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If you can't tell the difference then you're too emotionally vested in this topic.
I grew up around guns and I've met my fair share of 5-9 yr olds and I can safely say I wouldn't put a gun in any of their hands for any reason. It's unnecessary.
You do whatever you want, but don't act like people who don't think it's a good idea are somehow not knowledgeable on guns or the mental ability and maturity level of small children.
Again StevenK there is more to it than that...
I grew up on a self sufficient family run farm til Age 10 when my father became a quadriplegic after an accident and my parents divorced. With the debt of my father's plumbing business and a mortgage on the house, she worked 2 full-time jobs to pay off his debt, initial 3 months of ICU medical bills and surgeries, and maintain things so my sister and I stayed in the same schools and home. With my Father going thru his own life battles and years of physical therapy and in home care, the state wasn't going to go after a "deadbeat disabled quadriplegic man" with no money. I had to step up to the plate and take care of things at home to include that farm as we slowly downsized it and began to sell off valuable livestock while continuing to grow our own produce and eggs.
As Lagduf said, it is a cultural issue, but also for me a rare position. I had a lot of responsibility for such a young age and it's truly hard for ppl to understand this without experiencing it.
I did what needed to be done and really don't care if you accept it or not.
There is even more to this story than said here and it gets very personal so I'm not going to share everything. Regardless of your opinion or thoughts of the subject at hand when applying it to what you would consider "average children" or "proper upbringing" realize mine was far from it.
Why do I even bother sharing this? Perhaps you will understand not only cultural differences but also hardships others face everyday regardless of age. You would realize I wouldn't just hand a kid a firearm, as one wasn't just handed to me. I was properly trained starting at a young age and under supervision before total hardship for 5 years on a farm.
Again, many of you just bring up it being wrong to even begin training a child under full supervision to respect firearms and that is your opinion and right. However, wake the fuck up and understand other ppls personal hardships, culture, and tragic events can be completely different.
I wasn't particularly commenting on the age as such, it was more the unsupervised aspect of it. There's a case for supervised firearms access at any age I guess, but unsupervised I can't be on board with.
This is the alpha and omega...
I place people into three groups when it comes to beliefs:
-Those that believe the same thing I believe.
-Those that can can possibly be convinced to believe what I believe.
-Those that believe something other than what I believe and are not up for discussion.
I don't argue with the third group anymore...hell, I don't even argue with group 2 anymore. I'll openly discuss something, but in the end, it's only opinions on an issue.
Dude's a bleeding heart idiot.
So Meller, what would happen if your country got invaded? You gonna rely on that great army of yours to protect your family?
It's no longer 18th century, we spend billions on those suckers of F-35 and drones that if they fail I doubt that a firearm makes the difference.
In a post-atomic scenario maybe, but in this case it's no more a constitutional issue...
So you think you're going to be left alone if another country invades yours? They're not going to bother to come to your house and see if you have valuables to take? Or even your own neighbors in a martial law situation?
Boy, Europeans really drank the kool-aid after WWII, they really don't understand self-defense and preparedness at all.
In an invasion situation Americans would kill each other far faster than any invading force could manage.
C'mon Sex Lord, history had proven that invading armies only go after the military, they don't touch the civilians.
...right?
No, the opportunists would strike after the invaders were chased off.
Oh, of course!
So you think you're going to be left alone if another country invades yours? They're not going to bother to come to your house and see if you have valuables to take? Or even your own neighbors in a martial law situation?
Boy, Europeans really drank the kool-aid after WWII, they really don't understand self-defense and preparedness at all.
Dude's a bleeding heart idiot.
So Meller, what would happen if your country got invaded? You gonna rely on that great army of yours to protect your family?
They would call Germany to bail them out. The EU's favorite pastime.
Well, historically speaking, Germans are pretty badass.
I'm interested to know which of those three groups you think most people would put yourself in?
P.s. not a loaded question.
If you can't tell the difference then you're too emotionally vested in this topic.
So Meller, what would happen if your country got invaded? You gonna rely on that great army of yours to protect your family?
I really hope the US doesn't decide to back up these euro fucknuts if they ever get invaded. I wouldn't want our boys to die to protect these space cadets.
I have nothing against Denmark, but ppl like Meller make me sick.
Pray tell, what have I done to make you think so ill of me? I don't like guns, so I make you sick? If so, I think you're the one who has issues here.
Pray tell, what have I done to make you think so ill of me? I don't like guns, so I make you sick? If so, I think you're the one who has issues here.