2k2 Vice moves.......or any of these new supers..

[pyrokilla]

How are they done? Mabey I'll have to check a move list....I know the regular super, but what are these new supers ive seen .gifs of ? desperation moves or something?

 

[Takumaji]

Since I started using her new HSDM (db,qcf,uf,u,d+AC) as an extended anti-air, I can see what the designers were up to with that move, but I rarely use it because timing is evil with that last u,d+AC bit.

I keep it at doing a good ole' qcfx2+P from time to time, simple and effective.

 

[pyrokilla]

her new animations are lame eh?

 

[bokmeow]

This is maybe a little off topic, and I don't want to hijack your thread at all pyrokilla, but am I the only person who thinks some of these moves are lame the way they are pulled off? I mean like that one for K'9999, where you *ohmygod left right left right left right... hop back while doing it!* I look like a freak with spasm trying to pull that one off. It doesn't even seem like I can combo into some of these moves that have these ludicrous joystick commands plus gobs of buttons to push. I can accept Athena's since it's like doing Geese's Deadly Rave, but some of these... I hope they lose that garbage in the next King of Fighters.

 

[Takumaji]

pyrokilla: Vice's few new anim frames are nice if she isn't moving, but... ah well, one more of 2k2's flaws. Vice is still very usefull.

bokmeow: Some HSDMs are really hard to pull off, it's annoying if you nearly break your fingers while trying to pull it off and then see a HSDM like Seth's. I also hope that they get rid of this crap in the next KoF, it's a waste of ROM space.

 

[Kirk Foiden]

The funny part is that Vice's HSDM super is actually rather easy for me to pull off. It's actually reminiscent of an old SNK super (duck king?). But I definitely understand for some of the HSDMs. Heck, even one SDM seems almost unusable (Ryo). Fortunately, Ryo is fine with just his DMs. For the most part, I typically consider HSDMs as fan service. So I can understand that they include them in a fan-service Dreammatch like 2k2, but not always to practical uses. As long as I can get by without doing them, I don't feel the need to bother, unless I'm playing around.

Vice's, on the other hand, I'm just good with, so I actually am more likely to apply hers.

<small>[ May 14, 2003, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Kirk Foiden ]</small>

 

[Takumaji]

Kirk Foiden:
The funny part is that Vice's HSDM super is actually rather easy for me to pull off. It's actually reminiscent of an old SNK super (duck king?). But I definitely understand for some of the HSDMs. Heck, even one SDM seems almost unusable (Ryo). Fortunately, Ryo is fine with just his DMs. For the most part, I typically consider HSDMs as fan service. So I can understand that they include them in a fan-service Dreammatch like 2k2, but not always to practical uses. As long as I can get by without doing them, I don't feel the need to bother, unless I'm playing around.

Vice's, on the other hand, I'm just good with, so I actually am more likely to apply hers.

I wrote about the similarity of Vice's HSDM to Duck Kings super in FFS, and I also wrote that I could instantly pull it off, but that doesn't mean that I got it to connect at the very first try. Her HSDM is db,qcf,uf,u,d+AC, and IMO, it's best to jump-in at your opponent while he's jumping at you, do the db,qcf,uf while jumping and then complete the HSDM with the u,d+AC with a tiny bit of delay between the uf and the u. Hard to explain, but that's how I do it.

And yes, Ryo can live without his HSDM, that's the point IMO - any character is fine without them... HSDMs may be good for ppl watching the fight, but not for the player.