Mark of the Wolves 2 - What do you expect?

Jon

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I've only played the emulated version in MAME, but I got some different impressions as to what may have been in Geese's will. It always seemed to me like Geese abandoned Rock and Terry Bogard ended up raising him. If the will was meant for Rock, how come Kain got it instead? Maybe because the lawyers, this is all speculative BTW, didn't know he existed. I think what Kain could not decipher, as he says in Rock's ending, is how Geese managed to cheat death all those times before. No matter what happened to Geese, he always managed to survive. How? To this day, no one has answered that question to my satisfaction.
 

PrOzErG

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Guys.... Geese was fighting in MOTW just search a little more....very easy to figure out!
 

Rain

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Originally posted by PrOzErG:
<STRONG>Guys.... Geese was fighting in MOTW just search a little more....very easy to figure out!</STRONG>

Are you suggesting that Geese is a brainwashed husk of a man who has been possessed by Kain, and serves his every whim under the name of Grant?

Hmmmm, could be.
 

Jackal

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FCL, it's the other way around. Griffon is called Tizoc in the US version.

I agree that Geese has no business whatsoever in MOTW2.

Originally posted by Fat Cat Lim:
<STRONG>On the US Version, Marco Rodriguez was called Kushnood Butt. Likewise, The Mighty Tizoc was called the Mighthy Griffon (or is it the other way around? =/ ).

Geese is dead, and should stay dead. I don't want him back or else he fucks up the current storyline.

God, I wish Blue Mary returns... <IMG SRC="smilies/drool.gif" border="0"> What the hell ever happened to her relationship with Terry?

Fat Cat Lim</STRONG>
 
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ImMature

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Hmmm let's see how the new generation of FFers is related to the classical 1,

*Terry <- himself

*Rock & Kain <- Geese

*Hokutomaru <- Andy and Mai

*Kevin Ryan <- Blue Mary (probably)

*Kim Dong Hwan & Kim Jae Hoon <- Kim Kaphwan

*Marco Rodriguez <- Ryo Sakazaki

...So me thinks we definitely need some reprsentatives for Yamazaki, Billy and Joe in MOTW2...

Oh and BTW, Hokutomaru and Tizok lame?!? C'mon they're great chars. I'd rather get rid of Takuma-gone-cheaper aka Marco Rodriguez and replace him with Takuma himself at age 60+ <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

heatblazer

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Raiden,Hwa-Jai,Billy,Geese,Duck King,Tung Fu
(enchanced to turn into Giant man when 1/2 HP
is lost,return them all at once!!!They are all cool and spiffy!!!
 

Tekyo

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I expcet this:

The son of Krauser appear and challenge Rock
Terry got again his cool cap
Ryo appear like a char.
And all the FF chars back.
 

dredgulus

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More characters (new and old). Make the end bosses a little more supernatural.
 

remukhan

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Originally posted by Rain:
<STRONG>Are you suggesting that Geese is a brainwashed husk of a man who has been possessed by Kain, and serves his every whim under the name of Grant?

Hmmmm, could be.</STRONG>


it is very cool and valid explainantion. it could be true since grant never showed his face in MOTW. he also wears similar kind of clothes. he also disappeared in thin air without a trace leaving only his clothes and mask behind.

if this is all true then it is definitely exciting. <IMG SRC="smilies/smirk.gif" border="0"> as well as cool <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0"> story.
 

Ragnarok

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I want to see the Jin Brothers. I wanna see how much they've improved since they begin the training with Tung Fu Rue and Kim Kapwham.
 

Rain

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Originally posted by remukhan:
<STRONG>
it is very cool and valid explainantion. it could be true since grant never showed his face in MOTW. he also wears similar kind of clothes. he also disappeared in thin air without a trace leaving only his clothes and mask behind.

if this is all true then it is definitely exciting. <IMG SRC="smilies/smirk.gif" border="0"> as well as cool <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0"> story.</STRONG>

And seeing as Geese would be Nightmare Geese, this explanation of him disappearing into nowhere DOES make sense.... Hey, what if Grant is Billy Kane?!!? Maybe Kain has Lilly Kane and is using her life as the way to make Billy Kane do whatever he wants!

Argh... to many Kanes/Kains... ah, I prefer the Geese theory. That actually makes sense <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Personally I think that MOTW can seriously bring KOF into the new millenium, I'm not to sure on how many people got my post from ages ago about my ideal future KOF game, but I'll post it sometime. I mean FF and AOF basically started the KOF syndrome and aws somewhat a beginning to bring it to eh reality of a slugfest. But mroe later.

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Well here's my take on how MOTW2 should come out.

Personally, the KOF NESTS story arc, isn't too bad, but I think KOF might be getting a tad old. I know that might be SNK blasphemy, but hey, good things must some to an end at some time.

Anyways, storyline. Back to the three on three fighting storyline I suppose. Just for the hell of it and KOF traditions sake.

Garou team: Terry, Rock and possibly either Kevin or Mary. It's just that maybe to stay with the story of MOTW, we should have a team where Kain and Rock are together and possbily Grant as well? But nevertheless if there was a Garou team I would think that Terry and Rock would be together and most likely Kevin since Terry and him seem to be friends. I would like to keep the lineup as fresh as possible. So no Mary fellas.

Shiranui team: Possibly one of the only vets I might allow to return, (in my fantasy MOTW:KOF) Andy, Hokotomaru and his sister or else Mai. I would perfer the sister just to keep it fresh and all.

AOF team: Butt, Ryo and possibly the Kid that Butt ran away with in his ending. Or else Yuri. Either way, i would perfer the kid or someone else, once again to keep it fresh.

Korea team: Absolute no brainer, but the question would be how to implement Jhun, if one wants to? Would he be in charge of Choi and Chang?

Karate team: Harou and Gato, plus another. it would be interesting to see maybe the father or mother join in? Just to see the family dynamics and such.

Geese team: Rock (ok might as well do it) Kain and Grant. Just to make it weird. Plus it would go for some good interaction.

Now the biggie, return of the Kusanagi and the Yagami. But with a twist. Have Kyo dead! Yes! It would totally further the story, and have Iori killed him. Anyways the team might look like this.

Kusanagi team: Shingo! Yes, let's just say after Kyo was dead, Shingo swore to avenge him and trained extra hard. Still does not have the flames but he has.....Kyo's two children. Now I would really love to see a female and a male Kusanagi. I would really would like to see what SNK can do with new guys especially a female. I dunno.

Yagami team: Iori of course, since he was the only one who survived. But would we consider Freeman? I really wouldn't but hey, it would be nice. But kinda nicer to have two students of Iori like his offspring or whatever. Just some little Iori's running about.

Lastly, for those who cannot live without Kyo, make him a secret character.

Any suggestions.

Porridge Boy
 
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About the "Geese as Grant" scenario:

I'm starting to think it's possible. Ever notice how, right before your fight with Kain, he says that Grant's power was the "real thing"? That statement of his certainly opened my eyes...

Physically, he's kinda similar to Geese, who was always a little bigger than Terry. If anything, Grant looks a little bigger than Geese, but it's not too much of a stretch.
 

RevQuixo

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Saggy Mai.

Let's see how her bounce held up <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

outsider

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Grant as Geese? I wouldnt want it, Geese is great as just being Geese! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Yeah...I don't really want it to happen, either. Grant's too cool to just turn out as another old character IMO. Still, it's fun to speculate:P

Also, am I the only one who thought Grant came off as being more powerful than Kain? Just IMO, of course...
 

John

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Originally posted by Tekyo:
<STRONG>I expcet this:

The son of Krauser appear and challenge Rock
Terry got again his cool cap
Ryo appear like a char.
And all the FF chars back.</STRONG>

I actually had an idea for Krauser's daughter, Sofia Krauser. Mary found her as a child weeping over her father's corpse and raised her as though she were her own daughter, even teaching her some of her moves.

Moves:
Blitz Ball
Leg Tomahawk -> M. Spider
Slide -> M. Clutch
M.Snatcher -> Vertical Arrow
M. Dodge -> Backdrop
|-> M. Crusher (like the Ace Crusher/Twist of Fate
Upper Counter -> Phoenix Flattener

Supers:
Mary Dynamite Swing
Kaiser Wave
(secret) Gigatech Cyclone

Intros against: Rock, Kain, Terry, Kevin?, the Jins (maybe they could be dressed in their uniforms from their endings in RB2; Chonrei in a white shirt and green (1p)/red (2p) pants and Chonshu in a Taekwondo outfit (of course Chonshu would have intros against the Kim brothers; why do you ask? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">)
 

Reno Garcia

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Geese back?, the night of the undead......., I heard better returns that it, If Geese was alive, Rock wouldn´t stay with Terry, one true with to the temple, the Mark of Wolves history begins in the case that Geese is dead a long 10 years until Real Bout or 97/98 kof with the story line of KOF ....:.
I expect a Capoera student of Bob Wilson, one Joe´s student, more thugs of the gang of Geese Howard who are alive,( not Yamazaki, Billy and perphaps Mr.Big).
¿character with Yamazaki style?
One wrestling man more faster that Tyzoc/Griffon Mask and........
Grant........¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡, is better bosss character and more playable, is fun beat all the challegers with his tecnics and mighty power and his beautiful and destructive DMS
Last thing..........., I didn`t expect the return of Kof characters in MOTW 2, these characters had his serie, (who the N.E.S.T.S story was long to finish and had more suprises, so K is long to discovered all the organization of N.E.S.T.S and beat his hidden fighters, only know the renegade Ron of Clan-Hi and the Kula´s team, there are many fighters who have join the N.E.S.T.S society.

<IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
 

HagureMetal

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Isn't Geese dead in Real Bout one...???
I thought, Geese in Real Bout special is only a nightmare...
and in Real Bout 2, its just an illusion from the scroll...
not sure though

kj

[ June 17, 2001: Message edited by: KJ Mylord ]
 

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Mary!
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I kinda like the idea of the original 3 in the game, Terry, Andy, and Joe making a reunion. Otherwise have them kill of Joe or something, some kind of closure (not that i hate joe or anything) because its better than just letting the character fade into nothiness after sequels. Although the idea of an older Andy whos skill level has matched Terry is interesting, he should sound more relaxed and have the confidence of a master, unlike his over exaggerated kof self. Personally i don't like that annoying kid as his disciple.
As for other characters, I think Marco should stay as he is representing AOF/Kyokugenryu, either that or an older Yuri.
The Cop guy isn't too interesting. Jenet is cute, but dunno if she deserves to be in a sequel as she isn't too revelant to the story.
Gato/sister
eh didn't really have all that good of impression. Sister should be a combination of their 2 styles. (choosing her to return because if she grows her character could change, rather than a whole new character)
Tizoc .. eh need a grappler.. on second though either he or Kevin Ryan goes.
(of course my prefered grappler player would be Mary)
Freeman is pretty cool needs more moves.
Kim sons are cool, they should definately stay.

Geese is dead, please stay dead.
It would be soooo cheesy/lame if he's escaped death again, i'm sorry but getting knocked off the same tower twice really deserves death. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
 
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