR I'LL SLANDER YOU" type stuff.
sooooo once again DSD,you come to te table with no facts ,just the same ol' bulshit rhetoric!
"THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT" & so do the 'DRUNKS' Everyone, heed my warnings and get inside before dark!
-BB

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]
 

BIG BEAR

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Originally posted by Harry Hazard:
<STRONG>Chris e-mailed me today. I know he read this,he said he sent out the inserts a couple of weeks ago, he said he wanted a apology
but we see if the inserts arrive first...
It shouldnt take this long.
I had games shipped from thailand in 3 days.</STRONG>

Chris wants an apology? Oh how disgusting!!
He wants an apology for accepting 'YOUR HARD EARNED DOLLAR' for 'NOTHING IN RETURN'
Yeah...I believe this deserves an apology.
Now I ask any of you...Is this anyway to run a business?
He has your money,you have no product and 'HE DEMANDS AN APOLOGY'?
This is just mind numbing..mind numbing indeed..
He should be apologizing to you and trying to make good!
He visits this BBS religiously so count the days now oon when you receive your stuff...
Today is the 1st so if your product arrives within the week.Chris just got around to shipping the 'YOUR' merchandise out.
-BB
 

BIG BEAR

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Originally posted by FTL:
<STRONG>BB: That's was the point of C Ray too.

Believe me,I never thought about it first.
Infact I'm very honest and didn't even image to damage items of the seller using tradenable advantages...but hey,as Fran told me...if you are thinking and you are worried about this bad things,like damaging seller items by bad will,you DID that before.

Nothing to do with you,BB,don't get me wrong.

But if I bother to set a deal and make efforts to have a certain items,sending money and wasting time...that's why I really want an item..not just to fool someone.</STRONG>

I understand..you have to take any and every precaution you can before confronting a 'SCORPION'
That is alot of money involved so 'MY BAD'
TRADENABLE is probably good route when that much money is on the table...
-BB
 

Metal Slug

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Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
<STRONG>Chris Ray, we are absolutely, postively, TRULY SORRY...that you were ever born, you worthless, conniving fucker.</STRONG>

<IMG SRC="smilies/eek2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
LOLOLOL!
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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Originally posted by BIG BEAR:
<STRONG>You wish to drag me into the 'WRONG DOING' of NGF because I 'SHOT YA' down on your bullshit claims in the past!
I've dealt with the slime(mostly selling)before this NGF bullshit group ever started!
Chris's Boy Dion tried to employ some 'MAFIA TYPE' business practices on 'SHOCK' when it came to the MVS case fiasco..
"DEAL WITH ME,OR I'LL SLANDER YOU" type stuff.
sooooo once again DSD,you come to te table with no facts ,just the same ol' bulshit rhetoric!
"THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT" & so do the 'DRUNKS' Everyone, heed my warnings and get inside before dark!
-BB

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]</STRONG>

you havent shot shit down....only made yourself look more stupider with those lame 2 bit comebacks you think are so thought provokeing.......gummy bear..
go climb a tree ya tree jumper
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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Originally posted by BIG BEAR:
<STRONG>I understand..you have to take any and every precaution you can before confronting a 'SCORPION'
That is alot of money involved so 'MY BAD'
TRADENABLE is probably good route when that much money is on the table...
-BB</STRONG>

puny bears got alot of nerve givin this cat advice on why not to deal with ngf...

AFTER ALL he got jOYSTICKED in the ass the hardest outta all the morons dumb enough to deal with them....AHAHAHAAAAA
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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Originally posted by BIG BEAR:
<STRONG>You wish to drag me into the 'WRONG DOING' of NGF because I 'SHOT YA' down on your bullshit claims in the past!
I've dealt with the slime(mostly selling)before this NGF bullshit group ever started!
Chris's Boy Dion tried to employ some 'MAFIA TYPE' business practices on 'SHOCK' when it came to the MVS case fiasco..
"DEAL WITH ME,OR I'LL SLANDER YOU" type stuff.
sooooo once again DSD,you come to te table with no facts ,just the same ol' bulshit rhetoric!
"THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT" & so do the 'DRUNKS' Everyone, heed my warnings and get inside before dark!
-BB

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]</STRONG>

I BEEN KILLIN OFF THOSE LAMES WITH GUI AND LORD ILL LONG BEFORE YOU WHERE DIGGIN IN THIS SCENES GARBAGE CANS BOO BOO BEAR.
SO BLOW ME.

AND IF YOU HAD A BRAIN LARGER THAN THE SIZE OF A PEA YOU WOULD KNOW DRUNKEN IS A STYLE OF SHAOLIN GUNG FU...

BUT THEN AGAIN YOU ARE A DICK SO ID EXPECT THAT FROM POOH BEAR.....
 

BIG BEAR

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Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>I BEEN KILLIN OFF THOSE LAMES WITH GUI AND LORD ILL LONG BEFORE YOU WHERE DIGGIN IN THIS SCENES GARBAGE CANS BOO BOO BEAR.
SO BLOW ME.

AND IF YOU HAD A BRAIN LARGER THAN THE SIZE OF A PEA YOU WOULD KNOW DRUNKEN IS A STYLE OF SHAOLIN GUNG FU...

BUT THEN AGAIN YOU ARE A DICK SO ID EXPECT THAT FROM POOH BEAR.....</STRONG>

I did'nt want to offend the other 'DEVILS' besides 'DRUNK' fits you perfectly with all the mumblimg,stumbling,bumbling,rambling & swearing that you bring to this forum 'HOMIE'

So from now on your just the 'DRUNK'.I stripped you of your DEVIL status on that last go-around when you attempted to 'DE-FAME' the moderator of this BBS with a fraudulent phone call...
Your credibility is 'NILL' so go find a gutter nearby and finish off that bottle of 'NIGHT TRAIN' your probably holdin' right now -OR- would it be 'RIPPLE' this evening?

-OR- better yet how about breaking the law again by recording another phone call without permission and placing it on the internet..

you IDIOT!
-BB

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]
 

evil wasabi

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Originally posted by Harry Hazard:
<STRONG>Hi everybody...
1 month ago I ordered a couple of inserts
from chris Ray and still havent recieved
them. It doesnt look good,what can i do? i payed with paypal.
I should have known better...</STRONG>

Well the warnings have been around a while,if you didnt know about it then fair game its not your fault,if you did then
all i got to say is your probably not gonna be the last to be ripped off or treated unfairly and in some respects it would be your own fault.

As for NGF supporters on this site they have just got lucky or seemed to have fallen under the big tymer tag and treated fairly,
if you know anything about scam businesses youll know they get a few supporters by serving good business to them selected few
while some poor helpless saps like yourself get screwed.
A good example is the pc for £100 scam that happened over here,some small time business decided to give away £700 worth of pc for £100 all you had to do was fill out a survey for once a month for 18 months, if you didnt fill out the surveys you got charged the full £700(they didnt except credit card payments),problem was is they were sending out a few pcs while not giving overs the pc at all,this way they made the money back
the pc's probably only cost them £500 to start with and they gained trust by sending some people the pc and over time if they got away with it they would have made a fortune they were stupid though and got caught out,its the same with NGF
they know that providing they keep some good customers they can con the rest and earn lots of money in the process,they are clever in a way cos it keeps people in a not sure position while those that they give good business to spread the word that they are gods or something,they have access to the goods and they can send some good stuff when need be,but 70-90% of the time they will go the easy route,the money making route and con you.
 

Marco's Arms Dealer

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Thank god I found this place instead of NGF and Mark that sounds like the pyramid scam. <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">
 

evil wasabi

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Originally posted by Marco's Arms Dealer:
<STRONG>Thank god I found this place instead of NGF and Mark that sounds like the pyramid scam. <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Errr??? pyramid scam? sorry mate you lost me,in future ill stick up a warning : DO NOT READ MY POSTS IF YOU ARE ON LSD!!!!!!

<IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: Mark ]
 
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DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL

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Originally posted by BIG BEAR:
<STRONG>I did'nt want to offend the other 'DEVILS' besides 'DRUNK' fits you perfectly with all the mumblimg,stumbling,bumbling,rambling & swearing that you bring to this forum 'HOMIE'

So from now on your just the 'DRUNK'.I stripped you of your DEVIL status on that last go-around when you attempted to 'DE-FAME' the moderator of this BBS with a fraudulent phone call...
Your credibility is 'NILL' so go find a gutter nearby and finish off that bottle of 'NIGHT TRAIN' your probably holdin' right now -OR- would it be 'RIPPLE' this evening?

-OR- better yet how about breaking the law again by recording another phone call without permission and placing it on the internet..

you IDIOT!
-BB

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]</STRONG>

yea fraudulant CALL my ass,you have got to be the biggest cocksucker on this bbs and you do a good job at suckin from what i see, your comebacks are fabricated twisted truths,tryin to justifiy your pure idiocy and ass kissing views on shit you know nothing about .
ya nehoe.com dildo.

as for my foul mouth and babble...the name devils means just what it implies,vulgar,no shit takeing killers of ngf and neo hoes such as yourself...no sugar coating period...
fuckin lil babies like you always gotta twist shit and make up shit like "ohhh they must be ngf now" or "that phone call was a fraud" cuz quite simply we busted another neo ass wide open,now you tryin to lick the wound..

take the nuts outta your mouth and quit kissin ass for once....
you brainless boob.

LIL BEAR=ONE STUPID BITCH!
 
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