Respect For Capcom???

[Shin9999]

From my childhood I remember Capcom very well because games like Megaman and SF were the only games I played since there was nothing else. 8 years running and they still make the same games. Sequel after sequel after sequel, they keep hitting us with repetitive garbage. Now I know what your going say but all this mainstream garbage gets to me and makes me angry for some reason. Capcom is all about the money, porting every game to every system possible to make a little profit. I know its a business but this is just stupid. Companies like Konami or Namco are great because they dont use the same idea's other and other again but if they did like Soul Calibur, they would rearrange things, mix it up.
I have more to say but I got a giant headache, I finish this later. <hr></blockquote>
Man you act like Snk doesn't do the same thing Just like Neocell told me a few days ago I swear Kyo has seen high school for like 10 years man, what is he like 22 in highschool?
Kof94-2k1 are the same game. All you do is fight to win a tournament. YOU SAY CAPCOM IS ALL FOR MONEY THINK AGAIN MAN.
I can't even get Kof 2k1 cus it is like 200 dollars yet I know I can always count on paying 50 for a new street fighter game =P man.. Rain, Spinmaster, and Neocell are the only ones who respect capcom for what they are for and worth. You are just plain crap to sit here and say capcom is all for the money when you pay 400 dollars for a snk home cart..

 

[60 Second Assassin]

Why do you think they cost so much? There ports, think about it. Why do car mod kits cost so much? Have you ever tried to get a fucking Skyline here?! The fucking price will blow your head off while in Japan its cheap ass shit. Everything thats foreign always cost a lot more because it has to go over seas.

 

[Samurai Hamster]

Capcom Blows ,

They are so lazy , C Vs SnK 2 has the lamest music , backrounds and they didn't even bother to draw the characters right .

How long did it take them to make it , 1 day ?

Its an ok game but no classic ,

Snk only releases classics , that have much thought put in them ,

 

[YeldellGW]

Originally posted by VinylBoy:
Konami may be slightly different... but am I slightly correct for saying that Life Force (Salamander), Gradius, Gradius II, Gradius III, Parodius, Parodius Da, Twin Bee, etc... all follow basically the same formula as a shooter with just different characters? Again, a company "wearing out" a concept that works.
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Don't forget Dracula X/Castlevania.

Well, I haven't gotten tired of Mega Man, Gradius, Castlevania, KOF, Vampire, etc., but I must say I'm amazed this "the same crap" topic has been dragged on this far. I'm amazed fighting games of any kind are still being played considering the differences between them aren't as huge as some of you think.

 

[VinylBoy]

Originally posted by Shin9999:
<strong>
Man you act like Snk doesn't do the same thing Just like Neocell told me a few days ago I swear Kyo has seen high school for like 10 years man, what is he like 22 in highschool?
Kof94-2k1 are the same game. All you do is fight to win a tournament. YOU SAY CAPCOM IS ALL FOR MONEY THINK AGAIN MAN.
I can't even get Kof 2k1 cus it is like 200 dollars yet I know I can always count on paying 50 for a new street fighter game =P man.. Rain, Spinmaster, and Neocell are the only ones who respect capcom for what they are for and worth. You are just plain crap to sit here and say capcom is all for the money when you pay 400 dollars for a snk home cart..</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're being a little unfair by stating that KOF '94-'01 are the same game. In each installment, the game has either had new characters added, more game play options or both.

You cannot tell me that KOF '94 plays like '95, considering that you couldn't Team Edit or Max Counter in '94.

You cannot say that KOF '95 plays like '96, considering that dodges were replaced with rolls, and multi-level jumping was added with it... not to mention the new characters.

You cannot say that KOF '96 plays like '97, considering that now you get the option to use either "Advanced" or "Extra" mode, bringing back some classic KOF gameplay with more modern ideas. Did I mention new characters?

You cannot say that KOF '97 plays like '98... "mood sensitive" characters that change day by day affected aspects of the game. Lots of returning characters from previous titles.

And I won't go into detail about KOF '98 to '99... but teams went from 3-4 players! Strikers were introduced, as well as Counter and Armor modes... not to mention new characters.

Although the concept stayed the same (as it does with all fighters)... FIGHT TO WIN... the games ALL play differently. However, I do recall Capcom at one time going from SFII to SFIICE, when all they did is change the colors of some backrounds and made four unusable characters selectable. THAT is the most minor of upgrades of all fighters to this day, and didn't need a whole new machine because of it.

BTW... the price of making a cartridge has ALWAYS been expensive. Hence why SNK games for the Neo Geo Home Cart are high... you can complain about having your ports of KOF2K not available for the next-gen systems until two years later, but that's mainly because the company wasn't focused on doing much licensing back then. Saving money to spend $275 for a new Neo Cart on release doesn't make you any different than the person who spends $50+ for every Capcom release for their Dreamcast, X-Box, Gamecube, PS2, etc...

Regardless, each company is getting their money. Whether or not you think it's worth it to support the company, due to their business practices, is your own personal decision. If you want the newest KOF (or any game for the Neo Geo), you HAVE to get an MVS or Home Cart and spend the dough. Considering that most gamers buy 1-2 games a month for their next-gen system(at $30-$50 a pop) and the Neo Geo gets barely over 5-6 released games a year, the numbers DO balance out.

Sengoku 3
Metal Slug 4
Riot Of The Dragon
KOF 2001
... and coming soon: KOF 2002, SNK vs. Capcom

Up to 6 games at about $275 each vs 20-24 games at $50 a piece. You do the math...

 

[10 in 2010]

Originally posted by VinylBoy:
<strong>Regardless, each company is getting their money. Whether or not you think it's worth it to support the company, due to their business practices, is your own personal decision. If you want the newest KOF (or any game for the Neo Geo), you HAVE to get an MVS or Home Cart and spend the dough. Considering that most gamers buy 1-2 games a month for their next-gen system(at $30-$50 a pop) and the Neo Geo gets barely over 5-6 released games a year, the numbers DO balance out.

Sengoku 3
Metal Slug 4
Riot Of The Dragon
KOF 2001
... and coming soon: KOF 2002, SNK vs. Capcom

Up to 6 games at about $275 each vs 20-24 games at $50 a piece. You do the math...</strong><hr></blockquote>

and don't forget unlike mainstream games neo carts will hardly EVER decrease in value. you'd probably pay £30 (or $40) for a game and the enxt month that price is slashed by a 1/3 and then even cheaper preowned.

 

[SPINMASTER X]

Originally posted by Samurai Hamster:
<strong>Capcom Blows ,

They are so lazy , C Vs SnK 2 has the lamest music , backrounds and they didn't even bother to draw the characters right .

How long did it take them to make it , 1 day ?

Its an ok game but no classic ,

Snk only releases classics , that have much thought put in them ,</strong><hr></blockquote>


You sir are a 100% USDA approved Grade-A Dumbass.

[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: SPINMASTER X ]</p>

 

[Shin9999]

Regardless, each company is getting their money. Whether or not you think it's worth it to support the company, due to their business practices, is your own personal decision. If you want the newest KOF (or any game for the Neo Geo), you HAVE to get an MVS or Home Cart and spend the dough. Considering that most gamers buy 1-2 games a month for their next-gen system(at $30-$50 a pop) and the Neo Geo gets barely over 5-6 released games a year, the numbers DO balance out. <hr></blockquote>
Man wtf think for a minute man. SNK IS HALF DEAD!
Look at this capcom is still alive I can get count this :o nimusha2,Tekken4,DevilmayCry2,Soulcaliur 2
Thats around 150 and can I get kof 2k1 for 150 hells to the naw! Ok why dun you just face it the games are higher than any new system out. Dun try to defend them cus you can spit 250 dollars out your ass, cus I sure as hell can't so I get cheaper carts or get capcom games.

 

[VinylBoy]

Originally posted by Shin9999:
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Man wtf think for a minute man. SNK IS HALF DEAD!
Look at this capcom is still alive I can get count this :o nimusha2,Tekken4,DevilmayCry2,Soulcaliur 2
Thats around 150 and can I get kof 2k1 for 150 hells to the naw! Ok why dun you just face it the games are higher than any new system out. Dun try to defend them cus you can spit 250 dollars out your ass, cus I sure as hell can't so I get cheaper carts or get capcom games.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Look simpleton...
I'm not some rich kid or wealthy old man that can buy EVERYTHING brand new. I know what I'm going to want for video games, and I prepare in advance for what I'm going to purchase. I KNOW that a new KOF will be released on home cart just about every year and that the price is at average $275-$300 if I wanted it ON RELEASE. I save my coins up, and TAKE ADVANTAGE of the deals. ANYONE can do this, INCLUDING YOU. Don't blame me for taking the time to budget the games I REALLY want. YOUR problem is that you WANT IT ALL, and your petty allowance can't afford your addiction.

And just a side note... if you REALLY want to find used games for the Neo Geo at a cheaper price, YOU CAN. Take some time to look in used goods magazines, some of the lesser known internet sites and other forums beyond this one, and you can find the things you want at a price that is more comfortable for you. I remember buying two Neo Geo cart systems and 15 games (which included a US Gowcaiser AND World Heroes Perfect) for only $550!!! Sure... deals like this don't exist all of the time, but it's proof that if you do look you can find games cheaper. Most KOF titles, and MANY MORE good MVS and home cart titles (beyond the newest ones) are VERY affordable at this point. So, you can't get KOF2K1 for under $150... SO WHAT! Either wait for a port, wait for the price of the game to come down, or satisfy your addiction with one of the older games for all of the KOFs are good... and lastly, STOP YOUR BITCHING!!!

People know EXACTLY what they're getting themselves into when they deal with SNK/Neo Geo games... this wasn't a cheap system to begin with. DEAL WITH IT! <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: VinylBoy ]</p>

 

[solhound]

Originally posted by Samurai Hamster:
<strong>Capcom Blows ,

They are so lazy , C Vs SnK 2 has the lamest music , backrounds and they didn't even bother to draw the characters right .

How long did it take them to make it , 1 day ?

Its an ok game but no classic ,

Snk only releases classics , that have much thought put in them ,</strong><hr></blockquote>

What are smoking?

 

[60 Second Assassin]

Originally posted by Shin9999:
<strong>
Man wtf think for a minute man. SNK IS HALF DEAD!
Look at this capcom is still alive I can get count this :o nimusha2,Tekken4,DevilmayCry2,Soulcaliur 2
Thats around 150 and can I get kof 2k1 for 150 hells to the naw! Ok why dun you just face it the games are higher than any new system out. Dun try to defend them cus you can spit 250 dollars out your ass, cus I sure as hell can't so I get cheaper carts or get capcom games.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Those games are not ported from another country thats why. Everything that crosses over seas cost a fucking lot more. All those games that you stated are english based games, their company is also english and is published there after the japanese release.

 

[Rain]

Originally posted by Samurai Hamster:
<strong>Capcom Blows ,

They are so lazy , C Vs SnK 2 has the lamest music , backrounds and they didn't even bother to draw the characters right .

How long did it take them to make it , 1 day ?

Its an ok game but no classic ,

Snk only releases classics , that have much thought put in them ,</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hey, its another FanBoy! Who refuses to get into a game because all his SNK FanBuddies told him it was crap! So to be popular, he hates it as well to fit in! Loser.

 

[60 Second Assassin]

Originally posted by Rain:
<strong>

Hey, its another FanBoy! Who refuses to get into a game because all his SNK FanBuddies told him it was crap! So to be popular, he hates it as well to fit in! Loser.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe he hates Capcom for reason not affiliated with SNK.

 

[Rain]

Originally posted by 60 Second Assassin:
<strong>

Maybe he hates Capcom for reason not affiliated with SNK.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah maybe. Whats your point?

 

[Baby Bonnie Hood]

Originally posted by Shin9999:
<strong>Man wtf think for a minute man. SNK IS HALF DEAD!
Look at this capcom is still alive I can get count this :o nimusha2,Tekken4,DevilmayCry2,Soulcaliur 2
Thats around 150 and can I get kof 2k1 for 150 hells to the naw! Ok why dun you just face it the games are higher than any new system out. Dun try to defend them cus you can spit 250 dollars out your ass, cus I sure as hell can't so I get cheaper carts or get capcom games.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Let me repeat what Spinmaster X said:

You, sir, are a 100% USDA approved Grade-A Dumbass.

 

[K9999]

I respect Capcom, I've lost some faith in them as far as fighters are concerned. One good street fighter sequel every few years isn't enough. But if they can pump out games like Devil May Cry then I'll be happy.

[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: K9999 ]</p>

 

[The Auction Sniper]

Well correct me if I'm wrong, but if Capcom had never released Street FIghter in 1987, SNK as we know it wouldn't have been the same (KOF, Fatal Fury?).

 

[Shin9999]

Yah so what I want to much =P
I still think capcom can great quality games, you people just dont give them a chance. I got an aes home cart system equiped with kof 2k, kof 95,and ss2 euro.
I still play street fighter 3 and cvs 2 mostly everyday. Come on man face it if they really had a fight Ryu would kick Kyo's high school going ass =P so lay off with the insults old man.

 

[60 Second Assassin]

Do you understand anything I said? I said I like some of Capcoms games I just dont like the company. I have no reason to like other them the games it creates but I dont care. I dont like Capcom, PERIOD.

 

[VinylBoy]

Originally posted by The Auction Sniper:
<strong>Well correct me if I'm wrong, but if Capcom had never released Street FIghter in 1987, SNK as we know it wouldn't have been the same (KOF, Fatal Fury?).</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's not correct... that's sheer speculation. You're giving Capcom a little too much credit.

When Street Fighter came about back in 1987, it didn't revolutionize the fighting game genre, as SF2 did later in 1991. Back in that time period, SNK released games like Street Smart and Gladiator which were both VERY popular... not to mention games like Yie Ar Kung Fu and Karate Champ were still played majorly.

Would we have had KOF and Fatal Fury if SF2 wasn't around to help set the modern standards? Nobody knows for sure... but it certainly got things moving.

 

[SNKJorge]

I have respecte for Capcom and I love their games, BUT I love SNK way more than Capcom and that is not going to change. So SNK first and Capcom Second I am sorry CAPCOM fans.

 

[Lost Basura]

how rediculous to not like them. they've made so much good stuff i don't know where to begin.
Mars matrix
Bionic Comando
Mega Man
most Street fighter ( third strike or second impact possibly best fighters ever)
res evils
power stone
and hundreds more.

dislike capcom, i couldn't if i had to, they have too much of my money. & so what if they are moving on to new projects. its called supply demand, and whatever they are "selling out" to they are going to be one of the best sell outs.

 

[SNKJorge]

*yawns*

 

[prosper1ne]

id respect capcom if they would drop a capcom snk with a tag team option. i love tag fighters.

 

[SNKJorge]

DarkRouni, don't fucking even go there, because you are going to end up being flamed out.