Local Elections - VA completely blue now; Kentucky flips on gov; Mississippi still redneck

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
(CNN)Democrats were celebrating Tuesday night, while President Donald Trump and Republicans were left to explain why they were behind in one of the reddest states in the nation.

In Kentucky, Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear was poised to defeat Republican Gov. Matt Bevin, holding onto a 0.4-percentage-point lead with all precincts reporting even as Bevin said he would not concede. Trump had tried to bolster Bevin, holding a rally with him Monday night in Kentucky and telling the state's GOP voters that the race's outcome would be seen as a reflection on him.
If Beshear hangs on, he has said he would ease Medicaid access, overhaul the state's education leadership and restore the voting rights of former felons who have done their time.

In Virginia, Democrats won majorities in both the House and Senate, giving the party full control of the state's government and solidifying what had once been a swing state as a stronghold for the party. Their wins open the door for new gun control laws, an increased minimum wage and other progressive measures that Republicans had previously blocked.

And in Mississippi, Republicans had held onto the governor's office, beating back a veteran Democrat's bid for another potential election-night stunner. The GOP's win there means the state is likely to continue pursuing tax cuts and opposing an expansion of Medicaid.
Here are three takeaways from Tuesday's elections:

Kentucky governor's race spells trouble for Republicans

It's true that Bevin was a troubled candidate. He worked to roll back Kentucky's Medicaid expansion. His brash style was on display when he accused protesting teachers of being "selfish" and having a "thug mentality" when they objected to his efforts to slash their pensions. Polls showed he was among the nation's least popular governors.

But make no mistake: National Republicans were all-in on Bevin.
Trump spent Monday night rallying with Bevin in Kentucky. Vice President Mike Pence last week went on a bus tour with the first-term governor. And the Republican Governors Association spent millions of dollars attempting to bolster him on the airwaves.

Republicans sought to explain away Tuesday's result -- trailing in the governor's race in a state Trump won by 30 percentage points -- by pointing to their victories in five down-ballot statewide races and throwing Bevin under the bus.
"The President just about dragged Gov. Matt Bevin across the finish line, helping him run stronger than expected in what turned into a very close race at the end," Trump 2020 campaign manager Brad Parscale said in a statement.
But the causes for criticism of Bevin -- his combative personality, penchant for controversy and pursuit of controversial policies -- could also apply to Trump.

And Trump himself, just a night earlier, had said the outcome of Bevin's reelection bid would be a reflection on him.
"If you lose, they're going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the world. This was the greatest. You can't let that happen to me," he told Bevin at their rally.

That the GOP trails in the governor's race in a state Trump won by 30 percentage points is a bad sign for the party across the board. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, the most powerful Kentuckian in politics and a veteran of tough elections, is on the ballot next year. And while Tuesday's results don't necessarily forecast trouble for McConnell, they do likely mean Amy McGrath, a leading Democratic challenger, will likely see a fundraising boon.

If Beshear is ultimately certified the winner, he has said he would pursue an agenda of making Medicaid more accessible -- restoring the policies of his father, popular former Gov. Steve Beshear, who expanded the program before leaving office four years ago. He has also said he would replace Bevin's state board of education and allowing 140,000 former felons who have served their time to vote.
A Democratic trifecta in Virginia

Democrats cemented a new reality in Virginia on Tuesday: For decades a Republican stronghold, and then a swing state, the commonwealth is now controlled by Democrats.

The party won majorities in Virginia's House and Senate, gaining full control of the state government for the first time in two decades.
The victories put Gov. Ralph Northam and Democrats in the legislature in position to pursue a progressive agenda -- including gun control measures, which a majority of Republicans had blocked, and a higher minimum wage.
With the "trifecta" of the House, Senate and governor's office, Democrats will also control the redistricting process after the 2020 Census, drawing the new maps for congressional and state legislative districts.

That was a key focus for the party in the wake of state-level losses during former President Barack Obama's administration. Each trifecta represents a foothold that can be used to bolster the party's ranks in Congress and to cement their status as the majority party in statehouses for another decade.
Tuesday's results were a continuation of the years-long collapse of the GOP in what until recently had been a swing state. Virginia voted for George W. Bush in the 2004 presidential election and elected Republican Bob McDonnell governor in 2009, but has backed Democratic presidential and gubernatorial candidates since those elections.

The victories completed a Democratic comeback in the state legislature that began in 2017, when Democrats made major gains in the legislature, largely through suburban districts, and Northam won handily in an early sign of backlash over Trump's presidency.
That election left the GOP with a 51-49 House majority and a 21-19 advantage in the Senate, and Democrats immediately began targeting legislative seats in hopes of winning control this year.

But that comeback was threatened this year when Northam was accused of appearing in a yearbook photo dressed in blackface, and Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax was accused of sexually assaulting two women.

GOP wins in Mississippi
The best news of the night for Republicans came in Mississippi, where they won the race to replace outgoing Gov. Phil Bryant.
The governor's race in such a solidly red state would ordinarily be no cause for suspense.
But Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves faced a serious challenge from Democratic Attorney General Jim Hood, a moderate candidate who had already won statewide four times.

The race was in part a referendum on expanding Medicaid: Reeves, an anti-spending conservative, said he would continue the state's rejection of an expansion under Obamacare, while Hood said he would expand Medicaid to cover an additional 100,000 people.
Reeves was also bolstered by campaign appearance from Trump, his son Donald Trump Jr. and Pence.
Trump congratulated Reeves Tuesday night.

"Our big Rally on Friday night moved the numbers from a tie to a big WIN. Great reaction under pressure Tate," Trump tweeted.

The election in VA in particular showed that voters by and large aren't happy with the current republican crop. Hopefully this encourages the GOP to support better, kinder, less agenda focused candidates, whose focus is instead to serve all of the people; yes, all of them. Even the ones you don't like.
 

Xavier

Orochi's Acolyte
20 Year Member
In my city the mayor a Democrat won a fourth term.

He's allright, the city seems by and large better since he's been in charge. He beat out a dude who seemed kinda douchey with no platform.

There weren't any initiatives on my ballot.

In the city council race Democrats took at least half the six seats gaining an additional 2-3.

I'm glad because a couple years ago the Republicans in the council screwed over the city and the mayor.

Indiana is an extreme red state. Obama did carry it in '08 and surprisingly Sanders beat out the establishment candidate in the last primary. Typically though the state can usually be one of the first to be called out in a race for Republicans.

Democrats are really on the right but are usually neutral on unions and pro agriculture. The last Democrat senator Joe Donnelly was pro-life and voted for a bunch of Trump backed bills. Didn't help him.

Two take aways for me:

1: The city voted across party lines making me think they made an informed decision on local events.

2: Even though Democrats and Independents make up a majority of the country they usually don't turn out for these midterm and local elections, they are now clearly mobilized.
 

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
In my city the mayor a Democrat won a fourth term.

He's allright, the city seems by and large better since he's been in charge. He beat out a dude who seemed kinda douchey with no platform.

There weren't any initiatives on my ballot.

In the city council race Democrats took at least half the six seats gaining an additional 2-3.

I'm glad because a couple years ago the Republicans in the council screwed over the city and the mayor.

Indiana is an extreme red state. Obama did carry it in '08 and surprisingly Sanders beat out the establishment candidate in the last primary. Typically though the state can usually be one of the first to be called out in a race for Republicans.

Democrats are really on the right but are usually neutral on unions and pro agriculture. The last Democrat senator Joe Donnelly was pro-life and voted for a bunch of Trump backed bills. Didn't help him.

Two take aways for me:

1: The city voted across party lines making me think they made an informed decision on local events.

2: Even though Democrats and Independents make up a majority of the country they usually don't turn out for these midterm and local elections, they are now clearly mobilized.

Parks and Rec made Indiana look a lot better than that. Sounds like you guys have a lot of Council-member Jamms.
 

Xavier

Orochi's Acolyte
20 Year Member
Parks and Rec made Indiana look a lot better than that. Sounds like you guys have a lot of Council-member Jamms.

Well it's a television show about a made up city.

You can look at Vice President Pence and see what a product of the environment looks like. Before him VP Quayle was from Indiana.

Evan Bayh was on the VP short list for Obama. I like him but most members of his party despise him as a corporateist Democrat.

I live in a midsized town of about 250,000 in the city proper. Something like #75 of Americas largest towns. In order for the city to get proper state and federal funding it needs to grow.

By and large the city sucks. Some people like some areas better than others but pretty much if you live in it you're going to be a victim of crime. If you want to be totally safe you should live out in the middle of nowhere and not let anybody know where you live and you can commute several hours a day to the city to work.

So nobody likes living in the city, it was shrinking but now it's growing modestly but it will never reach first class city status at this rate. So the plan has been to incorporate and annex nearby townships.

A nearby town was connected to the grid sewer, electrical, trash and water etc. Tens of millions of dollars were spent in the process and 85% of them signed waivers stating they were going to incorporate into the main city. When everything was finished and it was time iron out the small details some people complained that they couldn't burn trash in their yard and questioned how the school busing program was going to work. The city council said "You know what don't worry about it" and let them off the hook.

I find the whole thing ironic. Most of them are rural don't tread on me types that run around screaming about "Mah tax dollars!' and they stole other people taxes monies to modernize their own lives.
 

FAT$TACKS

Not Average Joe., Not Average Homeowner., Not Aver
15 Year Member
To a lot of us here in KY it wasn't a shock that Bevin lost.

The guy was a giant piece of shit.

One of the things that bit him in the ass was he pissed off the Trump voters. I know several die hard Republicans who went to vote but either didn't vote for governor or voted against him.

Also, saying you're pro life and then supporting and channeling money to Pro Choice candidates, didn't sit well with that crowd either.

Breaking the law on camera and bragging about being able to get away with it because of being the Governor.

Telling the voters that their children are weak because school was closed for sub zero temps.

Giving one of your friends a state position and then a pay that is the highest in the nation for that position, but telling people we need to cut spending.

Scheduling town halls about the teacher's pensions during school hours, then when the schools close for that day so the teachers can go, pulling out and canceling the town hall meetings.

I could write a list of bullshit this guy has pulled all day.

I don't feel his loss is any reflection on the national state of things or people's support for Trump.

He lost because he said one thing, did another, and told everyone to go fuck themselves, because he was going to do whatever the hell he wanted. He has been trying to get himself a cabinet position with Trump from day one.

So the ass clown got voted out.
 

Xavier

Orochi's Acolyte
20 Year Member
I don't feel his loss is any reflection on the national state of things or people's support for Trump.

Who ever said it had anything to do with peoples support of Trump?
If they did they're an idiot.

For the last four and a half years he's had the support of at least 25% of the population no matter what he says or does and always will. That 25% comes from about 65% of people who identify as Republican.

I said Democrats and independents are now mobilized. They took the house in the midterms (there were only a few seats available in the congress and Koch types spent billions to make sure they didn't change) Typically the biggest block that votes in these midterms and local elections are old white guys with nothing better to do. The general mass of the population usually only comes out for the general election to vote for the president.

No I'm not even sure national sentiment has shifted at all.

Gallup. As of September 2019, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrat, 29% identified as Republican, and 38% as Independent.

On social issues I'm sure a large percent of that 38% would vote Democrat and over the last 15 years the GOP has swung more and more exclusionary.

I guarantee you any Republican strategist with a brain understands they'll never win another election without the electoral college, gerrymandering, voter suppression, fraud and interference from bad actors and foreign powers.
 

FAT$TACKS

Not Average Joe., Not Average Homeowner., Not Aver
15 Year Member
Who?

A shit tonne of tv talking heads and news outlets.

I was mentioning it due to it having been in the news. Not due to anything anyone here had mentioned.
 

Xavier

Orochi's Acolyte
20 Year Member
I apologize, it appears that I took your response as directed to me thats incorrect and conceited.

Now if those talking heads were to say that Trump has pissed off a bloc of the public and has made sure that they are more likely to be active in the democratic process that might be valid.
 

FAT$TACKS

Not Average Joe., Not Average Homeowner., Not Aver
15 Year Member
No worries. It didn't come off bad.
I just though I wasn't being clear what I was on about.

Anyhow, I'm home now so I'll give a better response.

So on Monday, Trump came and did a rally for Bevin.
He made a big deal about it and had said something to the effect of if Bevin wins, the media won't make anything of it but if he looses they will tie that to Trump. Also, I assume jokingly told Bevin not to embarrass him.

So Bevin goes down and I see a bunch of shit in the media where they are talking about how Bevin's performance in the suburbs where trump scored lots of votes was weak, and were tying that to people shifting away from supporting Trump, in that his rally for a candidate, he doesn't have enough clout with the people to get someone automatically elected. It's kind of a false narrative that is being pushed on the national level.

Bevin was the only republican on the ballot to loose. Dems didn't come out in force and vote him out, they helped vote him out for sure, but weren't what did it. If they came out that strong then why didn't they vote that strong for every other dem on the ticket? Who knows.. but anyhow.

I personally think Trump didn't really come for Bevin as much as he did to do some self promotion. The base hardcore voters are going to vote red no matter what. I've met countless people like that, but a lot of people who voted Trump in 16 weren't the hardcore base. I again know several people who voted for him and won't again. They feel like they got sold a bill of goods. Also, a lot of the people I know who voted for him normally lean Democrat.

KY has had like only 4 republicans elected to Governor in the last 50 years. The Dems elected in the state tend to be rather socially conservative and more fiscally liberal. Bevin came in as a Republican, but ran things more like a Corporate Libertarian and pissed off the base.

I agree, that if the Republican party doesn't do some serious soul searching and change how they are, then their days are soon numbered. They seem to me like a dying party trying to grab onto anything they can, power, money, whatever, before the ship sinks. Mind you I don't think the other party is all that much better in some ways.
 

norton9478

So Many Posts
No Time
For Games.
20 Year Member
Being that Bevin is a supreme Douchebag, it will always be hard to say how much of his loss had to do with him and national sentiment towards trump.

To be fair, Bevin is the candidate that nationalized the election (which makes no sense if you are running for governor) and pinned himself to trump .

Maybe without trump, he does a few points better. Maybe he does a few points worse.

Kansas has an even worse Republican governor and he got reelected.

But yes, republicans are in trouble in the suburbs.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pete-king-retiring-gop-congress_n_5dc9510fe4b0fcfb7f69d077

But Kentucky is kentucky. Staunchly republican, but will occasionally elect a democrat. And they love socialism so long as you don't call it socialism.
Maybe Andy Barr loses his seat next year.
 
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LoneSage

A Broken Man
20 Year Member
wasabi, as a lawyer, how do you feel about Morrissey? I want to know why exactly he got disbarred but can't find anything.
 

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
Disbarments are rare. If an attorney loses his license for violating rules, it is probably so strong that judges cannot simply give a second chance. In Morrissey’s case, he had received a second chance, and then blew it by not keeping a low profile after regaining his license, and continuing his unorthodox practice. Also, VA age of consent is 18, and he fucked his 17 year old receptionist, then marrying her, and she’s like 21 now, so I guess finally she can drink. Moreover, the part that stood out most for me is that Morrissey entered an Alford Plea. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alford_plea Which is like saying “I know it’s a crime, but it shouldn’t be” about sex with a minor.
 

@M

Vanessa's Drinking Buddy,
20 Year Member
Wasn't really any point in voting in my local election this year, but, I did anyway. There were two open city council seats, one guy on the ballot, another woman as a write-in (whom I wrote in), so, they were both pretty much guaranteed to get the positions no matter what, due to a complete lack of competition. The poll location was absolutely dead, I was the only one there, other than the election workers, and I was only voter #4 for the entire day. There were also some board of review seats (the group people go to when they want to bitch about local taxes) open, but, nobody was even running for those. Sometimes I consider writing in friends/family members names as a joke, just to fuck with them, when that happens, but, unless you actually filed for the position, I don't think those write-ins would count.
 
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