Playmore takes legal action against Arcade-Infinity, Worldwide, and NGF

Asure

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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So they found Warlocks of the Fates but...

Where was Ironclad?
Neo Pool Master?
Last Odyssey?
Fun Fun Bros.?
Ghostlop?
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Those are out there somewhere.

They took Crossed Swords 2 from WWV..

<a href="http://www.snkneogeo.co.jp/info/img/wve.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.snkneogeo.co.jp/info/img/wve.pdf</a>

Page 8 of 9

/me cries

- Alex

<small>[ January 23, 2003, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: Asure ]</small>
 

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Asure:
Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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So they found Warlocks of the Fates but...

Where was Ironclad?
Neo Pool Master?
Last Odyssey?
Fun Fun Bros.?
Ghostlop?
---------------------------------

Those are out there somewhere.

They took Crossed Swords 2 from WWV..

<a href="http://www.snkneogeo.co.jp/info/img/wve.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.snkneogeo.co.jp/info/img/wve.pdf</a>

Page 8 of 9

/me cries

- Alex
That looks more like a price list then an actually inverntory (Note no qty on the items)

maybe when everything is said and done we will see. But CS2 was released as a NGCD version.

Time will tell
 

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Worldwide Video also had Warlocks of the Fates?

Jeez.

Everyone had one except me and Billy Pitt.
 

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I can't seem to read all of the bottom...

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I can't seem to read all of the bottom...

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lol buttrock
 

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I can't seem to read all of the bottom...

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hahahahaha lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
 

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EvilWasabi, the seizure list is only of what was taken from Dion. The stuff taken from Arcade-Infiity and Worlwide Video are not listed. Personally, I believe the reason for this is very simple.

The pirate twins are arrogant pricks that have been waving their actions in the face of the former SNK and the new Playmore with a perceived sense of impunity. The fact that only their list of impounded items appears in the press release tells me that Playmore wanted it to be very clear the extent to which these two have been ripping off customers.

Their rep, what there was of it, is completely and utterly shattered for all time. No NGF fan-boy on the face of this planet or any other can dispute the fact that "thing 1 and thing 2" are out and out pirates that have continually lied and mislead the Neo buying public since the inception of their so-called company.

Put your stamp on that, boys.
 

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the WVE file seemed to include a price list with the prices whitetaped over. At least to me. And so I was wondering if anyone could have bouth Warlocks of the Fates and Crossed Swords 2 from them before 12/4...
 

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Well, I have to say that this is quite an amazing turn of events that we've seen. I really hope that Playmore can get the justice that they and the former SNK deserved. It's about time that the fear of god gets put into these pirating assholes.

GO PLAYMORE

buttrock buttrock buttrock
 

Asure

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EvilWasabi:
the WVE file seemed to include a price list with the prices whitetaped over. At least to me. And so I was wondering if anyone could have bouth Warlocks of the Fates and Crossed Swords 2 from them before 12/4...
Who cares :)

Ironclad and Bang Bang Busters were just spotted in the list as well. How the hell did i miss those ?. Anyone got em ?
 

Daisuke Jigen

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I really don't know what to say.

I just, this is the culmination of my dreams for the last 2 years.

I can really only think of one meaningful thing to say at this moment....
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EAT IT, JAMES MCCABE!
 

Parallax Abstraction

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Mike:
Bobak!

Email sent to the law firm.

Also, doesn't the TRO keep NGF from trying to sell right now?

Have you seen the post that Shawn made about Dion trying to liquidate 500 carts?

Maybe you should check that out....

Posted By Shawn
posted January 23, 2003 03:05 PM
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I also received an email from Dion today, looks like he's trying hard to scrape up some money for court costs. FYI, NGF won't be receiving as much as a reply from me. It would be a mistake to deal with the condemned you know. Besides the less money NGF has to defend themselves, the easier it is for Playmore to slap them around in court!

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Shawn would you be interested in buying a large amount of NeoGeo AES cartridges?

As you are well aware, for the time being we are not offering or selling NeoGeo items with our NGF inserts (until further)(even though the courts have documented that we have paid for the rights to repackage and offer our inserts).

For the time being this is the best way we can assure you that you will get the games as you specified. All games will be 100% original with the original SNK packings. As you know, these games are 100% new and have never been played. We can offer you a wide variety of stock which consists of over 70 DIFFERENT titles.

We will be blanket pricing everything to make it easier. No need to say "Game X is $30" and "Game Y is $120." We will just give everything a basic price of $50.00 flat. This will include such games as KoF95, KoF96, KoF97, KoF98, KoF99, Viewpoint, Spinmaster, Top Hunter, Sengoku 2, SSK, SSK3, Andro Dunos, Last Resort, ADK, Baseball Stars 2, SS2, Windjammers, Football Frenzy, Puzzled, Kabuki Klash, Galaxy Fight, Ghost Pilots, League Bowling, Crossed Swords, Mutation Nation, AoF series, FF series, Cyberlip, Stakes Winner, Alpha Mission 2, and many other titles.

The titles will not be "overstock" of one or two titles. Basically we will give you anywhere from 2 to 12 copies of each title if you're interested. Your order will consist of about 500 NEW AES carts of over 70 different titles.

This will without a doubt make you and your site the world leader in NeoGeo and items you have and can offer people. We can keep this all private and no one needs to know (unless you want to advertise it)(we won't). We will not be competing with you because the best way is for only one site with direct access to make the sales. We will also direct all people who contact us to your site so you can get all the sales and help you move more of your other items. We want to work together and promote the NeoGeo as best as we can.

I hope you are up to the challenge. 500 new carts (70+ different titles) will be a grand addition to your sales format.

Let me know.

thank you,
Dion
<a href="http://www.NeoGeoFreak.com" target="_blank">www.NeoGeoFreak.com</a>
Wow, original, never played SNK carts for $50? Where can I get in on some of that? Hmm...maybe not. :D
 
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dave6479:
I wonder if playmore would go after <a href="http://www.neogeousa.com" target="_blank">www.neogeousa.com</a> next for making conversions. They seized all of ngf's conversions. Ray is a good guy and I would hate to see this happen to him too. What do you guys think? Last I heard he was getting ready to start selling bust a move conversions. spock
Not if he explicitly states the carts are conversions. There's no misrepresentation involved in such a situation.
 

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EvilWasabi:
the WVE file seemed to include a price list with the prices whitetaped over. At least to me. And so I was wondering if anyone could have bouth Warlocks of the Fates and Crossed Swords 2 from them before 12/4...
Maybe...

If they had bought into the whole 'buy ten regular games, and then five big games, and then you can have access to one of the proto games' scam.

I doubt anyone managed to afford it...
 

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ha ha ha tickled

this just made my day :D

burn in hell NGF for all the peoples you screw up.

dave6479:
I wonder if playmore would go after <a href="http://www.neogeousa.com" target="_blank">www.neogeousa.com</a> next for making conversions.
well, I hope not. the difference is that NGF sold there fake carts as authentic.
 

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Actually, I think Playmore is viewing all conversions as bootleg, but as the saying goes:

The loudest and most arrogant MOUTH gets the c'Zock stuffed in it!

Ok, so I took some liberties with the saying, but you get the idea.
 

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Wow! I've been away for three days and look at what happened :) . This is great news! Way to go Playmore! I'm happy to hear that Playmore is cracking down on this crap, although I hope arcade-infinity doesn't go under, since they're the best place for candies.
 

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While I am personally psyched to see that this is FINALLY happening to the guys of NGF, I do want to bring up one concern.

With all of these games being seized, this should obviously be a clue to Playmore that titles such as this are wanted by the Neo Geo community. Do you think that they would at least CONSIDER releasing official versions of these games (US and Japanese) at lower prices to more legit dealers like NCS or others? I seriously hope that they think about this, for it would be great for Playmore (and the community) to get a chance to own some of these games legitly. It can also briing the system back into the spotlight and possibly generate a few more fans.

I just hope that this war against bootleggers is going to generate into an opportunity for the rest of us to finally get some more OFFICIAL games, old or new, to add to our collections, and possibly eliminate the crazy prices some of these games ask for these days (like the infamous $2000 US Metal Slug). Thoughts, anyone??

<small>[ January 23, 2003, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: VinylBoy ]</small>
 

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Here's a thought worth laughing over...

Shawn would you be interested in buying a large amount of NeoGeo AES cartridges?

As you are well aware, for the time being we are not offering or selling NeoGeo items with our NGF inserts (until further)(even though the courts have documented that we have paid for the rights to repackage and offer our inserts).

For the time being this is the best way we can assure you that you will get the games as you specified. All games will be 100% original with the original SNK packings. As you know, these games are 100% new and have never been played. We can offer you a wide variety of stock which consists of over 70 DIFFERENT titles.

We will be blanket pricing everything to make it easier. No need to say "Game X is $30" and "Game Y is $120." We will just give everything a basic price of $50.00 flat. This will include such games as KoF95, KoF96, KoF97, KoF98, KoF99, Viewpoint, Spinmaster, Top Hunter, Sengoku 2, SSK, SSK3, Andro Dunos, Last Resort, ADK, Baseball Stars 2, SS2, Windjammers, Football Frenzy, Puzzled, Kabuki Klash, Galaxy Fight, Ghost Pilots, League Bowling, Crossed Swords, Mutation Nation, AoF series, FF series, Cyberlip, Stakes Winner, Alpha Mission 2, and many other titles.

The titles will not be "overstock" of one or two titles. Basically we will give you anywhere from 2 to 12 copies of each title if you're interested. Your order will consist of about 500 NEW AES carts of over 70 different titles.

This will without a doubt make you and your site the world leader in NeoGeo and items you have and can offer people. We can keep this all private and no one needs to know (unless you want to advertise it)(we won't). We will not be competing with you because the best way is for only one site with direct access to make the sales. We will also direct all people who contact us to your site so you can get all the sales and help you move more of your other items. We want to work together and promote the NeoGeo as best as we can.

I hope you are up to the challenge. 500 new carts (70+ different titles) will be a grand addition to your sales format.

Let me know.

thank you,
Dion
<a href="http://www.NeoGeoFreak.com" target="_blank">www.NeoGeoFreak.com</a>
 

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Isn't this the part of the movie where everyone starts partying in the Ewok village?
 

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Speaking as (1) a Neo collector, (2) a 9-to-5 employee of a Municipal Court warrant division in the Las Vegas valley [who gets off on seeing criminals of any stripe getting what's coming to them], and (3) an after-hours operator of a Japanese DVD retail sales company [who despises all the Hong Kong knockoff/bootleg/pirate CDs/DVDs], this has got to be the single greatest post I've ever read, anywhere. If this post were a woman, I'd beg her to marry me and let me have her babies. Hrm. That joke probably works best when you can see the one telling it is a guy. Anyway, fantastic news, Mouse_Master -- thanks a million for posting the link!

--Chris
 

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BTW... where is Monkysmo?

He should post another "NGF Report" like the one he posted yesterday claiming that NGF have no problem... lol
 

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Dash no Chris:
Speaking as (1) a Neo collector, (2) a 9-to-5 employee of a Municipal Court warrant division in the Las Vegas valley [who gets off on seeing criminals of any stripe getting what's coming to them], and (3) an after-hours operator of a Japanese DVD retail sales company [who despises all the Hong Kong knockoff/bootleg/pirate CDs/DVDs], this has got to be the single greatest post I've ever read, anywhere. If this post were a woman, I'd beg her to marry me and let me have her babies. Hrm. That joke probably works best when you can see the one telling it is a guy. Anyway, fantastic news, Mouse_Master -- thanks a million for posting the link!

--Chris
Chris,

You can send the law firm a thank you, a bunch of us have already done it, and I've set up a thread that will make it even easier:
<a href="http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=007275;p=1#000000" target="_blank">http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=007275;p=1#000000</a>
 
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