King of Fighters: Neo Geo vs. Dreamcast

[Zephryn]

I'm not talking in terms of rarity or value, but graphic, sound and gameplay quality. The Dreamcast is at least 8 times more powerful than NG, so that leads me to believe the games would play smoother on it, and have better sound, etc.

What do you guys think? Or even better, what do you know?

 

[Solidus Snake]

Please do us a favor and shut the hell up.

 

[JHendrix]

Both games play exactly the same, no differences.

As for graphics it's all a matter of preference. This is because the differences are so subtle or stupid that it really is just which one you'd rather look at. Hell half of the time you can't tell the difference.

I mean the biggest difference would be on KOF98 and 99 where they have 3D backgrounds. I mean whoopty do. The games play exactly the same, and that's almost all that matters.

Peace

JHendrix

 

[naitram]

Originally posted by Zephryn:
<strong>The Dreamcast is at least 8 times more powerful than NG, so that leads me to believe the games would play smoother on it, and have better sound, etc. </strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" /> Sounds like you're trying to start some shit here, but the DC and Neo aren't even close to being the same kind of system, so which one is more "powerful" is irrelevant. Go do some reading if you don't understand it.

My opinion is that even though the DC versions are good ports, they aren't perfect ports, and the AES versions are still better. Anyone who says the DC ports are just as good probably can't afford the AES cart.

I own a DC and I'll still spend $200 for the AES cart anyday. I'm an elitist bitch and I know it. <img src="graemlins/drool.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool]" />

 

[$hockwave]

i think the aes version of any game that is on the dc is better on the aes.the dc has better graphics in because it is a much newer system and the sound is the same imo but the gameplay is the big downfall imo the aes version of any kof and garou kicks the dc ass.okay i do not know if it is just me but the response time of playing a aes game or neo cd game version vs. the dc,the dc seems much slower in response and a slight pause before any specials.

 

[naitram]

Originally posted by $hockwave:
<strong>the dc has better graphics in because it is a much newer system</strong><hr></blockquote>

brilliant

 

[Zephryn]

First off, Solidus Snake, you don't have to follow me everywhere just to prove to me that you're an ass. I know already.
And power is irrelivant? How can you say that? Would KOF 2001 be as good on an NES? How about an Xbox3? I agree it's a direct port, but framerates are bumped up, sound is remastered, things are changed even if no one says so, to use the new systems power, even if only a little bit. Some one mentionned that the DC versions are ports of the NG games, and therefore the NG versions would likely be the superior ones, only because they're the originals, and I have to agree. Sloppy porting is sad, especially with such great SNK games. Or any other games mind you. So I guess my conclusion is that I'm still bent on picking up the cart versions of my favorite NG games, but for Pete's sake some of you are ignorant.

 

[neonut]

If you compare them on the same tv, you will notice that the characters on the neo are much lager than the dc.........NEONUT

 

[RATM]

The games won't run smoother because they were originally programmed on the MVS, that means that the developers had it programmed to run specifically on the MVS hardware.

 

[naitram]

Originally posted by Zephryn:
<strong>And power is irrelivant? How can you say that? Would KOF 2001 be as good on an NES? How about an Xbox3?

but for Pete's sake some of you are ignorant.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Too bad I didn't say "power is irrelevant". If you're going to slam what I said, at least get the quote right dickhead.

Obviously you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and you only started this thread to start shit. Take your system war ignorance to the war room. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

 

[Solidus Snake]

Originally posted by Zephryn:
<strong>First off, Solidus Snake, you don't have to follow me everywhere just to prove to me that you're an ass. I know already.
And power is irrelivant? How can you say that? Would KOF 2001 be as good on an NES? How about an Xbox3? I agree it's a direct port, but framerates are bumped up, sound is remastered, things are changed even if no one says so, to use the new systems power, even if only a little bit. Some one mentionned that the DC versions are ports of the NG games, and therefore the NG versions would likely be the superior ones, only because they're the originals, and I have to agree. Sloppy porting is sad, especially with such great SNK games. Or any other games mind you. So I guess my conclusion is that I'm still bent on picking up the cart versions of my favorite NG games, but for Pete's sake some of you are ignorant.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Edit: I am not even going to waste my time to stoop to Zephryn's level.

[ July 06, 2002: Message edited by: Solidus Snake ]</p>

 

[Solidus Snake]

Why don't you just ask people if 3D fighters are better than 2D? <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" />

 

[Solidus Snake]

Edit: My "dark" side has taken over, but something great happened to me so its gone. So I'll be the better man and apologize for my actions. Just remember to think through your questions first.

[ July 06, 2002: Message edited by: Solidus Snake ]</p>

 

[Tora Kouhi]

OK people this ain't the War Room

 

[Wolferaizer]

graphics -> DC
controls -> Neo
gameplay -> equal

game first release? -> Neo

ding ding ding!! DC wait 1 yr or 2 or never.
ding ding ding!! where's magician lord on DC??
ding ding ding!! its Sega (pronounced Suuucckkaa)

 

[eddicef]

Well, I have all versions of the DC KOF´s and Neo Geo KoF´s. (KoF´98 and KoF´99)

IMO the Neo Geo versions have a better atmosphere than the DC ones.

What I really don´t like about KoF Evo (DC) are the new 3D backgrounds. The 2D ones in KoF´99 (Neo Geo) look alot better IMO.

 

[Fran]

Originally posted by JHendrix:
<strong>Both games play exactly the same, no differences.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

look

you're pissing me off now

kof 98 aes and kof 98 dc are NOT the same

its not even a port

cos certain combos were removed

so they actually changed the original code or something like that

TRUST ME for fucks sake

i think i know enough about kof to say that

and oh,
3d bgs suck big time

 

[Fran]

Originally posted by Wolferaizer:
<strong>graphics -> DC
gameplay -> equal

)</strong><hr></blockquote>


come on now

<img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />

 

[Megatron X]

Originally posted by Fran:
<strong>
and oh,
3d bgs suck big time</strong><hr></blockquote>

Amen to that Fran.

 

[10 in 2010]

Originally posted by $hockwave:
<strong>i think the aes version of any game that is on the dc is better on the aes.the dc has better graphics in because it is a much newer system and the sound is the same imo but the gameplay is the big downfall imo the aes version of any kof and garou kicks the dc ass.okay i do not know if it is just me but the response time of playing a aes game or neo cd game version vs. the dc,the dc seems much slower in response and a slight pause before any specials.</strong><hr></blockquote>


" gameplay is the big downfall" ??? WTF?

those games play excelletly the arcade garou and dreamcast garou play exactly the same, you anti-port loser.

"the sound is the same" ???

why is it then the dreamcast version BGM is done with real instruments, and gives you a choice between the original BGM and the arrange BGM


i'm gald youve finally learned to put full stops in your posts though,jeez talk about run on sentances.

 

[Zephryn]

RATM, that's what I'm talking about.

 

[Zephryn]

And I don't see why you all have to bash me for asking a simple question that could have had a simple answer. Instead though you go about in your immature ways of swearing and insulting, saying I have no knowledge of videogames. I came to these boards expecting mature, intelligent people to talk videogames with, and I find a bunch of fanboy cavemen. I was really hoping for more. I'm gonna stick around just because of SilverAngel, she was very nice to me, didn't swear at me or call me stupid, and answered one of my other questions very well. You excuses for videogamers could learn a lot from her. Peace.

 

[Solidus Snake]

Just a fair warning before someone comes along and bashes you horribly. Remember that we are on a Neo site with people owning AES or MVS type systems. They hold their systems with high regards, favoring them more than most next gen systems. DC is probably the only acceptable next gen system. Power doesn't mean a thing if the game has no quality. You have to understand that although the DC is more powerful than the Neo, the ports are not as great as the original AES versions. Here you must treat the AES or MVS like a bible. Why come here and ask if DDR is better than KOF on a Neo site. Have you played any of the AES versions of KOF that were on DC? The AES version beats the DC by far. But isn't the DC more powerful? Yes, but due to programming of the DC many things had to be changed. I am not even up to the level as some of the long time members of this board. I have only been here for a year under my old account. So consider my bashing just a dent of some of the great memebers here can do. The question you just asked can be answered by just playing both versions of the game. Yes you will find some Neo fanboys here, but there are fanboys of everything.

 

[Zephryn]

You mentionned that the DC ports aren't as good as the AES or MVS versions because they're.....ports. That's what I've been saying, they were built for Neo Geo systems, not DC. And any port of any game generally isn't as good as it was on it's original system. I just thought maybe they'd made enhancements because of the DC's power. And the replies to my topic, although none of them say so, seem to sugest nothing was added, and infact the DC versions are different than the NG versions. So I'm happy. And don't you worry. I can hold my own against anyone.

 

[Takumaji]

Ah, is this still going on.

If we're talking about fun, it's totally and utterly irrelevant wether a game is a port, an original or whatever; if you enjoy it, it's good. Simple as that.

BUT

if we're talking about original gameplay, that is playing a game the way the developers wanted it, there's no way 'round the original stuff. You could also make a Swiss precision watch with a computer, some high-tech machinery and lotsa money, but it would not be the same as the handmade pieces of art.

Friggin' 3D backs don't do any good either. If gfx would really matter, most PC shit would be the crown of gaming. But it isn't - why do you think were games like Pong so fukn successful? Gameplay and fun. Original fun.