Remove this shit

[Daisuke Jigen]

<a href="http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=008963" target="_blank">http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=008963</a>

this guys National Alliance link needs to be gone. now. That shit doesn't belong here. <img src="graemlins/veryangry.gif" border="0" alt="[Very Angry]" />

 

[Briggs]

His homepage link isn't any better.

 

[SAMHAIN]

so play the same hate game because you dont like what he believes in...
big fkn deal...


thats like me tellin you you cant hate ngf or too short or dkex...

if the guy loves his ppl so fkn what....


dont clik the link and read it like you did...

this is the kinda shit that pisses me off..

its ok for others to be proud of who they are,but if a white guy does it its a fkn crime..what bullshit...


you have the right to hate anyone on this planet,or be proud of who you are...

plain and simple..


i think the only ones that ever bitch about shit like that are the ppl who are the hated ones...

go hate ngf..

 

[NeoGoaT]

Hating an individual for a specific reason is very different from hating/condoning the murder of an entire race. That's racism, which I've seen as grounds for banning many times on this board. Sectarianism and racism have an actual effect in the real world, nothing like your "I hate everyone" internet personality.

 

[TonK]

Originally posted by SAMHAIN:
<strong>so play the same hate game because you dont like what he believes in...
big fkn deal...


</strong><hr></blockquote>

SAM, he has every right to believe what he wants, but that link doesn't belong in a gaming forum.

It upsets me that people in my race actually believe in this shit.

To each their own.

 

[Briggs]

Look, I agree that he has the right to believe what he wants to and I respect that the right to free speech covers him.

But at the same time, having a link like that is bound to stir the pot (obviously). People are going to click on that link expecting it to be some video game related site and be completely suprised and most likely offended.

I don't dispute his right to free thought but even you ought to agree that this is not the place for racial issues.

Bringing in NGF is a little off base as the reason people here are not too happy with NGF is at least based on Neo Geo video games which is the focus of the site.

 

[SAMHAIN]

THE NGF COMMENT WAS NOT IN TUNE WITH THE POST I ADMIT...

IM REALLY NOT EVEN GOING TO COMMENT ANYMORE ON THIS SHIT CUZ IT WILL TURN INTO A BIG POT OF BULLSHIT LIKE IT ALWAYS DOES...

I DONT CARE WHAT THE GUY HAS IN HIS SIG TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH..

IF THATS HIS KICK,SO BE IT...

TO EACH HIS OWN...

 

[Stephane]

lock this sig and ban this guy, that s the better way. we dont need someone you want share that !

 

[SNKJorge]

Originally posted by SAMHAIN:
<strong>THE NGF COMMENT WAS NOT IN TUNE WITH THE POST I ADMIT...

IM REALLY NOT EVEN GOING TO COMMENT ANYMORE ON THIS SHIT CUZ IT WILL TURN INTO A BIG POT OF BULLSHIT LIKE IT ALWAYS DOES...

I DONT CARE WHAT THE GUY HAS IN HIS SIG TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH..

IF THATS HIS KICK,SO BE IT...

TO EACH HIS OWN...</strong><hr></blockquote>

I thought you were funny at first, and I also

thought you were joking about this....

you are endeed a pathetic neo-geo village idiot,

I feel fucking sorry for your stupid ass. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: xtoo_short20x ]</p>

 

[Willeh]

I take cap's view on this one

Like Jigen said, that link doesn't belong here

 

[TonK]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x:
<strong>

I thought you were funny at first, and I also

thought you were joking about this....

you are endeed a pathetic neo-geo village idiot,

I feel fucking sorry for your stupid ass. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: xtoo_short20x ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I feel sorry for you.

Please, unregister and quit acting like you know ANYTHING about ANYTHING.

You need an open backhand to the jaw.

Now, please leave this forum.

You pathetic moron.

 

[Stephane]

you like more someone who accept some nazi propagande here ? i m really surprised.

 

[aria]

Here's my opinion, please read it since it's why (as of right now) I'm not going to change the link:

First of all: the Obvious
Anyone who posts something like that is obviously an insecure, pathietic individual -the type of person who comes out of his house/cave/trailer/etc. sees people who don't look like him, and flips out.

I find it greatly amusing that someone who supports "white superiority" deals with such a distinctly Japanese system as the Neo Geo. Guess he's a hypocrit.

Opinion
As for letting him put it in his sig, I want to side with Samhain. While it links to offensive material, (1) the link itself is not offensive and (2) the material leads to is not dangerous to (a) the well being of the computer (virii, etc) or (b) the well being of the user (no risk of getting in trouble for looking at material).

(1) The link itself is not offensive
Looking at the signature: it contains nothing more than a link. The user could have done much more offensive acts, like placing either a offensive symbol (swastica) or inflammatory speech. As it stands it's completely harmless (the URL doesn't contain offensive words), so lets move onto the linked material.

(2) The material it leads to is not dangerous
This can be sub-divided into things that harm your computer and things that harm your status at school/work.

(A) Computer harm
While the link is to controversial material, there's nothing harmful to your actual computer on the site, like a virus.

(B) Harming status
Here's where it gets complicated. There is no linking to objective material that will cause the person who unsuspectingly clicks on it to potentially get in trouble (reprimanded, fired, etc) at work/school for what pops up. The easiest example of this is Pornography. The only possible way for someone to be allowed is if they post a substantial amount of warnings around the link as to warn anyone who would click it. The question is, does the material that this user linked to qualify in the same category as something obvious as pornography. I believe not. There was a time, 30-40+ years ago where the whole "superior race/resistance" could get you into a lot of trouble (because a substantial amount of people believe it). In present times, it's the opposite: The overwhelming majority of people thing "racial superiority" so absurd that anyone caught looking at their materials is not assumed to be a member or have any interest in joining the group. While employers may have a problem with a employee linking to such materials on their business-related work (since that would reflect on the company), we are not employing him and he clearly doesn't represent us.

The flip side to this argument is, as has been stated above: Why should we, as a private website, permit members to post such offensive materials?

Well, we already do allow people to post what some view as highly offensive material in their normal threads. There are more than enough people who find problems with the Stars & Bars and what they represent. While this site will not tolerate Nazi symbols in a person's signature, I can't see allowing the Stars & Bars and not allowing a simple link.

I think, while this individual has a clearly illogical worldview, he did not post an offensive-in-itself signature nor is the material he linked to dangerous. The best this link might warrant is a warning, but I hesisitate to force that into the signature.

I have also noted he's staying strictly in the buying/selling and is trying to steer clear of any of the barbs sent his way. Those actions show that he does no intend use his signature to start a flame war.

If any other mods want to give their thoughts, please do.

 

[Stephane]

not dangerous ?

And that ?

<a href="http://www.natvan.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=724&p_catid=22" target="_blank">http://www.natvan.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=724&p_catid=22</a>

i m disgusted and think thats more offensive than you can imagine

you know about "epuration ethniques" ???, lots of peoples killed in europe for this shit, and this peoples make a game !

 

[Stephane]

who can accept that ?

"We must oppose the further spreading of this poison among our people, and we must break the power of those who are spreading it. It would be intolerable for such power to be in the hands of any alien minority, with values and interests different from our own. But to permit the Jews, with their 3,000-year history of nation-wrecking, from ancient Egypt to Russia, to hold such power over us is tantamount to race suicide. Indeed, the fact that so many White Americans today are so filled with a sense of racial guilt and self-hatred that they actively seek the death of their own race is a deliberate consequence of Jewish media control. "


<a href="http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america/" target="_blank">http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america/</a>

 

[aria]

Originally posted by Stephane:
<strong>who can accept that ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No one logical. It's pretty obvious that only complete morons can accept it. Morons who don't deserve the time we spend talking about them. Some people say the same thing about NGF ("just don't talk about them, you're giving them ads"). I think that applies here (it doesn't to NGF, because people are falling for NGF's scams all the time).

I don't think anyone on this site is in danger of clicking on that link and instantly turning into a white supremacist.

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Bobak ]</p>

 

[Stephane]

in the same time, can we accept and want some propagande in this forum ?
if we accept something like that, other peoples after can add some other little things, and finally that s can be a big problem.
i think.

 

[SNKJorge]

Originally posted by Cappadonna:
<strong>

I feel sorry for you.

Please, unregister and quit acting like you know ANYTHING about ANYTHING.

You need an open backhand to the jaw.

Now, please leave this forum.

You pathetic moron.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And you think I fucking care about you

cappadona and your stupid ass remarks?

Give me a fucking break.

No I won't register unless Shawn does the favor

for you.

Thanks.

 

[TonK]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x:
<strong>

And you think I fucking care about you

cappadona and your stupid ass remarks?

Give me a fucking break.

No I won't register unless Shawn does the favor

for you.

Thanks.


</strong><hr></blockquote>

You stole my posting style.

Lamer.

 

[Galford Forever]

Originally posted by Cappadonna:
<strong>

You stole my posting style.

Lamer.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I thought he was your little groupie for a while there. He was always posting right after you agreeing with whatever you said for a while and it seemed like he was trying to emulate you. He even changed his avatar so that it looked kinda similar to what your avatar is. He's since changed it to something completely different.

tooshort man, you really are starting to piss off a lot of people. I don't know if you're doing it on purpose and trying to be a tough guy or what, but just cool it man. Just try and be nice. It's easy to talk shit on a forum when you're miles away from the person your talking to. It's much harder to get along with people. Be mature and show some respect. That takes more balls than acting tough over the internet.

 

[Viewpoint]

I have an outward Suggestion outside of what Bobak is saying.

If you don't like the crap he has in his Sig then don't deal with the fucker or get on his ass each time he posts to remove it.

Seriously if the 'forum' mods won't touch it even tho I think they should to instll the peace so to speak, then by all means deal with it another way.

Nobody is powerless to deal with someone they have a problem with and Bobak is just being fair even tho I do not agree with how he's applying it..

 

[SAMHAIN]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x:
<strong>

I thought you were funny at first, and I also

thought you were joking about this....

you are endeed a pathetic neo-geo village idiot,

I feel fucking sorry for your stupid ass. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: xtoo_short20x ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

again this is why i dont talk fkn politics amoung morons...

the only village idiot i see here is you and your higher than tho atttitude ya newbie bitch

twisting what i say to fit the context of your infant minds..

all i fkn said was so gawdamn what if the guy is into the shit..

THATS HIS BIZ,NOT MINE...

I DONT LET OTHERS VIEWS EFFECT MINE..

grow the fuk up..braindead.

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: SAMHAIN ]</p>

 

[SNKJorge]

Originally posted by Galford Forever:
<strong>

I thought he was your little groupie for a while there. He was always posting right after you agreeing with whatever you said for a while and it seemed like he was trying to emulate you. He even changed his avatar so that it looked kinda similar to what your avatar is. He's since changed it to something completely different.

tooshort man, you really are starting to piss off a lot of people. I don't know if you're doing it on purpose and trying to be a tough guy or what, but just cool it man. Just try and be nice. It's easy to talk shit on a forum when you're miles away from the person your talking to. It's much harder to get along with people. Be mature and show some respect. That takes more balls than acting tough over the internet.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Galford,

I am not scared of any fucker in this forum, I

don't give a fuck who I piss off or who I don't.

thanks.

 

[OrangeMegaslide]

Too Short, Chill out! For real...

 

[K_K]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x:
<strong>

I thought you were funny at first, and I also

thought you were joking about this....

you are endeed a pathetic neo-geo village idiot,

I feel fucking sorry for your stupid ass. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: xtoo_short20x ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

maybe you should learn to spell before you insult someone. you are a shining example of the american public school system at work, "endeed" you are.