(little off topic...) Dreamcast modification?

[matsukaze]

Sorry, this is a bit off-topic. It's just that I respect the opinions of most people on this board.

We all know that Mr. Kurtz is one of the best Neo techs in the world. What about the Dreamcast? Who would you recommend going to for Dreamcast mods? Which chip is best?

Thanks,

Matsukaze

 

[Arakon]

there's only one chip around anymore, and that has 4 wires.. easy to do.
it plays all imports.

 

[Rade K]

www.ncsx.com sells them.

 

[matsukaze]

I think I've seen other chips on foreign websites. Maybe these are older chips? I seem to recall that some of them played copied disks (not that I'd ever use that feature). I've gotten the impression that they may be inferior chips. Anyone know anything about them? Is the chip at NCS really the best?

 

[Arakon]

there is no need for any kind of chip for copies. if anyone tried to sell one for that purpose, it was a scam.

 

[Neo Skier]

Just get a DC-X, never had a problem with it.

 

[chimpmeister]

Originally posted by matsukaze:
<STRONG>Sorry, this is a bit off-topic. It's just that I respect the opinions of most people on this board.

We all know that Mr. Kurtz is one of the best Neo techs in the world. What about the Dreamcast? Who would you recommend going to for Dreamcast mods? Which chip is best?

Thanks,

Matsukaze</STRONG>

I had a really good suggestion that would work out well for you. However, I think you're just looking to play burned games, so I won't bother . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

 

[NeoGML]

Chimpmeister, what in god's name is your problem?

jesus, is EVERYONE except the Neo.com rom elitists stupid bootleg lamers?

i mean, fuckin hell man, when people get such unfriendly comments like this to earnest, unstupid questions like this one, it really really deters them from staying in this BS filled shithole any longer than they had already planned.

 

[chimpmeister]

Originally posted by NeoGML:
<STRONG>Chimpmeister, what in god's name is your problem?

jesus, is EVERYONE except the Neo.com rom elitists stupid bootleg lamers?

i mean, fuckin hell man, when people get such unfriendly comments like this to earnest, unstupid questions like this one, it really really deters them from staying in this BS filled shithole any longer than they had already planned.</STRONG>

NeoGML, some on. Instead of attacking me, think about it.

he wrote:

I think I've seen other chips on foreign websites. Maybe these are older chips? I seem to recall that some of them played copied disks (not that I'd ever use that feature). I've gotten the impression that they may be inferior chips. Anyone know anything about them? Is the chip at NCS really the best?

DC imports can be played with a free boot disc. Why would this person ask about a "mod chip" unless he felt it was needed for "burns". Seriously, can you answer that?

No, you can't. If this FUCKING MORON wants to play imports, he can use the FUCKING BOOT DISC and thats the END of the story, OK? <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

[ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: chimpmeister ]

 

[Viewpoint]

Originally posted by chimpmeister:
<STRONG> DC imports can be played with a free boot disc. Why would this person ask about a "mod chip" unless he felt it was needed for "burns". Seriously, can you answer that?
</STRONG>

Actually I can somewhat. There are certain Dreamcast games that I own personally that will not run with the 'Utopia' Boot disc or in some cases actually messes with the game.

Perfect example being Phantasy Star Online Version 2. If I try to boot the game with a 'Utopia' Boot disc the game will run but I can no longer target anything or do any support/healing techs to other party members.
<IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

Also in regards to playing burned games Bryce you don't even need a Modded Dreamcast anymore to play burned games due to a lot of hacks at some DC ISO sites that actually created Self-booting CDRs. One of the 1st ones I saw was a burn of Capcom Vs SNK 2 running from either a U.S. or Japanese Dreamcast with no mod chip in either.

I was told that self-booting ISO files have been around for almost as long as the boot discs.

The only real reason you would need a Mod chip is to a)avoid certain problems that the Boot discs have with some games & B)play Japanese Dreamcast import games due to them not having these hacked Self-booting ISO files that DC burns have.

Other than that I can see the reason to have a DC modded for legit games. Getting DC ISO burns is just too stupid easy these days and seeing as almost all of them are self-booting the point of a mod chip would be worthless.... <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

 

[Arakon]

uh.. wtf?

I have modded every single DC I got. why? cause swapping sucks. it really fucking annoys me. I want to pop in my import and play the game, not play DJ.

 

[marvelguy68]

only reason one mods a dc is to play imports. so chill out, not everyone is a bootlegger. and yes, ive got a few friends in the pirating scope of things, and no boot disk is required. just and older dc, newer ones wont play em.

 

[Alchemy]

Well, I've got 60 games for Dreamcast.
12 of them are original, but all the others are self-bootables copies. So, I don't need Utopia any longer, nor any "mod-chip" as PS2.
Why I have pirate games? ooh, I am a student and I don't have enough income.

 

[matsukaze]

This is pretty sad. Member #12?

On Dec. 8, Chimpmeister wrote:
>DC imports can be played with a free boot disc. Why would this >person ask about a "mod chip"

BECAUSE NEARLY *EVERY* SOURCE UP TO THIS POINT HAS RECOMENDED NCSX'S MOD CHIP TO PLAY IMPORT GAMES.

Before you call someone a "FUCKING MORON," you should do a little research. Look at any previous post I've made here. Notice anything? Why would a software pirate be so vehemently anti-NGF? Why would I INSIST on non-freaked carts? I wonder if you've even heard of the original official NGML. Ever heard of lurking?Your 'unscrupulous newbie' stereotyping is... a little off. Ask Shawn about 'Matsukaze' some time.

My hardcore status is more recent, as far as the Dreamcast is concerned. However, I HAVE done significant research into playing imports on the Dreamcast. Like everyone says, moding to play copies is POINTLESS. I said I want the BEST chip, not the SLEAZIEST. This thread is the first place I have ever seen a 'free boot disc' mentioned. I have no idea what you're talking about. I would have been very happy to learn about it, and any legitimate mods. How, exactly, would this 'help' a pirate? What's the logic?

I recommend you take care in who you SLANDER. You never know who's on the other end. MORE than an apology is in order...

[ December 09, 2001: Message edited by: matsukaze ]

 

[NeoGML]

Chimp, i was under the impression that all boots played without a boot disc, cause i know people who have them and they say you don't need a bootdisc.

well whatever, happy gaming to all.

 

[matsukaze]

Hey all,

Can anyone tell me about the free boot disc, or any other legit mods?


Chimpmeister,

Now you've got nothing to say? You wasted no time trying to defame me. You really think it's ok to throw out baseless accusations whenever you want to? How would you like if someone started spreading 'assumptions' about you?

Matsukaze

 

[eggplant_casserole]

OK, chimp needs answering first...

One reason eh? How about this? ALL dreamcast's made after October 2000 WON'T LOAD THE BOOT DISC (or copied games). There, good enough?

OK... matsukaze...

The chip only allows you to run imports. Other than having an ultra new machine, its a waste of time.

Boot discs...

1. Action Replay (GameShark in US)
2. Other manufactured import boot discs.
3. Utopia boot disc (small download, needs CD Writer)

OK, now I wanna say something about copying games.

In the days of the Neo CD, writers and CD-Rs were very expensive. Not many people had one. Therefore there was no copy protection.

Unfortunately, a LOT of people nowadays disrespect the time and effort put into video games, and object to the prices they go for. Sure, there has been arguement that they make too much profit, but its not the point. If you don't wanna pay full price, buy second hand.

As for the "I'm a poor student" arguement... it doesn't wash. You're a student. You don't NEED video games. You can live without them. If not, save up. Get a job - weekend job, paper round - whatever. Stop spending money on beer (if you're of that age), cigarettes etc. which are more hazadous to your health than video games <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> And go out and BUY THE DAMN THINGS.

No excuses. You're breaking the law. How would you feel if someone were to steal something from you? Its effectively the same thing. Pirace forces prices UP as it isn't supporting developers and they need the money to put into the projects.

 

[matsukaze]

Thanks eggplant_casserole. Is it possible to use boot discs like the CD-X and Gameshark with a really new Dreamcast?

Wow. The more I hear, the harder it is to believe Chimpmeister was so harsh. Basically, he came down on me because he didn't know enough about the subject.

Matsukaze

 

[Robert]

Every people I know who bought a chip at ncsx have no problem and they can run what they want on their dreamcast.

 

[eggplant_casserole]

As far as I know, the new ones don't read CD-Rs at all. This may not be the same for imports, using an original disk like Action Replay, I'm not sure.

I don't know if the chip gets around it, but it does NOT play backups.

 

[jbeedham]

Hey I have heard the newest dreamcast won't run MIL-CD's. I am not sure what type of CD's that covers but I hope it doesn't prevent the boot discs from working.

I've noticed the video output on my dreamcast sucks in comparison to my Neo Geo and Xbox. Is there anyone that can do an S-Video mod for it so I can use high quality video cables on it? I would also like the Mod Chip put in if someone would be willing to do an S-Video mod.

 

[JHendrix]

Ok, lets just get things straight.

DC Boot Disc: Boots all Import and Bootleg Games.

DC Mod Chip: Boots ALL imports and Bootleg Games.

Why: All these things do is bypass the copy check on the system bootup, which allows playing imports, but also allows bootlegs to be played. Most bootlegs don't need a mod chip or a boot disc, they can boot all by themselves due to the DC's weak protection (they really didn't think the GD-ROM format would be cracked). So it was very easy to start pirating once the initial crack was made.

So it doesn't matter if you have a boot disc or a MOD chip, ethier one will play a import or a bootleg.

AND CHIMP, Did it ever occur to you that some people (in fact most of them) do not want to have to sit there and swap the discs out? That they just might want to put any game in and play? Unlike what some people say I think you do bring a lot to the board, but this thread is not a good example of that.

Peace

JHendrix

 

[Arakon]

wrong.
the modchip doesn't do anything AT ALL about the booting of bootlegs.
bootlegs on dc will boot without any modification at all. no discs, no chips, no voodoo magic.
in fact, dc bootlegs aren't even games for the dreamcast.. it believes it's a MIL cd (a pretty much japan only audio/movie/karaoke format) and boots it.

@jbeedham
why do any mods if you can simply walk into any store with DC stuff and buy a dc s-video cable for a few bucks?

[ December 25, 2001: Message edited by: Arakon ]

 

[JHendrix]

New systems won't boot the bootlegs. So the chip lets you boot them. And not all bootlegs are self booting (that's a lotta boots). So as far as I know there are some mod chips out there that will let you play bootleg games. You just can't find them at NCSX.com you need to go to "other" places to get them.

Peace

JHendrix

 

[Arakon]

still incorrect. there simply are no modchips that have any influence on bootlegs.
the newer DCs can still be tricked into booting any cd by just burning them slightly different. and non-selfbooting discs will run with the utopia cd, but not with a modchip either.