Lets talk about "Swatting" and the loss of personal freedom in America

[Ninjainspandex]

 

[ki_atsushi]

Didn't know Caleb Hart was such an aspie. LMAO

 

[smokehouse]

As usual...there some serious stupidity and some good points in this thread.

We deserve what we're getting...all of it. Eventually, things will collapse (like they always do) and the smart ones will last. Then people will become complacent and dumb once again until the system collapses on itself.

Police don't get to think anymore. Stupid, scared people vote for moron politicians. When some crazy or idiot does something scary, the scared morons bitch at politicians, politicians pass idiotic (and often illegal) laws that force police to do stupid shit like this automatically with no questions asked.....



And then the stupid, scared people exploit those laws in the name of a prank. Full circle.


We deserve this, we deserve this for disconnecting ourselves from reality, we deserve this for allowing ourselves to become stupid. So many people are 100% disconnected from reality anymore and its sad.


It just sucks that those not part of the idiot masses have to suffer the same fate as everyone else...

 

[FAT$TACKS]

This kind of thing is rather unnerving. I would not be surprised if something like this would end up with people getting killed.

With police thinking they are going into a danger area and people who could be well armed and thinking they are being home invaded, I could see it getting very ugly. There have already been a few episodes where law enforcement has been killed using no knock entry and such, and several more than that where people in their homes who were killed.

It's bad enough when you just answer the door with a video game controller in your hand you get killed, if anyone remembers that from a while back. I really think the people doing this are committing acts of terrorism and should be treated as such.

 

[hyper]

yea.. since when does making false police reports become an internet meme

broadband generation minds at work.

 

[psychobear85]

 

[cannonball]

I really think the people doing this are committing acts of terrorism and should be treated as such.

I agree. It's pretty disturbing how this generation of youth think they can get away with shit like this. I hope the people making these calls get locked up for a long time.

 

[ReplicaX]

Do ppl even watch C-Span anymore with all these hacks?

 

[Ninjainspandex]

I actually had a close call with being swatted back a few months ago, before I knew it was a real serious thing. I was playing Cod ghosts with a friend and we were completely destroying the other team, apparently a member on the other team really didn't like this and continued to shit talk me, he claimed he was a famous hacker/swatter named Clerke and he was tracking my IP address to find out where we live and was going to call the police saying we just murdered our family and have them send in a swat team or hack our bank accounts and leave us broke. I thought he was just some asshole talking shit, but he sounded dead serious it gave me goosebumps. He actually figured out my friend lives in Lake Forest Illinoise and that is when me and my friend dropped out of the Lobby. Who knows if he was actually serious, but I'm just glad I didn't stick around to find out. Needless to say I stick to party chat from now on.

 

[smokehouse]

This kind of thing is rather unnerving. I would not be surprised if something like this would end up with people getting killed.

With police thinking they are going into a danger area and people who could be well armed and thinking they are being home invaded, I could see it getting very ugly. There have already been a few episodes where law enforcement has been killed using no knock entry and such, and several more than that where people in their homes who were killed.

It's bad enough when you just answer the door with a video game controller in your hand you get killed, if anyone remembers that from a while back. I really think the people doing this are committing acts of terrorism and should be treated as such.

Something like this is eventually going to cost someone their life...and it isn't going to be the police at fault. Some dude is going to think he having a break in...go for his gun and get shot all to hell. The cops aren't expecting a prank, he isn't expecting a police raid.

 

[Ninjainspandex]

Something like this is eventually going to cost someone their life...and it isn't going to be the police at fault. Some dude is going to think he having a break in...go for his gun and get shot all to hell. The cops aren't expecting a prank, he isn't expecting a police raid.

Already has, here is a story of a raid on a wrong house. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475

 

[lithy]

Any freedom or rights that's just given to you by the gov't, can just as easily be taken away by said gov't. The founding fathers had to earn those by beating the British.

Natural rights aren't given by a government, son.

 

[ForeverSublime]

What happened to sending a squad car out to just check if the threat is even real?

We don't know all the details.

 

[SNKorSWM]

Natural rights aren't given by a government, son.

You mean Death and Taxes? Those are the only natural rights out there.

 

[Lagduf]

Natural rights aren't given by a government, son.

I <3 you.

 

[galfordo]

All these kids are white, they have nothing to seriously worry about

The shit with "Kootra" could've easily gone horribly wrong. In that case some assholes had falsely reported an "active shooter" - in which case you know the cops were looking for a nutty ass white kid to blow into smithereens and become the town hero.

 

[StevenK]

I <3 you.

+1 for Lithy's superb point.

It's easy to forget that governments are just a construct of our own making. I can't imagine life without them - to be honest I don't think we would necessarly be better off, but they've certainly overstepped the boundaries of what they were initially set up for.

Take this for example, just today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28986271

So the UK has raised it's terror threat from "substantial" to "severe". Why would I give a shit about that? I'm not the UK, it won't affect me. I'm an individual who lives in the UK, that's very different.

I would prefer it if they gave an individual terror threat level, in fact I can do it for them right here - until recently it was "statistically zero", and it's just been upgraded to "still statistically zero".

But as a nation under apparent dire threat, they can now push through a few extra laws that will make life, for everyone, each of whom are individually under zero threat, a little bit more painful, annoying, and controlled.

 

[Wachenroder]

I've heard this term before but had no idea that it was something like this. This is so fucked up.

Seems like every generation that comes along is trying to bet bigger then the previous when it comes to pranks.

 

[StevenK]

On a moderately related note I've just had a google search return a list of results including this:

"In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org."

I'm not sure if this is common now but I've never noticed it before. Throw in the bizarre right to forget laws in Europe and it feels like we're seeing the beginning of the end for the freedom of the internet.

RIP nugget porn.

 

[hyper]

I've heard this term before but had no idea that it was something like this. This is so fucked up.

Seems like every generation that comes along is trying to bet bigger then the previous when it comes to pranks.

except calling an armed response team to raid your home isn't a prank, it's borderline attempted murder

 

[Wachenroder]

except calling an armed response team to raid your home isn't a prank, it's borderline attempted murder

Definitely. I'm sure they rationalize it as a harmless prank though.

 

[munchiaz]

This shit is so crazy. How is this a prank. hopefully these people get locked up for terrorist threats

 

[Dr Shroom]

On a moderately related note I've just had a google search return a list of results including this:

"In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org."

I'm not sure if this is common now but I've never noticed it before. Throw in the bizarre right to forget laws in Europe and it feels like we're seeing the beginning of the end for the freedom of the internet.

RIP nugget porn.

http://duckduckgo.com/

 

[Ninjainspandex]

except calling an armed response team to raid your home isn't a prank, it's borderline attempted murder

Perhaps if we catch any of these swatters we can treat them like the terrorists they are and send them to Guantanamo

 

[100proof]

http://duckduckgo.com/

Not clicking that link. Not clicking that link. Not clicking that link.

Seriously, fuck these little brats who think wasting taxpayer money to scare someone they don't like is funny. I hope they get raped in prison.