Magician Lord AES

[Xian Xi]

Wouldn't it be possible to replace the P1 ROM to change a Magician Lord cart to "Set 2"?

Yes, or double the image and use a switch so you can use either version.

 

[Shito]

This has been debated for a long time on the topic of "two different romset AES releases".

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showt...-(AES)-cart-thread-now-starting-with-BIG-news

Since then, I've been further researching about this even with some Japanese collectors/fan.

As you know, Magician Lord got three different AES releases in Japan:

1) Original plastic box *rental* version - 04/26/90
2) Carton box version - 07/01/91
3) Plastic reprint *consumer* version - ??/??/??

Supposedly, only AES release 1) should be the original no-intro, 6 energy tabs, re-spawn @ fixed points.

AES release 2) and 3) should be the 'revised' version: intro, just 4 energy tabs, but instant re-spawn with some invincibility time.

I really don't know about the MVS. Some says those are just different modes triggered via dip-switch setting, also differently *fixed* in different AES cart production runs, but I seriously doubt about it. Seems more like a P-rom revision scenario to me.

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

The two Magician Lord AES carts I've owned were the checkpoint versions and had US cart labels placed over the original JP labels.

 

[Shito]

Most likely a JPN first run re-stickered to be marketed overseas. Something SNK did quite a bit in the the NeoGeo early days. ^^

 

[Kid Panda]

Yea mine was re-stickered.

 

[SNKorSWM]

Ditto here, as well as NAM-1975.

 

[Bar81]

Ditto here, as well as NAM-1975.

Very common with Nam MVS as well.

 

[HeavyMachineGoob]

My US uncensored NAM-1975 AES has also been re-labeled with a US one.

 

[Edmond Dantes]

As you know, Magician Lord got three different AES releases in Japan:

1) Original plastic box *rental* version - 04/26/90
2) Carton box version - 07/01/91
3) Plastic reprint *consumer* version - ??/??/??

Supposedly, only AES release 1) should be the original no-intro, 6 energy tabs, re-spawn @ fixed points.

AES release 2) and 3) should be the 'revised' version: intro, just 4 energy tabs, but instant re-spawn with some invincibility time.

Huh. The US release I have is somewhere in the middle-- it has the intro, but I think 6 tabs and you respawn at checkpoints.

 

[Official Ninja]

Huh. The US release I have is somewhere in the middle-- it has the intro, but I think 6 tabs and you respawn at checkpoints.

I think it should be that if you have an intro you re-spawn at check points.
No intro is re-spawn where you died...

That is what I see different between to two mame rom versions.

My US version (and three others I've owned) is the Intro/check point version.

 

[chimera]

Is their a MVS version of magician lord that has the "Intro" and "Check point respawns"?

Or was the "Intro" and "Check point respawns" only on the AES versions?

I have both versions, The "Intro" version on AES and the "No Intro" one on MVS.

I was just wondering if anyone could clarify if there was a "Intro" version for the MVS as i prefer the harder "Check point respawns" of the AES version.

 

[Pope Sazae]

Is their a MVS version of magician lord that has the "Intro" and "Check point respawns"?

Or was the "Intro" and "Check point respawns" only on the AES versions?

I have both versions, The "Intro" version on AES and the "No Intro" one on MVS.

I was just wondering if anyone could clarify if there was a "Intro" version for the MVS as i prefer the harder "Check point respawns" of the AES version.

What if you set your MVS to console mode? I wonder if that will get the intro to show up. I would test but I no longer have it on MVS and only on AES

 

[chimera]

What if you set your MVS to console mode? I wonder if that will get the intro to show up. I would test but I no longer have it on MVS and only on AES

Hey Pope Sazae. I just tried your suggestion and it didn't work.

From what I gathered there are two versions. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The first version: crc check - BD0A492D
The first version has 4 health bars, No intro, and Instant Re-spawning. AND from what I have gathered is only on MVS Carts????

The second version: crc checck -599043C5
The second version has 6 health bars, has an Intro, and has a Check Point Re-Spawning system. AND from what I have gathered is only on AES carts????


I hope there is an "Intro" version for the MVS cause to be honest I don't like re-spawning right were I died.
Thats like re-spawning right were you died on Super Mario World (that doesn't happen but it would feel wrong and suck is my point) lol.

Edit: also, note I'm saying "first and second version" but I actually don't know what version came before or after. Just saying, I don't want to get more info mixed up...

 

[SNKorSWM]

You can use the Unibios to set either console or arcade mode. If the cart has the intro, it will play in either mode.