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Are you in a state where you can own one? I know where there's a sale.
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Try a CZ-85 Combat. No firing pin block, much smoother trigger than a 75B.
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Why not get the best of both worlds with a Krink? I'm sure there are kits out there still. Plenty of mod options and with a 9" barrel and side folding stock its pretty damn fierce.
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@Bio, nope - pretty sure I can't order an AK pistol anymore in CA online. I'll have to check the laws but I think I'd have to build one up from a kit.
@ Replica, I'm in California - no way I can get an SBR!
My friend has a Krink we built from a kit (in MO) - that thing is a beast. It's his only NFA weapon.
@ Replica, I'm in California - no way I can get an SBR!
My friend has a Krink we built from a kit (in MO) - that thing is a beast. It's his only NFA weapon.
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Ouch Cali... They ever get rid of the bs AR law having the fixed stock and mag?
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They still gotta have the "bullet button".
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Yeah…Illinois is bad but California is worse. I know I shouldn't let it get to me, but those laws really piss me off. They scream "if you insist on owning a gun, we're just going to fuck with you."
Fucking bullet button…give me a break.
I know they don't have to do it anymore…but the sight of one of these California legal ARs makes my blood boil every time:
The motherfucking nerve of politicians passing unconstitutional firearm laws…makes me sick...
Fucking bullet button…give me a break.
I know they don't have to do it anymore…but the sight of one of these California legal ARs makes my blood boil every time:
The motherfucking nerve of politicians passing unconstitutional firearm laws…makes me sick...
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sig brace?
http://www.atf.gov/sites/default/fi...ter_on_the_redesign_of_stabilizing_braces.pdf
I didn't even read it at all since I know I'm not affected, maybe someone needs to or should know though?
where I heard about some said they(atf?)changed their minds others said it just became clear it was being predominantly(or at least often enough to warrant action) misused.
good luck everybody.
edit:: maybe its not a big deal after all? the thread these links come from was making a big huff but then there was this http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/12/foghorn/calm-pistol-brace-ruling-hasnt-changed/
edit: I see now that I was late with this, just thought I'd mention it after finding it. sorry to be ''alarmist''.
http://www.atf.gov/sites/default/fi...ter_on_the_redesign_of_stabilizing_braces.pdf
I didn't even read it at all since I know I'm not affected, maybe someone needs to or should know though?
where I heard about some said they(atf?)changed their minds others said it just became clear it was being predominantly(or at least often enough to warrant action) misused.
good luck everybody.
edit:: maybe its not a big deal after all? the thread these links come from was making a big huff but then there was this http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/12/foghorn/calm-pistol-brace-ruling-hasnt-changed/
edit: I see now that I was late with this, just thought I'd mention it after finding it. sorry to be ''alarmist''.
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I'm still pretty convinced they are going to out right ban them sooner or later...and it's our fault (our being owners, makers).
And ocean of "can I do THIS with the brace?" "Can I do THAT with the brace" coupled with companies either making bogus braces or slapping a brace on firearms that clearly don't need one has pretty much fucked everyone. Where I can see the money grabbers trying to sneak bullshit items past the ATF...I simply cannot wrap my mind around morons who sent letters to the ATF asking if they can use the thing as a shoulder stock. What in the name of fuck did they expect? An "OK" from them?
For now...nothing has changed, it's still built intent and intent is a hard thing to judge. I would guess one just doesn't want to be caught in the act of shouldering the thing...so I'm guess the smart ones are taking down online videos or pics of themselves using it that way...the smart ones.
Personally...I sold mine and I'm done with the thing. Too much headache for me...
And ocean of "can I do THIS with the brace?" "Can I do THAT with the brace" coupled with companies either making bogus braces or slapping a brace on firearms that clearly don't need one has pretty much fucked everyone. Where I can see the money grabbers trying to sneak bullshit items past the ATF...I simply cannot wrap my mind around morons who sent letters to the ATF asking if they can use the thing as a shoulder stock. What in the name of fuck did they expect? An "OK" from them?
For now...nothing has changed, it's still built intent and intent is a hard thing to judge. I would guess one just doesn't want to be caught in the act of shouldering the thing...so I'm guess the smart ones are taking down online videos or pics of themselves using it that way...the smart ones.
Personally...I sold mine and I'm done with the thing. Too much headache for me...
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Well…I normally keep a firearm "on the radar" that I want to move to next. After diving into the whole SBR/Illinois mess and this SIG brace crap…pursuing that CZ Scorpion EVO + SIG brace combo seems pretty out for now. As a pistol, I think that Scorpion is pretty limp. Without the SIG brace, I really don't want to look into it.
So, I started thinking. At the moment I do not have a good long distance 1-200 yd rifle. I've alway had the M1A on my radar so I went yesterday and looked at them. With the 18" Scout running $1550, the SOCOM 16 running $1700 and the full length loaded running $1400…I decided it was a pass. By the time I added a good scope, I'd be well over $2K and I don't currently have any .308.
So…moving on…
I figured a good, bench rifle in .223 may be a good move. It's not going to be a 500yd tach driver…but truth be told, I don't even have a place to stretch out 500 yds.
So I looked at this:
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/tactical/centerfire-tactical/model-700-sps-tactical.aspx
It seems I can pick up one of these online for $579. For under $1200, I could add a nice Burris 4.5-14x42mm for $300 and a good mount. I'm guessing this setup would shoot better than I can…
Any thoughts on this?
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Another forum member turned me on to the CZ 527 American…that may also be another good choice...
So, I started thinking. At the moment I do not have a good long distance 1-200 yd rifle. I've alway had the M1A on my radar so I went yesterday and looked at them. With the 18" Scout running $1550, the SOCOM 16 running $1700 and the full length loaded running $1400…I decided it was a pass. By the time I added a good scope, I'd be well over $2K and I don't currently have any .308.
So…moving on…
I figured a good, bench rifle in .223 may be a good move. It's not going to be a 500yd tach driver…but truth be told, I don't even have a place to stretch out 500 yds.
So I looked at this:
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/tactical/centerfire-tactical/model-700-sps-tactical.aspx
It seems I can pick up one of these online for $579. For under $1200, I could add a nice Burris 4.5-14x42mm for $300 and a good mount. I'm guessing this setup would shoot better than I can…
Any thoughts on this?
*EDIT*
Another forum member turned me on to the CZ 527 American…that may also be another good choice...
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Well if you're only wanting to shoot out 200 years, an AR15 platform is pretty good for that. I shoot 600m with an M4 and M16 on a pretty regular basis using an M68 and ACOG (respectively) in good conditions. On irons you can hit 300 fine.
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I was going to be a smart ass and ask you to tell me more about this "AR15 platform"…but I won't.
I dove into the world of complete 20" AR uppers and the prices seem to be greater than or equal to the cost of a complete turnbolt rifle. To add to that, my AR has an adjustable stock which would have to be changed to something more stable for bench shooting…so tack on another $150-250 for the stock. So in the end, I feel the turnbolt would be much cheaper and offer better accuracy (they almost always do over a semi auto).
If the AR upper deal was cheaper…I may go this route, but it isn't. Having to swap between my 16" and the 20" upper doesn't seem to appealing so I know where that would go…yup, just building another AR. I'd land up plopping some $2K plus after the "itch" finally subsided.
Nah…I still think a turnbolt would be best...
I dove into the world of complete 20" AR uppers and the prices seem to be greater than or equal to the cost of a complete turnbolt rifle. To add to that, my AR has an adjustable stock which would have to be changed to something more stable for bench shooting…so tack on another $150-250 for the stock. So in the end, I feel the turnbolt would be much cheaper and offer better accuracy (they almost always do over a semi auto).
If the AR upper deal was cheaper…I may go this route, but it isn't. Having to swap between my 16" and the 20" upper doesn't seem to appealing so I know where that would go…yup, just building another AR. I'd land up plopping some $2K plus after the "itch" finally subsided.
Nah…I still think a turnbolt would be best...
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Kalashnikov rifles to made in USA
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I wonder if they have rights to make an SVD? I know SVD isn't an AK pattern or even a Kalashnikov design, but, I thought the parent company Kalashnikov Concern had the rights to their manufacture.
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I wonder if they have rights to make an SVD? I know SVD isn't an AK pattern or even a Kalashnikov design, but, I thought the parent company Kalashnikov Concern had the rights to their manufacture.
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Mossberg makes the MVP series of bolt guns.
The 5.56 uses AR15 mags & the .308 can use either M14 or SR25 mags.
http://www.mossberg.com/products/rifles/centerfire/mvp-series
The 5.56 uses AR15 mags & the .308 can use either M14 or SR25 mags.
http://www.mossberg.com/products/rifles/centerfire/mvp-series
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I wouldn't get my hopes up for that.
If we get anything unique from them I would suspect the "saiga 9".
While a dragunov would be great, they need their own specific manufacturing process, I don't think we would even see the .308 rifles.
The rest of the stuff KC makes could theoretically be built using the same machinery with minimal changes made for caliber.
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To each his own, man. I just have had the most experience with them and enjoy it a lot.
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Well...I gotta say..I did revisit the AR thing figuring I already have one. 100-150yds with a 16" HBAR should not be a big issue. I'm really thinking of just adding a QD scope mount to the rifle for 100yd shooting. So...to update this, I'm actually contemplaying the AR use thing again...
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Says 47s & Shotguns (likely a Saiga type). No mention of 74s or its variants....